If you don't like black people over in the US, what the hell did you drag them there in chains for?
New Polish generation prefers black culture?
Hmmm! For some reason I cant recall where I ever dragged anybody over here in chains.
Lyzko
8 Aug 2011 #93
No more than a post-War German ever shoved a single Jew into an oven, the enlightened and sensitive still feel guilt about the sins of their fathers, not matter HOW long ago the crime was committed!
Lyzko, You asked my age yesterday just before our thread got messed up. Read this.
franek.webs.com
franek.webs.com
Hmmm! For some reason I cant recall where I ever dragged anybody over here in chains.
There's still people alive who went to segregated schools, segregated shops, who had to give their seat up to people on the bus with less melatonin in their skin cells and who were denied the right to vote in their own country. Whether you feel personally responsible or not, you are part of that.
Lyzko
8 Aug 2011 #96
I take back what I guessed. I was only a little surprised by your naivete, that's all.
There's still people alive who went to segregated schools, segregated shops, who had to give their seat up to people on the bus with less melatonin in their skin cells and who were denied the right to vote in their own country. Whether you feel personally responsible or not, you are part of that.
Yeah, Ok, Whatever
Lyzko
8 Aug 2011 #98
No, not "whatever"!!! That's a cop out, mister, I don't care how old you are!!!!
Who you are you to say that there no such thing as black culture? I dare you, I double dare you to stand in front of the Jewish community and say in front of them with a straight face that theres no such thing as Jewish culture (...).
Pretty much what I've been telling them ( cheesymac in particular ) all along.
Every time somebody discusses "black culture" there's always a person ( who usually has no clue whatsoever about the subject of the discussion ) that shows up and claims black culture equals the worst ideas presented in gangsta rap videos.
Simply dumbfounding. As I said - try that stunt with Italian Americans and tell them their culture amounts to Don Corleone, the mafia and not talking to the police --> they'll sue the pants off your ass.
No more than a post-War German ever shoved a single Jew into an oven,
Let's keep the oven jokes out of this one. I for one had ancestors who died in Auschwitz and these "jokes" are not funny.
London just got a taste of a mixed culture society yesterday..
Thugs will remain thugs regardless of the color of their skin.
DO YOU REALLY WANT YOUR COUNTRY TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU AND ONER RUN LIKE AMERICA IS WITH RAPES/GANG CRIME DRUGS AND SUCKING ALL THEY CAN OUT OF THE POLISH STATE.
Lay off the crackpipe.
Lyzko
8 Aug 2011 #100
"Jokes" Midas???!! Is English your first language or are you riding me here a bit? Or are you plain dense? LOL
No, not "whatever"!!! That's a cop out, mister, I don't care how old you are!!
LOL! I am not coping out.. But how can you talk to a guy like that. His mind is made up, and no one will change it..This is true with most Europeans.. They will have to learn for themselves.. I could care less what they do... I was merely sharing my view on the subject
PS Where are you from in the States?
Lyzko
8 Aug 2011 #102
New York and I'm still not convinced that a leopard can't change their spots...at least a little-:)
I marvel at your ability in speaking the Polish Language.. I can still manage to speak it but more or less in a honky style..
Foreigner4 12 | 1768
8 Aug 2011 #104
rnbdiva
You realize that simply because there is no "black culture" does not mean there is no jewish culture.
Jewish=religion almost inseparable (not indistinguishable though) from all that is Hebrew
Black=skin colour
Your comparison then is not accurate nor is it relevant.
Having said that, the less influence there is of ghetto thug culture on Polish culture, the better. What are the effects on society of this other than a disregard for speaking intelligently or even comprehensibly and a general dumbing down of youth?
Do you have anything quantitative to support such claims or is that just your opinion?
Who you are you to say that there no such thing as black culture? I dare you, I double dare you to stand in front of the Jewish community and say in front of them with a straight face that theres no such thing as Jewish culture.
You realize that simply because there is no "black culture" does not mean there is no jewish culture.
Jewish=religion almost inseparable (not indistinguishable though) from all that is Hebrew
Black=skin colour
Your comparison then is not accurate nor is it relevant.
Having said that, the less influence there is of ghetto thug culture on Polish culture, the better. What are the effects on society of this other than a disregard for speaking intelligently or even comprehensibly and a general dumbing down of youth?
No more than a post-War German ever shoved a single Jew into an oven, the enlightened and sensitive still feel guilt about the sins of their fathers, not matter HOW long ago the crime was committed!
Do you have anything quantitative to support such claims or is that just your opinion?
Lyzko
8 Aug 2011 #105
Yes, foreigner, I have logical evidence based upon common sense: How could a person born after 1945 have either known of first hand or committed a war crime, huh, smart guy????
Foreigner4 12 | 1768
8 Aug 2011 #106
So what you're saying is, it's your opinion. Thank you for the compliment by they way:)
Oh, I neither understand your question nor its relevance to the topic.
Oh, I neither understand your question nor its relevance to the topic.
Lyzko
8 Aug 2011 #107
In English, a fact is NOT the same as an opinion, neither in Polish or German either! The relevance is crystal clear as Nunczka raised the question of guilt feelings he claims not to feel towards disenfranchised African Americans. He never lugged a single slave over to the States any more than a post-War German ever killed a Jew. The latter though still bears the guilt of association.
"Jokes" Midas???!! Is English your first language or are you riding me here a bit? Or are you plain dense? LOL
Nope, I'm Jewish and I tried to politely suggest that you quit with the racist ****, you retarded ******.
Foreigner4 12 | 1768
8 Aug 2011 #109
What you've written makes no sense at all. You're simply using one of your opinions to validate another without providing anything quantitative.
You don't even know if his ancestors were involved in the slave trade to the new world, you're just making an assumption with, (surprise, surprise) nothing objective.
In English an opinion is NOT the same as a fact and you have provided precious few of the latter.
You don't even know if his ancestors were involved in the slave trade to the new world, you're just making an assumption with, (surprise, surprise) nothing objective.
In English an opinion is NOT the same as a fact and you have provided precious few of the latter.
Lyzko
8 Aug 2011 #110
How was I making a "joke", Midas (speaking now as one US-Jew to another!)?!
@Foreigner, you seem to have understood nothing of what I've posted. Should I have explained in Polish or German?-:)))
@Foreigner, you seem to have understood nothing of what I've posted. Should I have explained in Polish or German?-:)))
o what you're saying is, it's your opinion. Thank you for the compliment by they way:)
Oh, I neither understand your question nor its relevance to the topic.
Oh, I neither understand your question nor its relevance to the topic.
I for one can support Lyzko's claim. It just happened that in 1944,I served in Europe as an American GI.. On one occasion I had the experience to take part in liberating a Slave labor camp in Germany.. I personally fed a inmate one bean at a time, for he was so undernourished that he could not feed himself.. I never took the time to ask his nationality
Lyzko
8 Aug 2011 #112
many thanx, nunczka! I feel vilified-:))
Foreigner4 12 | 1768
8 Aug 2011 #113
@Foreigner, you seem to have understood nothing of what I've posted. Should I have explained in Polish or German?-:)))
The problem is you don't seem to understand what you're trying to say either.
nunczka, that's a heartwarming story, I don't really believe you though. I don't know a thing about you so you'll have to not take that as an insult but rather a comment on e-communication. Nonetheless, suppose it is true, in what way does that support Lyzko's claim and what is Lyzko's claim?
Lyzko
8 Aug 2011 #114
Foreigner, you've proven yourself here both a troll as well as a fool! What is your native tongue? If I misunderstood a foreigner's language, I'd at least have the courtesy to admit it (as long as they'd do the same!).
I'm not a US Jew, I'm primarily based in the UK.
"Shove a Jew into the oven", "oven-dodger", etc. - I find these extremely offensive. Most Jewish people I know do as well.
"Shove a Jew into the oven", "oven-dodger", etc. - I find these extremely offensive. Most Jewish people I know do as well.
nunczka, that's a heartwarming story, I don't really believe you though. I don't know a thing about you so you'll have to not take that as an insult but rather a comment on e-communication. Nonetheless, suppose it is true, in what way does that support Lyzko's claim and what is Lyzko's claim?
I have been through this before on PF.. I have no desire to try convincing you of my past.. You can take it or leave i could care less
Please get back to discussing if New Polish generation prefers black culture? Thanks.
Foreigner4 12 | 1768
8 Aug 2011 #118
Look, just try to stay on topic sunshine and let me worry about my troll status. Now what on earth does the second world war have to do with the slave trade to the new world?
In your opinion who is supposed to be feeling guilty regarding these events?
What is the point of this question which you asked me: How could a person born after 1945 have either known of first hand or committed a war crime, huh, smart guy????
How is this relevant to "Black Culture?" in Poland?
ok nunczka, i'm leaving it.
In your opinion who is supposed to be feeling guilty regarding these events?
What is the point of this question which you asked me: How could a person born after 1945 have either known of first hand or committed a war crime, huh, smart guy????
How is this relevant to "Black Culture?" in Poland?
ok nunczka, i'm leaving it.
Lyzko
8 Aug 2011 #119
Midas, my analogy is only as "offensive" as it is (MIS)taken to be. By stating comparisons, I'm clearly not being offensive. You merely took offense.
Des Essientes 7 | 1288
8 Aug 2011 #120
Look, just try to stay on topic
The topic being Polish youth's preference for black culture, which is not what you are arguing about at all you silly hypocrite.