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Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage.


Sikorawski
22 Jan 2019 #211
Dirk thinks that for something to be crime or gang infested it has to have a non ethnic or none white origin and that ghettos dont exist in Poland. I disagree. I think that any area full of gangs crime or drug dealing regardless of the ethnic makeup can be classified as a ghetto or hood or at the very least a bad neighborhood and plenty exist in Poland just less in Warsaw these days than other places he may not have been to.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
22 Jan 2019 #212
Ghettos? Do you have a problem with people living in particular neighbourhoods?

Foreigners who didn't build it, don't pay taxes, and have weird body odor? Yes.
jon357 74 | 22,060
22 Jan 2019 #213
Why do you think people in Britain don't pay taxes?
bolek_tusk 3 | 225
22 Jan 2019 #214
Some do, but.... if you run a cash business - taxi, fast food, drug dealer then no one knows how much you earn... and if you are on benefits and/or work cash in hand you don't pay tax.
jon357 74 | 22,060
22 Jan 2019 #215
Some do

Everyone has a tax liability, and both taxi firms and FMCGs like takeaway foods are monitored very tightly by HM Inland Revenue. Drug dealing brings in less cash than you'd expect and is far from specific to any one group in society. Benefits are obviously not taxable (and are increasingly very hard to receive in this environment of austerity). Cash in hand work is normal everywhere, particularly for construction jobs, and again not especially associated with any single part of our society.
bolek_tusk 3 | 225
22 Jan 2019 #216
Drug dealing brings in less cash than you'd expect and is far from specific to any one group in society.

You don't live in the real world!
jon357 74 | 22,060
22 Jan 2019 #217
An expert on this topic, are you?
bolek_tusk 3 | 225
22 Jan 2019 #218
I am an expert on what it feels like to live in a drug infested Pakistani ghetto.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,920
22 Jan 2019 #219
Come to Poland it's infested with us Polish and 6000 British residents to talk with, we need more people.
jon357 74 | 22,060
22 Jan 2019 #220
I am an expert on what it feels like to live in a drug infested Pakistani ghetto.

That's quite funny. If you're so unhappy and afraid of what you perceive as your reality, what are you doing about it?
bolek_tusk 3 | 225
22 Jan 2019 #221
I'm planning my exit strategy... looking for accommodation in Gdansk.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
22 Jan 2019 #222
Yet obviously one of them was German, so what does it make her?

Yes, that's what I meant. The further you go back in time, the more ethnicity loses its meaning because people were constantly mixing. If we ignore the so-called Ahnenschwund (also known as implex), the number of ancestors grows exponentially with every generation you go back. After 20 generations you already have a maximum of 1048575 - 1 ancestors. Where does that leave room for ethnicity?
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,862
22 Jan 2019 #223
After 20 generations you already have a maximum of 1048575 ancestors.

And at least those of us with blue eyes share definitely the same ancestor, the first with that mutation, no matter if we identify today as Germans or Poles...heh:)
Miloslaw 19 | 4,993
22 Jan 2019 #224
Drug dealing brings in less cash than you'd expect

A very naive statement Jon.
jon357 74 | 22,060
22 Jan 2019 #225
Look at the numbers. Have you read Freakonomics?
Miloslaw 19 | 4,993
22 Jan 2019 #226
Why would I want to read something with a title as stupid as "Freakonomics"?
No,I'm just much more streetwise than you are.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
22 Jan 2019 #227
Why do you think people in Britain don't pay taxes?

Foreign welfare ghetto bums don't. They suck taxes in and eject urine and manure. That's all they do, all day long.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,585
23 Jan 2019 #228
taxi, fast food, drug dealer then no one knows how much you earn... and if you are on benefits and/or work cash in hand you don't pay tax

Same thing in the U.S. That's how so many Mexicans live well. They claim a bunch of benefits - food stamps, disability, tanf, section 8, etc. so they get a ton of free stuff - food, apartments, bills paid for, etc. while the father works a cash construction, landscaping or restaurant type job and mother works as a maid, nanny, etc. or in some cases a legit job not for the money but to take advantage of beiung able to buy health insurance for her whole family through work. So even though maybe the husband makes only $30-$40k a year, the wife $15-$20k, combined with all the benefits they receive they have a 100k a year type of existence. They don't flaunt their wealth though theyll live in small homes and drive average cars but their bank accounts are stuffed.

The somalis caught on too - they'll live in a house worth half a mil, have a range rover parked in the driveway yet receive government assistance. They also register friends kids as their own claiming that in their culture a friends child is as much as that persons own. Additionally, even though many speak English they will request a translator all the time oftentimes making sure a friend or relative is hired as that translator. Happens quite often in the court systems in Dearborn.
jon357 74 | 22,060
23 Jan 2019 #229
Why would I want to read something with a title as stupid as "Freakonomics"?

Very worth reading, and a serious book. A bestseller for a reason; I'm surprised you haven't heard of it. It's used in university economics classes now, and there's a whole series of them. In the first book (or the second), the authors look at why so many people sell drugs despite the low returns and the inherent risks in crime. I recommend it, just as I use it in a limited way with 2nd year and 3rd year undergraduates.

No,I'm just much more streetwise than you are.

Somehow I doubt that. It's best not to make too many assumptions about the offline history of people you're speaking to online. There might be a lot of surprises...
Miloslaw 19 | 4,993
23 Jan 2019 #230
My searches reveal that he is mainly talking about Crack dealers.
Not a hugely popular drug in England.
Dope,Coke and some pills are the most popular here now,and dope fluids for vaping are really catching on.
I can tell you that people dealing this stuff are making good money.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,585
23 Jan 2019 #231
Wtf you talking about low returns.Just about every dealer makes at least double returns with distrubutors and large scale import/export make several thousand percent returns. A kilo of pure coke costs 1-2k in s america. That same kilo can be turned into 2 and still be decent and will sell for 30k to 50k a piece depending on region. Even more with opiates - a kilo of fentanyl costs 3k from china. By the time its cut, blended and bagged out a person can make $1 mil. Not exactly small returns. Even a low level street dealer will easily clear $100 to $300 a day obviously tax free whifh is more than the average us salary.
jon357 74 | 22,060
23 Jan 2019 #232
large scale import/export

Who's talking about the 1% that import things and then sell on a wholesale?

fentanyl

Not a European vice.

Most dealers don't make much at all. Certainly not £300 a day, or even a week.

I think we can say that your appraisal of that trade is about as reliable as the other rubbish you write

My searches reveal

Best to read the book rather than just looking on the Internet.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,993
23 Jan 2019 #233
No need,it's obviously crap.
jon357 74 | 22,060
23 Jan 2019 #234
That's certainly an interesting review, especially from an individual who hasn't actually read what they're commenting on. You didn't vote for brexit by any chance?
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,585
23 Jan 2019 #235
Obviously you know very little on this topic, just like the others you comment on. I grew up in the hood where people dealt all day long starting as early as 6 am. Most street dealers makr around 100 to 300 usd a day in the western world and thats a low estimate. A dude whos got a lot of customers and is serving cars up and down the street all day can make thousands. Certain corners in chicago nyc la etc make 10k a day plus. Even a fairly small scale grow in a basement can easily bring in 20k 40k plus a month. Most street dealers buy in ounce quantity and sell by grams and the prices are such that each person at the end of the chain doubles there money. Or in the case of runners they keep $30 from every $100.

If someone isnt making 100 to 300 a day selling drugs they might as wrll get a job. People go into selling for one reason - it pays better than a 9-5 a person with little to no education can get.

Second, the rate of opiate ise is high in numerous european countries i.e. uk, germany, spain, much of e europe and in poland it use to be very high up until amphetamines and chinese exported bath salts and such took over the market. Due to the low cost of fentanyl most heroin sold is either straight fentanyl or heroin mixed with fentanyl.
jon357 74 | 22,060
24 Jan 2019 #236
Obviously you know very little on this topic

Rather a lot, even.

people dealt all day long starting as early as 6 am

Not in Europe, and certainly not in Poland.

most heroin sold is either straight fentanyl or heroin mixed with fentanyl.

Again, not in Europe, and certainly not in Poland.

But hey, you believe whatever you want to believe.
pawian 224 | 24,479
24 Jun 2020 #237
I am not worry about Poland's future (-:

Nothing in this world is given for ever. PiS too over in 2015 and everything changed.


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