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Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage.


Ironside 53 | 12,421
19 Feb 2010 #151
Well, it means you didn't understand a word I was saying.
marqoz - | 195
19 Feb 2010 #152
Go look out the front door genius. I am not your secretary.

As you didn't want to check your deep observations about Polish irresponsible indebtedness against some statistic sources, so it was me to do it.

It wasn't so easy as I thought. But I succeeded, partly however.
According to data from 2 banks:
Poles spend 12% of their income for handling their debts, while Britons 25-30%.

It looks like 2 times less in Poland. However it could mean even lesser debt since Polish interest rates are a bit higher.
bullfrog 6 | 602
19 Feb 2010 #153
I also like a nationwide sales tax

That's called VAT in Europe
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
19 Feb 2010 #154
They always tell me how the roads and buildings are poor and how they wanna leave because its so bad over there.

Maybe you're not too aware, but anyone can leave Poland if they want. There's only two countries out of 30 in which Poles can't work freely - Germany and Austria. Why do they stay if it's so bad?

If you don't want to be Polish, then formally renounce any Polish citizenship that you might have and change your last name. Job done.
skysoulmate 14 | 1,294
20 Feb 2010 #155
That's called VAT in Europe

Well, I'm probably wrong but I thought a nationwide sales tax only applies to the final product/customer whereas VAT is charged each time the product is being sold to the next customer?

Not sure about this of course but I do like the idea of flat tax on income where zero deductions would be allowed (to get rid of 95% of the IRS agents!!!) and a nationwide tax to get those who get paid "under the table" (illegal aliens).

There's only two countries out of 30 in which Poles can't work freely - Germany and Austria...

How come? I wasn't aware of that fact.
Wroclaw Boy
20 Feb 2010 #156
But as of now I am not too proud of being Polish and its bothering me and I don't like it.

You just have to understand more about the countries heritage, where its come from and the reasons for the current situation.

Try to focus on the positives.

It is getting better, theres a long way to go but Poland will get there in the end.
qusseck
19 Jan 2019 #157
There are 1000's of reasons why to be proud to be Polish. Just make some effort and find it. Speaking the way you are is because of polish soldiers as well.

Polish soldiers fought for this country as well. None fought for Poland.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,886
19 Jan 2019 #158
If you are not proud of at least some of your Polish heritage then there must be something wrong with you.
Seek urgent medical help.
dolnoslask 6 | 2,935
19 Jan 2019 #159
If you are not proud of at least some of your Polish heritage

seeing as he posted this eight years ago he might have found his path already.
Intermarium 11 | 64
20 Jan 2019 #161
Just think about what it's like for a German living under the Merkel Regime. That's tough.

The current Polish government seems like one of the better governments in Europe. They're doing a good job keeping the immigrants out. One thing that could be improved is stopping the coal burning. Some parts of Poland have appalling air quality.
jon357 74 | 22,011
20 Jan 2019 #162
living under the Merkel Regime. That's tough.

No it isn't. How many years has she been Kanzlerin now?
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
20 Jan 2019 #163
Just think about what it's like for a German living under the Merkel Regime.

I did and concluded that it can't be any worse than living under the regime of that Marxist Muslim, America-hating racist, lying pos Obongo. Or with the stupid Americans who would happily make him president for life.
Lyzko 45 | 9,405
20 Jan 2019 #164
Merkel's egregious mishandling of the migrant issue is undoubtedly one of the chief causes for her abrupt exit from politics.

Although her heart was clearly in the right place in trying, however wrongheadedly, to make amends for a shameful NS-past, she fumbled the ball at the

ten-yard line and let the other team win the point:-)
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
20 Jan 2019 #165
Merkel's egregious mishandling of the migrant issue...

Mishandling? Did Hitler "mishandle" Jews? Did the USSR "mishandle" Katyn?
Hers was an act of treason and high crime against Germany and the Germans.
Intermarium 11 | 64
20 Jan 2019 #166
Completely agree. I was referring to Germany being the worst of current national governments.

Although I'd probably concede that Sweden is even worse.

The OP should be proud to be Polish and to have a government that protects the Polish people from degeneracy.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
20 Jan 2019 #167
Everybody, including the Swedes, should be proud. And green with envy watching what men with balls do before they are castrated into eunuchs that the Swedes have become.

As I wrote before, my fear is that the Polish resistance to the WE insanity is just one anti-Polish EU vote away.
Lyzko 45 | 9,405
20 Jan 2019 #168
Over-"liberalization" is to be sure problematic, people. However, is the converse any better? We need more Centrist and less partisan leadership.....BADLY!
Intermarium 11 | 64
20 Jan 2019 #169
@Rich Mazur
Could you expand on what you mean by being just one anti-Polish EU vote away?
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
20 Jan 2019 #170
I am so glad you asked.
The EU globalist cabal could vote to give Poland an ultimatum: raise refugee welfare to match Germany's or kiss the billions we send to Poland every year good bye.

That would be the end of Poland as we know it and love it, because, most likely, Poland would fold.

In fact, they could even offer Poland additional funds to cover the additional expenses to knock the argument out of Poland's hands that Poland just does not have the money for the refugee garbage to be treated as well as it is treated in Germany.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,886
20 Jan 2019 #171
Luckily for Poland,very few "refugees" will want to go there.
Even Italy and France are not good enough for them FFS!
No,they want The UK,Germany or Sweden and maybe NL or other Scandinavian countries if their first choices fail.
But they are not even considering eastern europe.
Intermarium 11 | 64
20 Jan 2019 #172
My understanding is that a unanimous vote of all other EU members would be necessary to impose sanctions on a member country. Poland and Hungary have each others' backs. Most of the EU's former communist members and Italy and Austria may offer resistance too.

One other question for Rich Mazur, which is related to the OP's question... What is the likelihood that you see of Poland's internal politics creating a situation in the near future that opens the floodgates for third-world immigration?
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
20 Jan 2019 #174
My understanding is that a unanimous vote of all other EU members would be necessary to impose sanctions on a member country.

You would so correct but for the fact that it would take a clique of Polish traitors who just happen to have the power to vote yes because they would be so richly rewarded with EU pensions and well-paying jobs for their loved ones and their friends.

Why, do you think, our Democrats are destroying the US with their hostility to anything that would stop that Latino sewer from flooding the country?

What is the likelihood

As I know the Poles and their love of Poland the way it is, the likelihood is low. At the same time, everybody has his price and free money is addictive. Think Obongo's free phones. Plus intimidation and shame as a weapon used to disarm. Why do Swedes just look on when their women are being raped?

The globalists know it and will move when their clones have the power in Warsaw.
Ironside 53 | 12,421
20 Jan 2019 #175
None.

Its already happening.
Ironside 53 | 12,421
21 Jan 2019 #177
Gov. is talking to India and Pakistan to bring in some workers from those countries, they are also preparing a law that would give them right to bring in their families. So that is a start.

Anyhow, it is not a question of the 3th world immigrants although it bring the question of different cultures and Muslim but all the above wouldn't mattered if not for the fact that the gov is gearing everything to being a process of opening the doors for a mass immigration. That is the crux of the matter as everywhere mass migration/immigration caused problems.

It is not something that can be reversed.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
21 Jan 2019 #178
Gov. is talking to India and Pakistan to bring in some workers from those countries,

And they will do it gradually. Death of the white culture by a million cuts...
Intermarium 11 | 64
21 Jan 2019 #179
On other posts I noticed the issue of Indian workers come up, and it seemed like the consensus was that most of them aren't interested in a long-term stay in Poland. They have a skill and would rather be making more in Germany or the UK (or go back to India).

This alone doesn't mean the death of Poland, as long as it's not being used as a way to slowly make the Poles accustomed to accepting immigrants with the aim of later introducing mass welfare immigration.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,801
21 Jan 2019 #180
Of course it will...these Indian/Pakistanis/Filipinos are the polish new Turks.

Badly needed foreign workers to build the polish "Wirtschaftswunder"....the same misconceptions (they will leave again + we will stay the same)....the same outcome...multi-kulti (in one generation or two).

There is really only alternative for the polish gov, to close the borders but with that they will need to sell their people a stagnating economy, the end of the rise to a european power, the fall back and loss of many achievements (wages, welfare because to expensive etc.). Poland will get poorer again, Poles might leave again...

Frankly it won't happen...so future multi-kulti it is. Poland the island of white in a "brown" see is an illusion which will get destroyed by realpolitik.


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