Gun control in Poland: should Polish people be allowed to own guns?

Don't be a twat all your life. Are you repairing cars in your kitchen at the weekend?


Where I live nobody does and my nice suburb of Warsaw is pretty well crime free.


You live in the boondocks not a major city.

Compare gun crime rates between Warsaw and Miami.

Don't make fatal mistakes like this one. From one of your favourite sources:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13183027/ex-college-football-star-shoots-mother-dead-intruder.html

Isn't this one of the main reasons you are in support of guns?

The American obsession with guns has always confounded me.
The USA is one of the most violent countries in the West..... and they wonder why........

Looking back is a waste of time unless you are designing a new country. I am not. I have to deal with reality as it is today. Quoting:

... some 2.5 million burglaries still happen every year in America. Of those, 1.65 million are considered home invasions. Many of these burglaries occur during the day at a rate of every 30 seconds.

If you lived here, how would you protect your family and yourself? Please do NOT tell me what you wouldn't. I want specific, legal, and practical steps to minimize a bad outcome.

Second question: Would you pull the trigger when an intruder breaks the door to your upstairs bedroom?

1. If you lived here...
2. In the UK...

Assume that you have a legal gun at both locations and that only you and your wife are in the house and she is with you.

Compare the Black White ratio between Warsaw and Miami.

Thats why I don't live in Miami stupid.
You Eurps have been told a hundred times now that the gun crime in America happens in ten of the biggest cities in America that are all Liberal Democratic.

Exclude those ten cities and America is as safe as Europe.
We all carry guns and there is no gun violence in 95% land mass wise in America.
Why do you refuse to comprehend that.
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These numbers represent the totals of murders in 2023!!!! hahahahahahahaha...Eat shyt, Euros...

Trust me...they do have guns in NH, Vermont, and Wyoming...all in white hands...All legal...all registered...never used to murder because it's Saturday ...

New Hampshire 15
Vermont10
Wyoming16

We've explained this to them a hundred times already however they are brain dead to the facts.
Liberals can't debate the facts.

I am still waiting for the first carjacking by a white guy in Chicago. We do have whites in Chicago or did they all leave by now?

Those are high numbers for tiny populations

But anyway we don't care what you do in Wyoming - people there can vote for what they want

Here nobody votes for guns. And it's not about being left or right - Orban, Kaczynski, Salvini are all hard right and all against guns

Actually gun violence rates in the US are very, very low if you control for two factors.

Urban drug gangs

Elderly white male suicide (aka the Smith & Wesson Retirement Plan)

Highest gun ownership is found among rural whites but gun violence among them is extremely low.

Urban gangs (overwhelmingly black and latino) that cater to middle and upper class twits that need an illegal high to get through the day have sky high rates. The real problem there is the

And guns are the preferred method of suicide among older white men (officially suicides are counted as gun violence/crime).

So gun debates in the US are carried out by stealth.... liberals can't say "We want guns out of the hands of violent minorites that we subsidize with our drug habits!" so they attack peaceful and law abiding rural whites instead.

Don't you also need to control for large scale gun massacres at schools, concerts, parades, sports events etc, for accidental shooting of burglars who turn out to be your mum, for femicides and many more examples

Those are not suicides and nothing to do with hipsters buying cannabis

Not really, those have always been around they just get more publicity now (except for Las Vegas which everyone is supposed to forget)....

There are also 'party shootings' a black (and to a lesser degree latino) phenomenon.... there's a party and someone gets mad for a really stupid bonehead reason, leaves, gets a gun, comes back and then randomly shoots into the crowd.... (hose and pose, it's called)

steve sailer noted that you can generally tell the race of a shooter by the casualty count... if the wounded greatly outnumber fatalities then the shooter is almost certainly black, if the number of fatalities is large then it's a white or East Asian shooter)

liberals hate that but facts is facts

Yes but these are the facts we rarely have to confront or excuse here in Europe because we don't let people carry automatic weapons - it doesn't matter how good their aim is.

Yes, gun culture is specific to the US (and not going away anytime soon) but there's no real need for it in Europe.... different places, different norms....

It is a God given right to protect yourself from deadly threats by the bad guy.
Why would I bring a knife to a gun fight ?
If the bad guy has a gun then I should be able to have one too as a responsible law-abiding citizen.
I never go to a big Black city without my huckleberry strapped on.

So what is your advice for Americans, Euros?

I want 5 legal and practical steps, not moaning or history lessons.

Don't forget that we have that document aka the Constitution.


What God gives, the king can take away from the bootlickers.

In Europe, you are supposed to retreat to the roof after he refuses to have a cup of coffee with you. Wife and kids? Fvck wife and kids as long as you are safe and follow the laws.

Man, do I hate Euros...It's hard to describe...

There's so much of it.

In Europe we prefer to walk the streets at night without having to wonder if someone is hiding a gun.

Drop that "prefer" crap...

In Europe, nobody gives a fvck what you prefer.. You are told what you prefer and you have no recourse.
We can sue and win. That's what happened in Illinois, the last state to allow concealed guns because the fed court told the state to do it or else...

So what is your advice for us, Mr. Prefer?

We do, and we choose our governments accordingly.


And you can sue and lose.

You keep your gun problem over there. We prefer our way over here.

You can vote and lose since these actors you elect are under no obligation to follow what they lied to you about to get your vote.

Many Americans are suckers. Euro suckers operate at Santa level...where reasoning is viewed as child abuse...

So what is your advice for us, Santa?

You elect those. Reagan for example.


Then they get voted out. That is going to happen this year.


Slightly less than half of them, certainly.

However in Europe, we don't want your gun problems.

...and nothing of substance changes...Would you want me to quote the definition of insanity?


You are at it again...Nobody gives a shyt what you want.

Did Germans, Brits, and Swedes want the hordes of smelly human garbage by the millions? Before, like a perfect brainless bootlicker, you say yes, find a link to a referendum or a poll. Please do not insult me again with that BS about voting. I voted in "communist" Poland, too, for party hacks.

At least then I knew it was a theatre for the obedient and the stupid. Today, you are both.

So what is your advice for us, Mr. Vote?

Where you are maybe. In Europe it does.


They do, since in Europe the overwhelming majority want the same thing. No guns.

Hey, Euroholes, answer this question or shut the fvck up...

So what is your advice for us?

No history lessons, morons...

No guns, no russians.

@Alien
We're happy with neither!

Do whatever the hell you want. Just don't try to push it on us.

lets look at it from house buying point of view, after guns are gone US will be a prime location for immigrants again!

Nobody cares what you do about guns. We are ecstatic that you don't have home invasions, rapes, and murders.

Since tanks and artillery are 100% useless here, would you want the US to stop making them?

Since Poles don't want guns, why do Polish cops carry them? To help the elderly across the street or for another reason?

They have a reason, right? What is that reason?