Piorun
2 Mar 2013
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
Look: moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/gajos.html
Look: moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/gajos.html
Piorun
1 Mar 2013
Language / Polish slang phrases - most popular. [606]
I was wrong, in this context (You good boy/girl proposco zatstraniez) I think it’s (po prostu zasraniec) which means; (po prostu = simply) ( zasraniec = a rug rat), so whatever the first part is - of which I'm not too sure about, the second is definitely (zasraniec). Of course that’s not a literal translation but that’s the expression Americans use when they talk about toddlers and that’s exactly what zasraniec is in this case. In case it is my first thought after all than (no prosze, zasraniec = look, a rug rat).
Do you know what it means?? =)
I was wrong, in this context (You good boy/girl proposco zatstraniez) I think it’s (po prostu zasraniec) which means; (po prostu = simply) ( zasraniec = a rug rat), so whatever the first part is - of which I'm not too sure about, the second is definitely (zasraniec). Of course that’s not a literal translation but that’s the expression Americans use when they talk about toddlers and that’s exactly what zasraniec is in this case. In case it is my first thought after all than (no prosze, zasraniec = look, a rug rat).
Piorun
28 Feb 2013
Language / Polish slang phrases - most popular. [606]
Don't know what the first word is but the second one is (zasraniec) :)
I think the phrase is (no prosze, zasraniec)
proposco zatstraniez
Don't know what the first word is but the second one is (zasraniec) :)
I think the phrase is (no prosze, zasraniec)
Piorun
29 Jan 2013
Language / POLISH 18 - 30 years old know MUCH BETTER ENGLISH language than their own native language! [102]
Perhaps he thinks Poland was part of the old British Empire. Speaking English better than our own native language is wishful thinking on his part, though many do speak better English than the native speakers of English.
Polish people are good in English??
Perhaps he thinks Poland was part of the old British Empire. Speaking English better than our own native language is wishful thinking on his part, though many do speak better English than the native speakers of English.
Piorun
25 Jan 2013
Language / Dupa - what a beautiful Polish word [103]
Is it really vulgar?
Dupa used with a suitable preposition is the answer to a rhetorical questions that begins with; How, Where, Where to, Where from. Answer: Do dupy, w dupie, z dupu. For example, How was it? Where were you? 'Where you’re from?' same as stating none of your damn business in English, rude perhaps but far from being vulgar. (Zabrał się do czegoś od dupy strony) simply means that the approach is inappropriate, hence the wrong end “as in “ass end” dupa here functions as a synonym. (Dupa) is sometimes also used when making a comparison, a lot of stuff is worthless thus (do dupy warte) serves as a universal benchmark for consumer goods or service performed. You can also protect your own or someone elses ass, saying (Chronę własną dupe) or its direct English translation (I covered my own ass) once again confirms that sometimes it’s necessary to state the obvious and the translation you pick be it “I covered my own ass” or “I protected myself” is up to you depending on how much of a prude you are.
It all depends on your perspective and if you know all definitions of the word in question. There’s more to a language we choose to use to convey the massage then meets the eye. Not having a grasp on the foreign language and the subtle differance in meaning it can represent when translating it to your own language instead of using a direct translation makes all the diffrance in the world and only makes you think of it as immoral or vulgar. FFS man, don’t be afraid to engage in verbal intercourse once in a while, my bad I said intercourse. LOL
Żyć czy rzyć? - oto jest pytanie!
For those who are less sensitive about the language used and with a sense of humor.
Wiersz o Dupie:
Dupa ludzkość raju pozbawiła,
Dupa Adama do jabłka skusiła,
Dupa płodzi, Dupa rodzi,
Dupa nigdy nie zaszkodzi,
Dupa największą kopalnią pieniędzy,
Dupa kur.. wyprowadza z nędzy,
Dupa nęci, Dupa swędzi,
Dupa też wspaniale pierdzi,
Z tego powstał taki morał:
Człowiek się rodzi z Dupy wychodzi,
Człowiek się żeni na Dupę wchodzi,
Człowiek umiera na Dupie leży,
Wszystko od DUPY na świecie zależy!!
Uneducated, immoral, unintelligent Poles say that word. It is considered vulgar.
Is it really vulgar?
Dupa used with a suitable preposition is the answer to a rhetorical questions that begins with; How, Where, Where to, Where from. Answer: Do dupy, w dupie, z dupu. For example, How was it? Where were you? 'Where you’re from?' same as stating none of your damn business in English, rude perhaps but far from being vulgar. (Zabrał się do czegoś od dupy strony) simply means that the approach is inappropriate, hence the wrong end “as in “ass end” dupa here functions as a synonym. (Dupa) is sometimes also used when making a comparison, a lot of stuff is worthless thus (do dupy warte) serves as a universal benchmark for consumer goods or service performed. You can also protect your own or someone elses ass, saying (Chronę własną dupe) or its direct English translation (I covered my own ass) once again confirms that sometimes it’s necessary to state the obvious and the translation you pick be it “I covered my own ass” or “I protected myself” is up to you depending on how much of a prude you are.
It all depends on your perspective and if you know all definitions of the word in question. There’s more to a language we choose to use to convey the massage then meets the eye. Not having a grasp on the foreign language and the subtle differance in meaning it can represent when translating it to your own language instead of using a direct translation makes all the diffrance in the world and only makes you think of it as immoral or vulgar. FFS man, don’t be afraid to engage in verbal intercourse once in a while, my bad I said intercourse. LOL
Żyć czy rzyć? - oto jest pytanie!
For those who are less sensitive about the language used and with a sense of humor.
Wiersz o Dupie:
Dupa ludzkość raju pozbawiła,
Dupa Adama do jabłka skusiła,
Dupa płodzi, Dupa rodzi,
Dupa nigdy nie zaszkodzi,
Dupa największą kopalnią pieniędzy,
Dupa kur.. wyprowadza z nędzy,
Dupa nęci, Dupa swędzi,
Dupa też wspaniale pierdzi,
Z tego powstał taki morał:
Człowiek się rodzi z Dupy wychodzi,
Człowiek się żeni na Dupę wchodzi,
Człowiek umiera na Dupie leży,
Wszystko od DUPY na świecie zależy!!
Piorun
9 Jan 2013
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]
If a certain set of features can be attributed to a particular European country then here's an interesting site for all experts on this forum.
pmsol3.wordpress.com/2011/04/07/world-of-averages-europeave
Composites of pictures of males and females to come up with an average look for a given country. Personally I don't see it but who knows maybe some of you do.
Edit: Someone beat me to it though this one is only for Europe.
If a certain set of features can be attributed to a particular European country then here's an interesting site for all experts on this forum.
pmsol3.wordpress.com/2011/04/07/world-of-averages-europeave
Composites of pictures of males and females to come up with an average look for a given country. Personally I don't see it but who knows maybe some of you do.
Edit: Someone beat me to it though this one is only for Europe.
Piorun
6 Jan 2013
History / Life in communist Poland - personal relations [468]
Don't really know what to quite make of this; are you serious or being sarcastic? While it is true that a few of the high ranking officials do take the advantage of their position to get things for free from the state no matter what system they happen to work for, even if it's capitalist system where their position allows them to live on a taxpayer dime. For the rest of us cash is king, hard work, credit and layaway programs a necessary burden to put up with in order to achieve certain standard of living even during the time of communism. Nothing is free in life, no matter what system you happen to live under, do you honestly think that state give you housing, cars, TV's, appliances for free?
You make it sound surreal and utopian like as if it was seen from the perspective of the privileged elites who believed in the system and were lucky enough to be given all of those things, as if. I'm afraid that the reality was quite different and the money itself meant a great deal back then, without it one would simply stagnate and never be able to batter themselves. For instance even in the 70's (the so called boom) without resorting to bribery and black market for all sorts of consumer goods were only cash is acceptable form of payment, one would never be able to improve his standard of living, build a house, etc. Cash was king, the building materials in short supply, so whatever you bought from private enterprise like bricks, lumber, cinder blocks etc., (I know hard to believe but they did exist) you supplemented the rest through bribes and through the contacts you had at state run supplier where you bought stuff from under the counter so to speak and paid cash, not to mention the bribes you had to pay to bypass government bureaucracy to get the building permit, water, electric gas telephone line on your property. In cities some flats were also bought by people. Often the building project took well over 5 years and one had to borrow heavily to do this, not from the state run banking system mind you but family, friends, neighbors.
The cars, TV's, appliances were not free either, those were out of reach for most people on the salary they had and they bought those items on installments or layaway programs. Cars, if you were lucky enough to work abroad or had family members residing there were often bought for cash in hard currency to be picked up at home skipping the waiting list all together, hard currency costumers had that privilege for a simple reason, hard currency was in short supply and was needed by the state to pay off the interest on the loans Gierek made to achieve this short lived prosperity but it's the easement of restrictions, human inventive nature as well as black market and great deal of corruption in the government circles that allowed for all this prosperity to flourish for a short while. Stores like Pewex flourished paddling their goods for hard currency were dollar was the king. People often crossed the border to buy items not available on domestic market where they were much cheaper too, either for themselves or resale on the black market to pay off the debts they incurred building their house. You did everything you could think of to pay those debts off.
One does wonder indeed how such system could collapse; life is hard enough as it is without government interference in their daily life, imposed restriction and freedom of movement don't help either. Reality of life differed greatly from the utopian picture of life under communism some of you paint here.
Money did not matter much.
Don't really know what to quite make of this; are you serious or being sarcastic? While it is true that a few of the high ranking officials do take the advantage of their position to get things for free from the state no matter what system they happen to work for, even if it's capitalist system where their position allows them to live on a taxpayer dime. For the rest of us cash is king, hard work, credit and layaway programs a necessary burden to put up with in order to achieve certain standard of living even during the time of communism. Nothing is free in life, no matter what system you happen to live under, do you honestly think that state give you housing, cars, TV's, appliances for free?
You make it sound surreal and utopian like as if it was seen from the perspective of the privileged elites who believed in the system and were lucky enough to be given all of those things, as if. I'm afraid that the reality was quite different and the money itself meant a great deal back then, without it one would simply stagnate and never be able to batter themselves. For instance even in the 70's (the so called boom) without resorting to bribery and black market for all sorts of consumer goods were only cash is acceptable form of payment, one would never be able to improve his standard of living, build a house, etc. Cash was king, the building materials in short supply, so whatever you bought from private enterprise like bricks, lumber, cinder blocks etc., (I know hard to believe but they did exist) you supplemented the rest through bribes and through the contacts you had at state run supplier where you bought stuff from under the counter so to speak and paid cash, not to mention the bribes you had to pay to bypass government bureaucracy to get the building permit, water, electric gas telephone line on your property. In cities some flats were also bought by people. Often the building project took well over 5 years and one had to borrow heavily to do this, not from the state run banking system mind you but family, friends, neighbors.
The cars, TV's, appliances were not free either, those were out of reach for most people on the salary they had and they bought those items on installments or layaway programs. Cars, if you were lucky enough to work abroad or had family members residing there were often bought for cash in hard currency to be picked up at home skipping the waiting list all together, hard currency costumers had that privilege for a simple reason, hard currency was in short supply and was needed by the state to pay off the interest on the loans Gierek made to achieve this short lived prosperity but it's the easement of restrictions, human inventive nature as well as black market and great deal of corruption in the government circles that allowed for all this prosperity to flourish for a short while. Stores like Pewex flourished paddling their goods for hard currency were dollar was the king. People often crossed the border to buy items not available on domestic market where they were much cheaper too, either for themselves or resale on the black market to pay off the debts they incurred building their house. You did everything you could think of to pay those debts off.
One does wonder indeed how such system could collapse; life is hard enough as it is without government interference in their daily life, imposed restriction and freedom of movement don't help either. Reality of life differed greatly from the utopian picture of life under communism some of you paint here.
Piorun
24 Sep 2012
Language / Foreigners speaking Polish - examples. [71]
Cool, at the end of the video the expression on his face is priceless. He's so proud of himself a genuine sense of accomplishment.
In my opinion the only way to this correctly is to try, no matter how badly you might sound to others. When the girl behind the counter tried speaking english he didn't even flinch but insisted on the conversation to be carried on in polish, more power to him. The only way to learn is to practice what you have learned thus far, nothing wrong with that, I think he did OK. I'm sure the shop attendants found this situation a bit amusing afterwards and might have cracked a few jokes after he left the shop, but he did catch them off guard.
Even the Old Blue Eyes himself sang in Polish, at the end of this clip you'll hear him having a go at Polish.
youtu.be/fqBT9PO8T4Q
The only way to do this correctly is to have a laugh with the two behind the counter otherwise he can't but appear silly
Cool, at the end of the video the expression on his face is priceless. He's so proud of himself a genuine sense of accomplishment.
In my opinion the only way to this correctly is to try, no matter how badly you might sound to others. When the girl behind the counter tried speaking english he didn't even flinch but insisted on the conversation to be carried on in polish, more power to him. The only way to learn is to practice what you have learned thus far, nothing wrong with that, I think he did OK. I'm sure the shop attendants found this situation a bit amusing afterwards and might have cracked a few jokes after he left the shop, but he did catch them off guard.
Even the Old Blue Eyes himself sang in Polish, at the end of this clip you'll hear him having a go at Polish.
youtu.be/fqBT9PO8T4Q
Piorun
17 Sep 2012
History / Polish military uniforms [49]
Cool, I thought you have somehow rigged it to work with modern set of batteries. Keeping it original, very cool.
Interesting, perhaps my memory is failing me but growing up on this side of the Iron Curtain I never heard of reenactors participation or anyone actually sporting polish uniform beside the veterans and scouts in those days, the newspaper articles of that time neglected to mention that. The pictures that accompanied those articles usually depicted local Polonia, few of the veterans that is or scouts participating in those memorial events but not reenactors themselves, in any case it would be nice if you shared a story or two with us that would complement the pictures you post, perhaps we will all learn something new.
Still works a treat but the 12 volt batteries are hard to find :)
Cool, I thought you have somehow rigged it to work with modern set of batteries. Keeping it original, very cool.
Hard to explain,always had an interest in that period in history,was involved in recreated honour guards etc for memorial events in the UK and western europe for years and always had an interest in Polish forces ,
Interesting, perhaps my memory is failing me but growing up on this side of the Iron Curtain I never heard of reenactors participation or anyone actually sporting polish uniform beside the veterans and scouts in those days, the newspaper articles of that time neglected to mention that. The pictures that accompanied those articles usually depicted local Polonia, few of the veterans that is or scouts participating in those memorial events but not reenactors themselves, in any case it would be nice if you shared a story or two with us that would complement the pictures you post, perhaps we will all learn something new.
Piorun
16 Sep 2012
History / Polish military uniforms [49]
I remember that torch; my grandparents’ still had few of them around in a good working order when I was a kid. The potato masher is a nice touch to complete the look but I’m still partial to the Strzelec Podhalański uniform.
I remember that torch; my grandparents’ still had few of them around in a good working order when I was a kid. The potato masher is a nice touch to complete the look but I’m still partial to the Strzelec Podhalański uniform.
Piorun
20 Aug 2012
UK, Ireland / Hitler gagdets in Britain and Poland? [24]
Yet they managed to assemble a hell of a team to accomplish their objective. They didn't do all that by themselves you know. Ribbentrop-Molotov pact comes to mind, team players or not? I'm really torn on this issue, help me out here please! Enlighten me.
PS We're kinda getting off topic here. I'd rather discuss Hitlers' gadgets (now that would be interesting) although a tea-shirt I would classify as memorabilia myself even if it's portrayed as a joke. There are nutters out there who do take it seriously.
they weren't exactly team workers
Yet they managed to assemble a hell of a team to accomplish their objective. They didn't do all that by themselves you know. Ribbentrop-Molotov pact comes to mind, team players or not? I'm really torn on this issue, help me out here please! Enlighten me.
PS We're kinda getting off topic here. I'd rather discuss Hitlers' gadgets (now that would be interesting) although a tea-shirt I would classify as memorabilia myself even if it's portrayed as a joke. There are nutters out there who do take it seriously.
Piorun
20 Aug 2012
UK, Ireland / Hitler gagdets in Britain and Poland? [24]
Ever heard of teamwork? I'm sure he'll find a way to screw them over at the end but for time being?
Ever heard of teamwork? I'm sure he'll find a way to screw them over at the end but for time being?
Piorun
20 Aug 2012
UK, Ireland / Hitler gagdets in Britain and Poland? [24]
I wouldn't be so sure, reincarnated to do his bidding, even the devil is not foolish enough to waste good talent.
I wouldn't be so sure, reincarnated to do his bidding, even the devil is not foolish enough to waste good talent.
Piorun
4 Aug 2012
News / Does Polish hotel have right to turn down Americans and Israelis? [73]
Read Canada Immigration Forum, you'll see it's more common than you think; the border guards are gods in their mind as well as the law and can overturn legally issued visa on a whim, depending on the mood they are in at the moment. I'm sure that after reading this you'll find out that these overstay visa myths are just that a mere accusation by the BP officer is enough to be deemed so and flagged in the system as so. If there's any consolation for those that had a bad experience I hear the Canadians are wising up and turn away more and more Americans at the border, a simple DUI case from the 80's does the trick to deny the entry. I'm sure the southern border is at least a 1000 times worst alienating a continent and a half south of that border.
Here you are arguing that those are some isolated cases yet ***** and moan about a single Hotel in some obscure southern town in Poland posting a sign that offends you? Get a life and smell the coffee, things are not as rosy as you think with your own affairs . As I've said before; you reap what you sow. Karma most certainly is a *****, it will take some time but sooner or later it will all catch up with you. You will be treated the same as you treat others, end of story.
Read Canada Immigration Forum, you'll see it's more common than you think; the border guards are gods in their mind as well as the law and can overturn legally issued visa on a whim, depending on the mood they are in at the moment. I'm sure that after reading this you'll find out that these overstay visa myths are just that a mere accusation by the BP officer is enough to be deemed so and flagged in the system as so. If there's any consolation for those that had a bad experience I hear the Canadians are wising up and turn away more and more Americans at the border, a simple DUI case from the 80's does the trick to deny the entry. I'm sure the southern border is at least a 1000 times worst alienating a continent and a half south of that border.
Here you are arguing that those are some isolated cases yet ***** and moan about a single Hotel in some obscure southern town in Poland posting a sign that offends you? Get a life and smell the coffee, things are not as rosy as you think with your own affairs . As I've said before; you reap what you sow. Karma most certainly is a *****, it will take some time but sooner or later it will all catch up with you. You will be treated the same as you treat others, end of story.
Piorun
3 Aug 2012
News / Does Polish hotel have right to turn down Americans and Israelis? [73]
Look who’s crying, even the junk food stands in US refused the service to anyone not ordering in English, having a funny accent or being bold enough to ask for “French fries” Geno's Steaks, Hallo! Signs “We Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone” are everywhere; restaurants, hotels motels etc. One of the legitimate reasons for a restaurant to refuse service in US is when the patrons come in just before closing time or when the kitchen is closed (a case in Krakow) yet they ***** and moan about it when it happens to them. Patrons who are unreasonably rowdy or causing trouble, that may overfill capacity if let in, lacking adequate hygiene, accompanied by large groups of non-customers looking to sit in etc can and do get kicked out of any Hotel, Motel or Restaurant in the US yet expect to be served while doing all of the above destroying the property in the process while in a foreign country claiming discrimination. What can I say; your reputation precedes you hence the sign.
That’s because they never had a chance to see the Polish passport with a valid US visa to do just that. Do you know ha many Poles every year are stopped and sent back on the next flight home after obtaining a visa in the US consulate for which they pay a hell a lot of the money only to be turned back at a border because some border guard does not like the passport of the legit visa holder? If that’s not a case of obvious discrimination then I have no idea what is. What goes around comes around; keep at it, soon your reputation will be beyond repair. Sad but true.
Look who’s crying, even the junk food stands in US refused the service to anyone not ordering in English, having a funny accent or being bold enough to ask for “French fries” Geno's Steaks, Hallo! Signs “We Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone” are everywhere; restaurants, hotels motels etc. One of the legitimate reasons for a restaurant to refuse service in US is when the patrons come in just before closing time or when the kitchen is closed (a case in Krakow) yet they ***** and moan about it when it happens to them. Patrons who are unreasonably rowdy or causing trouble, that may overfill capacity if let in, lacking adequate hygiene, accompanied by large groups of non-customers looking to sit in etc can and do get kicked out of any Hotel, Motel or Restaurant in the US yet expect to be served while doing all of the above destroying the property in the process while in a foreign country claiming discrimination. What can I say; your reputation precedes you hence the sign.
I've never heard of American hotels refusing Poles.
That’s because they never had a chance to see the Polish passport with a valid US visa to do just that. Do you know ha many Poles every year are stopped and sent back on the next flight home after obtaining a visa in the US consulate for which they pay a hell a lot of the money only to be turned back at a border because some border guard does not like the passport of the legit visa holder? If that’s not a case of obvious discrimination then I have no idea what is. What goes around comes around; keep at it, soon your reputation will be beyond repair. Sad but true.
Piorun
26 Jul 2012
Genealogy / Piasta relatives from Gibalka, Pajka from Ostroleka [14]
Why would you assume it's put backwards? Ostrołęka is the county as for "Kibalka" the only thing that comes to mind is (Kibałka - proper spelling btw) but that's a surname. Perhaps there is a small village by that name in that area or there might have been one at one point in time. Anyway good luck with your search and never veer off course that the paper trail sets for you as that will definitely set you on a wild goose chase.
I'm assuming that county/country were put backwards. However, I haven't had much luck in locating information on Kibalka,
Why would you assume it's put backwards? Ostrołęka is the county as for "Kibalka" the only thing that comes to mind is (Kibałka - proper spelling btw) but that's a surname. Perhaps there is a small village by that name in that area or there might have been one at one point in time. Anyway good luck with your search and never veer off course that the paper trail sets for you as that will definitely set you on a wild goose chase.
Piorun
20 Jul 2012
Language / Foreigners speaking Polish - examples. [71]
Paul Wesley speaks polish. Not quite a foreigner, both of his parents are from Poland but he was born in US.
youtu.be/dHibyoYBRKQ
Paul Wesley speaks polish. Not quite a foreigner, both of his parents are from Poland but he was born in US.
youtu.be/dHibyoYBRKQ
Piorun
12 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [196]
Because it’s fun, and a good stress release, besides I have to practice my sarcasm somewhere, otherwise I’ll turn into another dull and boring Englishman if I’ll ever decide to go there.
That’s right; you just declare victory to go around that problem, ever since Vietnam. You don’t run, you withdraw. Iraq and Afghanistan, soon, ring a bell? All signs point in that direction, call it a victory without accomplishing any of the objectives pointed out to justify the incursion in the first place. Oh! Wait there were none, just a personal vendetta. With the thirst for revenge quenched, you’ll still leave without accomplishing jack, the women of Afghanistan will still were burka even though you made a big deal of it, as if you were to liberate them. Like it or not that’s the American way, another example of making life miserable for others. At least have a decency to state a real reason for all that crap, no one would do anything about it anyhow except perhaps for the American taxpayer who has to pay dearly to turn to rubble that which was the rubble in the first place.
Agree; make those rich Yanks pay hundreds for the visa application, deny it to 80% of them or so, (whatever the percentage is these days, just to be fair) and keep the money anyway, cool sounds like a plan to me, that's what Americans do. What’s good for the goose………….. Oh and having some halfwit Customs officer put some of them on the next flight back on a whim, just because he had a bad day despite the fact that the visa was granted. Loss of time, money and no chance to see your loved ones, who cares? Not to mention some of the insulting and demeaning question that would be asked on the visa application copied and paste right out of American application of course, so there’s no bi***ing and moaning about some kind of discrimination. Seems only fair.
Wow; What arrogance, knowing that you still managed to **** those Serbs off. You’re in trouble, they won’t be as forgiving as we seem to be. Kosovo is theirs and dear to them yet once more you give away something that does not belong to you.
Sure is, it’s called Bush doctrine.
why bother then
Because it’s fun, and a good stress release, besides I have to practice my sarcasm somewhere, otherwise I’ll turn into another dull and boring Englishman if I’ll ever decide to go there.
I don't recall much running for the hills as of late.
That’s right; you just declare victory to go around that problem, ever since Vietnam. You don’t run, you withdraw. Iraq and Afghanistan, soon, ring a bell? All signs point in that direction, call it a victory without accomplishing any of the objectives pointed out to justify the incursion in the first place. Oh! Wait there were none, just a personal vendetta. With the thirst for revenge quenched, you’ll still leave without accomplishing jack, the women of Afghanistan will still were burka even though you made a big deal of it, as if you were to liberate them. Like it or not that’s the American way, another example of making life miserable for others. At least have a decency to state a real reason for all that crap, no one would do anything about it anyhow except perhaps for the American taxpayer who has to pay dearly to turn to rubble that which was the rubble in the first place.
That wouldn't be a problem, seems only fair. I mean, Poland obviously appreciates dollars more than the US appreciates Poles that come over and don't return.
Agree; make those rich Yanks pay hundreds for the visa application, deny it to 80% of them or so, (whatever the percentage is these days, just to be fair) and keep the money anyway, cool sounds like a plan to me, that's what Americans do. What’s good for the goose………….. Oh and having some halfwit Customs officer put some of them on the next flight back on a whim, just because he had a bad day despite the fact that the visa was granted. Loss of time, money and no chance to see your loved ones, who cares? Not to mention some of the insulting and demeaning question that would be asked on the visa application copied and paste right out of American application of course, so there’s no bi***ing and moaning about some kind of discrimination. Seems only fair.
The Yugoslavians didn't roll over after the war.
Wow; What arrogance, knowing that you still managed to **** those Serbs off. You’re in trouble, they won’t be as forgiving as we seem to be. Kosovo is theirs and dear to them yet once more you give away something that does not belong to you.
there's a word for that I think.
Sure is, it’s called Bush doctrine.
Piorun
12 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [196]
Even an elementary student can. One can't have an honest discussion with you though.
Leave it to Harry to twist the things around, I'll have to admit you're one persistent SOB.
What's the point? Like I said, on this forum and with you? I remember when you presented some photograph pointing to it as evidence of Poles sailing the other way. LOL what a joke. Yet another example of lesson learned, never get into serious discussion with Harry, he'll bring you down to his level. Grow up, you're much smarter than you present yourself to be. Some day you'll have stomach ulcers from all that excitement caused by the hatred you harbor for anything Polish. Just a friendly advice.
So you mean you can not point out the ways in which Britain did not keep the commitments laid out in the Agreement of Mutual Assistance between the United Kingdom and Poland. OK.
Even an elementary student can. One can't have an honest discussion with you though.
Leave it to Harry to twist the things around, I'll have to admit you're one persistent SOB.
So let's hear those facts.
What's the point? Like I said, on this forum and with you? I remember when you presented some photograph pointing to it as evidence of Poles sailing the other way. LOL what a joke. Yet another example of lesson learned, never get into serious discussion with Harry, he'll bring you down to his level. Grow up, you're much smarter than you present yourself to be. Some day you'll have stomach ulcers from all that excitement caused by the hatred you harbor for anything Polish. Just a friendly advice.
Piorun
12 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [196]
What would be the point in that? We should just agree that we have different point of view on the subject and no argument can sway us either way. I just don’t appreciate a blank accusation you make, lengthily discussion would be nice and a breathe of fresh air sadly some of us are not mature enough to do just that. This forum is not for such conversation, most of the time it’s just one big p***ing contest.
Otherwise it wouldn’t be a PF as we know it.
If you truly studied history you would know that there’s no right or wrong answers, just a point of view backed up by facts. Even though we can point to the same facts does not mean we interpret them the same way. It’s just a different point of view which always turns into one big pissing contest on this forum anyway. To have an honest discussion about history one has to go somewhere else, a place more mature than PF, which I do quiet often.
Thanks for the insult Harry, once again you Rock. Poland has the capabilities and know how it’s just not nurtured by the government, perhaps someday.
perhaps you could be so kind as to point out the ways in which it did not.
What would be the point in that? We should just agree that we have different point of view on the subject and no argument can sway us either way. I just don’t appreciate a blank accusation you make, lengthily discussion would be nice and a breathe of fresh air sadly some of us are not mature enough to do just that. This forum is not for such conversation, most of the time it’s just one big p***ing contest.
so instead start with the personal insults
Otherwise it wouldn’t be a PF as we know it.
Clearly you do not, given that you still lie about your history
If you truly studied history you would know that there’s no right or wrong answers, just a point of view backed up by facts. Even though we can point to the same facts does not mean we interpret them the same way. It’s just a different point of view which always turns into one big pissing contest on this forum anyway. To have an honest discussion about history one has to go somewhere else, a place more mature than PF, which I do quiet often.
Thanks for the best laugh of the day!
Thanks for the insult Harry, once again you Rock. Poland has the capabilities and know how it’s just not nurtured by the government, perhaps someday.
Piorun
12 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [196]
True, but if you ask me Poland should build their own .
True, but if you ask me Poland should build their own .
Piorun
12 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [196]
That’s because no one can convince anyone of anything, you’ll have to do some research on your own and draw your own conclusion. My bad you did without reading.
Wow! What a BS. Not much to convince a feeble mind.
We do, you just don’t like what you hear.
Don’t you worry about that, lesson well learned.
Funny how you Poles are so ready to shout about Britain betraying Poland but you never ever go into detail about what exactly Britain did that was a betrayal of Poland.
That’s because no one can convince anyone of anything, you’ll have to do some research on your own and draw your own conclusion. My bad you did without reading.
Wow! What a betrayal!
Wow! What a BS. Not much to convince a feeble mind.
if they don't recognise the mistakes they made in their history, they'll repeat those same mistakes again.
We do, you just don’t like what you hear.
As I said, not learning from their history.
Don’t you worry about that, lesson well learned.
Piorun
12 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [196]
Our leadership still lives in LA LA Land, brown nosing as usual.
Well not much faith in Europeans either, since you asked.
Russians don’t do a good job on renovating theirs as the April tragedy shows.
Same should be applied to Americans but sadly the p**** in charge are just that. Tit forTat if you ask me.
Everything to please the guys across the ocean?
Our leadership still lives in LA LA Land, brown nosing as usual.
but oh - they are European
Well not much faith in Europeans either, since you asked.
LOT having to buying Boeing planes at any cost
Russians don’t do a good job on renovating theirs as the April tragedy shows.
Visa restrictions canceled?
Same should be applied to Americans but sadly the p**** in charge are just that. Tit forTat if you ask me.
Piorun
12 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [196]
Precisely, just an obligation which dose not mean a damn, when **** hits the fan you’ll run for the hills as usual. I do not put to much faith in that. Lesson learned.
Tito another Hero of mine,:) he did not give a **** about Americans and Russians alike, good for him.
Talking about beating that drum, perhaps you should reread some of your comments. It’s you and Harry that constantly beats that drum but the rhythm is not there.
Now there is an obligation.
Precisely, just an obligation which dose not mean a damn, when **** hits the fan you’ll run for the hills as usual. I do not put to much faith in that. Lesson learned.
I don't usually hear Yugoslavians whining about being sold out at Yalta
Tito another Hero of mine,:) he did not give a **** about Americans and Russians alike, good for him.
In fact, the only country that beats that drum over and over is Poland.
Talking about beating that drum, perhaps you should reread some of your comments. It’s you and Harry that constantly beats that drum but the rhythm is not there.
Piorun
12 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [196]
Like I said but-out. No thanks to you.
It still does not interest you, yet you still play the same game.
A little bit of Chinese style leadership and Poland would still be Communist to this day.
Like I said but-out. No thanks to you.
What happened in Poland after the war didn't interest the US too much
It still does not interest you, yet you still play the same game.
Piorun
12 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [196]
So but out of the affairs’ of others.
There’s nothing wrong with the way Poles fought , proud of it as a matter of fact and one more thing, don’t boast that Reagan happen to make the Soviet empire collapse. One speech “Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall” did not do it. Btw he forgot to say please or did he?
it's your country, you take care of it.
So but out of the affairs’ of others.
You should have fought harder.
There’s nothing wrong with the way Poles fought , proud of it as a matter of fact and one more thing, don’t boast that Reagan happen to make the Soviet empire collapse. One speech “Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall” did not do it. Btw he forgot to say please or did he?
Piorun
12 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [196]
Agreed. Yanks should have kept that in mind before selling out half of Europe to Russians. You just don’t give away something that does not belong to you. Just a reminder so you don’t make the same mistake again.
Hence he’s my Hero. ;) Nice monument, his name will live forever.
US didn't owe Poland a thing.
Agreed. Yanks should have kept that in mind before selling out half of Europe to Russians. You just don’t give away something that does not belong to you. Just a reminder so you don’t make the same mistake again.
he was an enemy of Germany
Hence he’s my Hero. ;) Nice monument, his name will live forever.
Piorun
12 Aug 2010
History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [196]
WTF? If there’s one lesson history thought us recently is the betrayal of Poland by Britain to which you object loudly whenever some Pole reminds you. I think that yet another reminder is in order so we don’t forget.
You have a distorted view of Napoleon, personally my Hero. :)
No need to explain, we knows who you are.
Forgot Yalta already? That honor is reserved for Britain together with its ally.
Yalta!!!!!!
Same reminder to a Yank Yalta!!!!!!
it stops Poles from learning from the mistakes in Polish history
WTF? If there’s one lesson history thought us recently is the betrayal of Poland by Britain to which you object loudly whenever some Pole reminds you. I think that yet another reminder is in order so we don’t forget.
Napoleon
You have a distorted view of Napoleon, personally my Hero. :)
I'm neither English nor a nationalist.
No need to explain, we knows who you are.
Poland's betrayal of Ukraine was one of the most disgraceful betrayals of an ally by a European nation in modern times.
Forgot Yalta already? That honor is reserved for Britain together with its ally.
Why not learn just a little tiny bit?
Yalta!!!!!!
What's a shame is that Poland sold out its allies.
Same reminder to a Yank Yalta!!!!!!
Piorun
10 Jul 2010
Life / SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH SOCIETY [297]
People get it strait, there are no gifts and no one gives Poland a battery of Patriot missiles so you have nothing to ***** about, you should be glad Poland lets the Americans play with their toys in our sandbox. Read the news carefully first contingent of American troops with their toys that arrived in Poland at the end of May is back at their base in Kaiserslautern Germany with their precious toys intact I might add so the only thing American taxpayers pays for is a very expansive field trip for their boys, I suppose they need a holiday once in a while and some fresh air. Now Poland hosts a second contingent from the same base and yes they also brought their toys with them. In a month’s time they’ll be back home at their base where they belong and let me assure you that like a vigilant mother Uncle Sam will make sure that none of the toys are left behind in the sand box when their kids are done playing. Those are just training exercises and if you have a problem paying for summer camp, complain to your congressman but don’t delude yourself that you’re giving something away.
Oh, wait... do the gifts come with US troops?
People get it strait, there are no gifts and no one gives Poland a battery of Patriot missiles so you have nothing to ***** about, you should be glad Poland lets the Americans play with their toys in our sandbox. Read the news carefully first contingent of American troops with their toys that arrived in Poland at the end of May is back at their base in Kaiserslautern Germany with their precious toys intact I might add so the only thing American taxpayers pays for is a very expansive field trip for their boys, I suppose they need a holiday once in a while and some fresh air. Now Poland hosts a second contingent from the same base and yes they also brought their toys with them. In a month’s time they’ll be back home at their base where they belong and let me assure you that like a vigilant mother Uncle Sam will make sure that none of the toys are left behind in the sand box when their kids are done playing. Those are just training exercises and if you have a problem paying for summer camp, complain to your congressman but don’t delude yourself that you’re giving something away.
Piorun
8 Jul 2010
Life / SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH SOCIETY [297]
I do try my lady.
Of course not, have you ever seen a thief giving something away for free?, but I will make an exception in your case if you sign up.
Sounding rather quintessentially English there, old boy!
I do try my lady.
Do you provide a popcorn voucher with the on-line trolling course?
Of course not, have you ever seen a thief giving something away for free?, but I will make an exception in your case if you sign up.