History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

@Lyzko
To the point of Swedes thinking they always been nice and peaceful. Which seemed to be a new level of self deception I have never seen before, totally blind to their past. It borders on total ridiculousness.

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

@Lyzko
Loyalty has a lot to say in group mentality, in Poland it's specifically tied to ones willingness to defend Poland militarily. During the Swedish deluge, a group of pacifists opposed fighting the Swedes and were considered traitors to Poland and henceforth banished in to exile. They brought later on the tradition of tolerance onward to U.S.A. Where a majority Protestant country had several other religious denominations, the choice was either civil war over it or tolerating the presence without agreeing to their dogmatic position.

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

@Lyzko


Here is a link if you are interested to know more,

Yes you are right, as you surely know Poland had tradition of tolerance (how it looked like differed in volume throughout history) so intermingling between faiths was normal. Very similar to the U.S with aspect of multiculturalism. It's very "unnormal" how Poland is now today, compared to a very mixed society through most of Polish history

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

@Lyzko
They managed that perfectly fine, except with the Polish right wing. Cause it was deemed to live according to ones religious belief, trouble is that if a Hebrew is to live according to his religious belief he can't be part of the Polish nation. Unless he became Catholic, one can't be part of two different Israeli nations at the same time.

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [853]


I am cool, just don't make stuff up. Or I might start telling here on the forum that Ukrainian politicians aren't the only ones who one tried to poison.

Political rivalry is fine, but don't overstep certain boundaries. I detest murder, political assassinations belong in that category.

It's just hard to know the truth regarding Smolensk, as there obviously people trying to take out both the twins, behind the scenes.

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [853]

@pawian
And your provocations only prove you to be an provocateur.

Got any other claims with which to infuriate people? Your lack of emotions regarding Polish matters mean that your quite adept at handling emotions or that you have none left for Poland. Which is it? Cause as you see from reactions by those on the right of you politically, most assume one of them

Travel / Photos from Poland [258]

@Alien
Thank you

Travel / Photos from Poland [258]

@Alien
You mean the German officer in the Wehrmacht during World War Two, that tried to assassinate Hitler when it was too late and then tried to arrest SS-members from reacting to his group of German officers coup D'etat, which didn't bear fruit as Hitler survived the assassination attempt? Then Hitler-sons in the Wehrmacht still loyal to him turned on the coup attempters, from trying to sign a peace treaty with the western allies and continue the war with the Soviet Union?

Heard of the guy, he was linked to the Prussian aristocracy (Jünckers) if I am not mistaken. He believed in the true Germany, not the third reich. It was a rather late attempt to save face, to avoid another false accusation of "stabbing" Germany in the back. Which was a myth after ww1 and a lie which the Jünckers gladly supported as it shifted the entire German elites responsibility and that of their Kaiser for the war on to "the Jews". Which Germany as a nation was blamed, quite wrongly as Germany despite having certain democratical tools within it's country was still a Monarchy (non-elective too).

The German public had no say in exchanging their leader before 1918. What happened after 1918 however is another story, which from a modern day perspective is quite an abomination. Germany as a people/nation/it's elites/army/journalists were not ready for such a drastic democratical change.

One only needs to compare it to Poland post-1989 turning from a one party state into a modern democratical republic with an multi party parliament. So far, there haven't been any "Führer" in Poland post 1989 and people trying to brand Kaczyński as one is quite ridiculous. If anyone get's even close to it, it's Piłsudski. Only difference is that he succeeded with his coup d'etat while Hitler failed with his by force.

Ironically, Hitler was able to represent Germany and it's people better then Piłsudski representing Poland and Poles. In formal terms according to rules of democracy. How that worked out we all know very well, still thinking about Poland it still stands the test of time

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

Either way, bringing U.S.A in to this no matter who owns what company. Federalists in the EU would use to their advantage in the debate, so long as problems arise and the topic of possibly excluding members (however how unserious it is). Won't result in anything good for the opposition.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@pawian
Cause the EU is a union of sovereign independent states sharing a common market.

It's like you are saying that there were no conflict between Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Crown of Poland and that Poland was always a centralized state which is pure nonsense.

Poland was a decentralized state before 1926, PPS, Piłsudski and anyone surrendering to the concept of an centralized state went against how Poland has operated in the past.

Just because PRL politicians and those growing up then listened to the critique and propagated an centralized state (for obvious reasons) doesn't mean it's how Poland functions the best.

One would have to be a complete brain dead lunatic to think that one at the top except for Jesus Christ is able to rule in Poland by giving orders and deciding about any laws being set.

Even when Piłsudski reigned in Poland it was thanks to his connections and not some law in place which all Poles listened to diligently.

Doesn't matter if it's Tusk, Kaczyński or who ever that's the head of state or government. It's just a facade for the population basically anyways.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@Atch
I agree, problem is how journalists earn their money. It's very tempting for journalists to earn money from either tax collection (which the state redistribute from the budget, mainly out of taxes) or rich companies with donations/bribes/backing.

The second the journalists focus on appeasing to the biggest donator, and not the quality of their work or loyalty to their readers. They slowly and gradually will lose readership, keeping up a facade that everything is ok. Only slows down the process, it doesn't fix it.

Unorganized and individual journalists who don't belong to any media company/network without a payroll are easily manipulated by thugs/thug tactics unless they are really brave and know where to find safety without losing their life while also keeping their integrity.

In such situations one is also easily influenced to be partial towards them who saved said journalist.

It's very difficult to be a professional journalist nowadays

Language / Harmless old-fashioned Polish swear words/phrases [159]

A co to Gienia?
No bo "ślepota" to ja znam

Language / Harmless old-fashioned Polish swear words/phrases [159]

@pawian
My best guess: " Jak tam stara krowo"
Highly improper tho

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@pawian
State institutions favor the ruling party in general, either they like it or not useally. Some places more then others. Same with the biurokracja (watch "yes prime minister" to get a better understanding)

Just that, with the opposition threatening closing down TVP... Basically motivating all TVP personnel to work against the opposition, rather then just doing their job.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

Subtly for sure, unless their boss has party connections with opposition.

Good example is the boss in NRK (Norwegian state television) nobody questions their pro-leftist stance, it's just that most journalists generally vote to the left politically

So people criticize their professionalism rather then political loyalties cause... be realistic. They won't change them

News / Poland Sports News [985]

@SamUK84
Probably just emotions running wild, looking for excuses as to how it wasn't "their" failure.

Those people have it worse to recuperate emotionally as their easily most disliked in the modern society for obvious reasons

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

Placek?

Off-Topic / Leftist idiocy rampant in the West [470]

@Novichok
Oh my
U.S.A should start working on emigration to North Korea and China, for everyone who wants to experience it as well. ;)
Including Venezuela! I think they could help out with building toilet paper factories

I was being humorous that's all

News / EU, Germany, Euros and Poland. [54]

@Ironside
As long as it's mainly Germany that does it through the EU. It's not a problem, just like East Germans moving with soldiers in to Czechoslovakia in 1968.

Germans won't be moving with anything in to Poland militarily for a long time. So it's more important that Germany has a clear head about who invests in to Poland, and not who governs in Poland. It would be beyond stupid to stop German investments/contact as long as nothing is pushed down Poland's throat.

Diplomacy&trade is a key factor now with Germany

News / EU, Germany, Euros and Poland. [54]

What's wrong with them drinking Polish milk, milking a Polish cow and listen to Chopen? :)

@Ironside
You worried they won't be able to have enough of Poland?

Off-Topic / Leftist idiocy rampant in the West [470]

@jon357
In my experience, questions that kids make have more sense. As they haven't become biased yet, I guess you prefer combat with words? Instead of learning

Off-Topic / Leftist idiocy rampant in the West [470]

@jon357
I am not going to tell you my age, your questions depend on the persons age? How about profession, languages, group he belongs to? How many cars he has? :)

Off-Topic / Leftist idiocy rampant in the West [470]

@jon357
I thought you were a self declared socialist, with a workers background in the U.K and an proponent of the labour party. My mistake?

@jon357
As you perfectly know It's none of your business, as we have secret ballots.

Off-Topic / Leftist idiocy rampant in the West [470]

@Novichok
You see people like jon357, complain that they aren't "supervised" well enough and that they are victims of capitalism that stole their possibility of living a happy life as an craftsmen. Instead having to become a worker who's fate is decided by a guy who build machines.

It would be like a miller's boy complaining his life is horrible cause he doesn't own the mill, how horrible the mill is that it makes the wheat instead of him, robbing him of his purpose and his job.

Grow up jon357, make your own machine and, get to know a farmer, a baker and make some flour. Your utopian ambitions helps nobody and only creates hellholes and people feeling as big ass whooping victims. Instead of appreciating that they are very much alive.

Off-Topic / Leftist idiocy rampant in the West [470]


I was inspired by your choice of words


Thankfully I have never delved into it, only seen those who react as if they do. I have a hard time understanding since I generally fight feelings of hatred.

Glad to hear you are part of it, it seems I got the wrong impression. In such situations I would been rather angry of anyone trodding down on jar people and where they are from. Without them, Warsaw wouldn't have become what it is today. My family (on my fathers side) moved here before ww2.

Me and fellow Varsovians might underline the differences between us, doesn't mean we prefer red&yellow over white&red. Warsaw has always been rather leftist, but don't you dare even insinuate anything against them.

Even if I would usually disagree or even act like a complete ******* towards them.

Off-Topic / Leftist idiocy rampant in the West [470]

@jon357
I see
So villages, suburbian areas and minor cities perceive Poland to be to be part of Central Europe, which they wrongly perceive it since Poland is supposed to be Eastern European? Those who do not believe Poland to be part of Central Europe are right? Especially those that hate everything about Poland? It's past, present and future?

If I mistaken, feel free to correct me

Travel / What is the weather like in Poland where you are now? [185]

Merged:

Weather - What's your take on it? Tell us a tale about it

It's raining now, one could think I am in England as I have only heard the worst about the weather there.

Right after I have been to the swimming pool to cool off from the heat, here in Warsaw

News / Poland Sports News [985]


Modern day Belgium if I am not mistaken, basically British version of Roman Aristocrats trying to take care of a French Julius Ceasaer with the Prussians closing the deal.

Rugby league? Is that like fantasy football? Where you choose which players you think will perform the best by making your own team? I don't know enough about rugby players to have any chance tho. Unless I invested my time in to it

News / Poland Sports News [985]

@jon357
As I said, played it only once. Must been lucky that's all.

Opposite? You thinking about normans? (Descendants of Vikings who settled in France, then invaded and conquered the Crown of England and quarreled about the crown of France?)

News / Poland Sports News [985]

@Atch
I will be able to boast about a Polish driving license then when I'll get it