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Tacitus   
31 Jan 2018
News / Beata Szydło - the best Polish politician, world's politicians could learn from her [80]

TERROR ATTACK ON THE GERMAN CHRISTMAS MARKET never happened either right? .

All of those attacks (in addition to others) have claimed the lifes of less than 20 people. In other words, islamic terrorism has claimed the lives of perhaps 1 German per year since 9/11. Cows have killed more Germans during this time than terrorists. Yet nobody claims that Germany is under danger from cows.

Funny how the million migrants Poland took in aren't raping women en masse.

Neither are the genuine refugees like the Syrians. If you want, you could easily portray Polish people as criminals too, particulary large Polish families are known to commit a large range of crimes in Germany.

ecause the million we took in

Do not confuse refugees with migrants.
Tacitus   
31 Jan 2018
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

4.6% GDP growth - that's insanely high for a European country.

It would be insanely high for a Western European country, it is still good for an Eastern European country.

However it is concerning that despite its' high growth rate, Poland is still having a relatively high budget deficite. Given Poland's unfavourable demographic outlook, it might not be the best idea to produce more and more debts while the economy is still expanding.
Tacitus   
31 Jan 2018
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

@dolnoslask

when Poland starts flooding tens of thousands of hectares to create the necessary dams , whole villages / valleys under water predominantly in the national parks

It is not like coal-mining does not destroy the environment either. That being said, I believe Poland should invest more in renewable energy. Not only because nuclear energy has a lot of risks, but also because nuclear energy can produce a lot of long-term costs, particulary regarding the safe storage of nuclear waste.

To rely on nuclear energy when a lot of countries have started to reduce nuclear energy as an energy source seems questionable to me. It makes sense for countries like France to rely on nuclear energy long-term because they a) earn money by building nuclear plants in foreign countries and b) have strategic interest in getting ressources for their nuclear weapon programs. Poland on the other hand would have to pay for each plant build in Poland, would have to import nuclear material and would have to pay for its' safe-keeping.
Tacitus   
2 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Bravo PiS for doing what is right and putting Poland's interests first!

I do not care for the law itself, nor do I care if it offends Israel or others per se. But annoying Israel seems to be a bad idea when the American president (whom Poland desperately wants as an ally) seems to back Israel in everything they do. Creating a possible conflict with the USA can hardly be in Poland's interests. Especially not after they have already been bumping heads with its' European allies.

If you are worried about Russia, you'd better not start offending the countries that could offer you support. That is just common sense.
Tacitus   
2 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

If a promise from America to Poland depends on psychotic, narcissistic Israel's say-so then America is no friend to Poland at all.

The problem is that Poland is fast running out of friends if PiS continues with its' current course. That would be fine if Poland was an island like the UK, but since PiS openly considers its' neighbour Russia as a threat, one has to question the wisdom of alienating its' allies like this.

@Ironside

some 'red-necks' and Trump should show them that America won't do any dirty job for Israel for some shekels

Are we talking about the same government that showed unwavering support for Israel Jerusalem-question? And you think that the same government would not side with Israel over this too?
Tacitus   
2 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Don't you think the death of 6 million Poles is more important than 'ramifications' from an ally?

I'd argue that it depends on which kind of diplomatic strategy the Polish wants to rely. So far it looked like PiS wanted distance itself from Western Europe and follow more closely the USA. Fair enough. But now risking that close relationship with the USA for domestic reasons seems a bit shortsighted. At least nobody should be surprised if Poland ends up somewhat isolated in the future.
Tacitus   
2 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

then to hell with such an ally.

Poland needs allies if it wants security against Russia, disregarding them for purely domestic reasons is a folly.

We are already "isolated" and guess what, the real world doesn't give a feck.

We shall see. Perhaps this what PiS is after, the create a siege mentality among its' voters once it becomes clear that Poland is being sidelined on issues that it considers vital for its' security or prosperity.
Tacitus   
3 Feb 2018
History / Lusatian-Sarmatic obsession of Poles [153]

Görlitz has a particulary beautiful city center that was extensively restored after German reunification.
Tacitus   
3 Feb 2018
History / Lusatian-Sarmatic obsession of Poles [153]

Not that I blame him for fighting for his chosen home country, but it is regreattable that he took part in the greatest geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century. The Balkans experienced under the Habsburgs a time of never known time of prosperity, and the collapse of AH lead to so many tragedies later on.

We are still trying to undo the damage to this day.
Tacitus   
4 Feb 2018
History / Lusatian-Sarmatic obsession of Poles [153]

Those are quite sold facts. No space for any denial of it.

This is of course nonsense. Read any book by a respectable historian which was published in the last 50 years. We know very little about most ancient civilizations, their ethnography et al. Tracing your origin to them is even more ridiculous. There have been a lot of attempts to trace back the Germans to the Germanic tribes, but this is now seen as futile due to the lack of evidence, trying to trace them back to the Sarmatians, who came even before them is even more ridiculous.

The only thing that is safe to say is that the Romans brought civilization to the Balkans when they conquered it, as evidenced by archaelogical findings. Before that, there was nothing worth noting between the Roman and Greek world.
Tacitus   
4 Feb 2018
History / Lusatian-Sarmatic obsession of Poles [153]

I don't know about Poland, but you are aware that Lusatians are a minority in every city in German Lusatia right, and the number of children who learn their language is declining rapidly, right?
Tacitus   
5 Feb 2018
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

higher growth rates than Germany, France, and basically every single Western EU country,

Perhaps for a few more years, but probably not long enough to catch up with Western Europe before the effects of demographic decline sets in.

(Hungary leads EU for trade deals with China - Poland is catching up)

This is of course nonsense. Chinese trade with Eastern Europe is tiny compared with the economic ties between China and Western Europe.

nd the unelected commissars of the EU,

The EU commissars enjoy as much democratic legitimacy as any minister in a democratic elected government.
Tacitus   
7 Feb 2018
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

For instance, if rapes in Sweden have not risen 50% since 2006l. If the 10% rise in all areas of crime in Germany is not committed by 90% migrants,

The problem is that you are not taking into account of the various factors behind this increase. Sweden has since 2006 introduced laws that make sexual more easy to prosecute, and it is proven that people are more willing to report rapes by foreigners than by locals (especially if the culprits are known).

The same counts for Germany. If we consider a) the number of refugees and b) their average age, it is not surprising that they are responsible for an increase in crime reports. If you introduced a large number of young Poles to Germany, you would also see an increase in crime. This in fact actually happened after free movement applied to Eastern Europeans. Furthermore, the largest number of refugees (Syrians) is not more likely to commit crimes than native Germans of similar age, the problem is that a relatively small group (North Africans) are very likely to commit crimes.
Tacitus   
7 Feb 2018
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

@SigSauer

can you please cite the study you are referencing which backs up this claim?

I just found this website where this and other arguments are explained in more detail.

government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden

family member whose life becomes irrevocably damaged

If we go with this kind of reasoning, we would have to ban anything that is remotely dangerous. You would have to ban beer, because drunk might to stuff that could hurt other people. Instead we have decided that the actions of a minority should not be used to condemn the majority.

Obviously you could also argue against kind of immigration this way because an individual might be the victim of an immigrant. Only recently my grandparents were almost cheated out of their savings by an Eastern European gang that used the despicable method invented by Polish immigrants. Am I supposed to argue on base of this experience against Polish migeants?

Something similar is also mentioned here.

google.de/amp/s/www.thelocal.de/20170427/anything-but-dramatic-what-the-new-german-crime-report-really-means/amp

NONE of the people other than Syrians have a legitimate claim to asylum

This is not true. While for example most applications made by Afghans are rejected, a minority could prove that they have been targeted directly by the Taliban and thus have claim for asylum. Even people from Africa have sometimes claim for asylum because they can prove that they were targeted for their belief, sexual orientation or because they criticized the government. The problem is, that every case has to be examined first before an an deportation can be made.

should not be in Europe,

Sure, but what is your alternative solution? Those people enter among genuin refugees, and once they enter Southern Europe, those countries let them travel North because they are sick of having to deal wirh them alone. If we had a proper relocation system that would distribute the refugees across Europe, we could build large camps in which refugees are detained and investigated first. But Southern Europeans have no interest with such camps since they fear that they will be stuck with the refugees.

ent. That would please me.

Somewhat understandable, but we are licing under the rule of law and punishments have to be according to the crime. Sentencing someone to solitary confinement (which is not even a valid punishment given by a court) is disproportionate for the crime of having a claim for asylum rejected.
Tacitus   
7 Feb 2018
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

@Atch

 he's as competent as anyone on this forum 

There might be areas where he is competent, but he has repeatedly shown that he has no deeper knowledge about Poland or the EU. He is ignorant about the importance of the EU for Poland, as he said he is even proud of his ignorance. Even if you try to correct him he'll simply ignore you and your sources and state the same nonsens again and again.
Tacitus   
7 Feb 2018
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

No one who arrives by boat will EVER be resettled within Europe."

And what do we do with people wo travel through the land? Europe is not al island after all. ;)

On a more serious note, I assume you are alluding to the Australian model here? I have read quite a lot about it, and frankly I do not belive it is a suitable model for Europe, because of practical and legal reasons. We could now reurgitate all those arguments that have been made on various media, but this would probably be a pointless endeavour. I would personally favour a solution that would see large camps in North Africa where refugees could be registered and await their application, but even this is very difficult to implement since the countries in question have either no interest in housing those camps (Tunisia) or have no government with the power to agree to something like this (Libya).

As I pointed out previously, there exist other safe countries they can go to.

Sure, but none of them are willing or capable to take in and care for such a high number of refugees. There are of course places they could go. The USA could easily absorb 1-2m refugees per year and thus solve the Syrian refugee crisis on its' own. But since the USA prefers to start a crisis rather to end it.... .

I believe any asylum seeker who breaks any German law should be immediately deported.

The (hopefully soon formed) new government wants to my knowledge lessen the threshold to one year. While I agree with you that refugees should be under special scrutiny, since they are benefiting from the hospitality, we have to also consider a proportional response. No question if someone commits a serious crime, he should have to face all the consequences. But sending someone to his potential death because he stole a purse is rather questionable.

resettled in the most advanced and wealthy societies on Earth is quite distasteful to me.

Should we instead expect the poor countries to care for them? We can certainly argue about conflicts on the other side of the world, but given how much the West has screwed up the ME in the last 100 years, I'd we have (not all) responsibility for them. In fact, I believe that Poland has more than e.g. Germany, since Poland actually participated in the foolish Iraq war.

Can you at least concede that hyper political correctness is causing real harm to people

Of course. Genital mutilation, "honour killings" et al. are despicable and should be punished according to the law. That being said, I do not believe that political correctness is that much of a factor in many cases, often prejudices against the poor is also rather important. The police in Germany for example ignored the NSU, a group of right-wing terrorists for years, because there victims were foreigners. The police thought that the victims - perfectly law-abiding citizens - were victims of gang wars and deliberately ignored leads that suggested otherwise. I have recently watched a documentation about genital mutilation in Europe, supposedly the biggest problem for the prosecution is the lack of testimonies by victims and witnesses. If the victim does not say anything, it is difficult to prove just who is responsible for it.
Tacitus   
7 Feb 2018
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

They catch a migrant, they push him back across the border into Turkey.

Which only works because Turkey cooperates. And they only cooperate because the EU pays them and takes a number of refugees from them. Tunisia has already stated that it has no interest in a similar deal, and Libya has no government with authority to sign such a deal.

Yes, like Israel.

You expect a country with 8m people to solve the refugee crisis?

Why is no one asking the Arab world,

Because we are better than the Arab world. We claim to be superior, in social progress, wealth and morals, so we can't use them as a benchmark.

Not Poland.

Yes Poland. poland participated in the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq, because they wanted to get brownie points from the USA.

n one documentary,

You'll find plenty of native people who have no interest in working either.

No, but they should have their hands chopped off.

You might have more in common with those people than you'd think.

European taxpayers are LITERALLY funding

The way benefits are usually disrtibuted to refugees in most European countries, this is hardly the case. Meanwhile our governments have actually and are still funding terrorists and warfare in the ME.

But honestly, this is getting tiresome. Regardless of which topic we have, some people always have to talk about refugees. Like it happened here. We talk about the Polish economy, some point out the potential dangers for the future and then some people write "POLAND IS GREAT BECAUSE IT HAS NOT ACCEPTED A SINGLE REFUGEE!"

@SigSauer

The pleasure is mine.he refugee crisis is certainly one of the most complex international problem we are facing today, it would be great if there was a simple solution to this, we haven't found any that could actually work.
Tacitus   
19 Feb 2018
News / Poland versus Greece in economy [175]

FYROM also claims our northern Macedonia province. :)

The Republic of Northern Macedonia has a fraction of Greece's GDP, population and diplomatic and military cloud. The idea that they could threaten Greece is laughable.
Tacitus   
21 Feb 2018
News / Poland versus Greece in economy [175]

They bailout french and german banks and thats

I agree with most of what you have written, but this is not true. It was Greece who received the bail-outs, not the banks. They used it to pay back the banks, (which were from other countries as well) but it was Greece who benefited the most from it because it did not go bankrupt and could keep the Euro.

If all they wanted to save were the banks, they could have let Greece go bust and bail-out the banks afterwards.

@Dirk

Hah! Merkel didnt invite anyone rofl

As pointed out to you several times, no she did not. Which is what you should easily picked up by now.
Tacitus   
21 Feb 2018
News / Poland versus Greece in economy [175]

In 2015 ite scalated. At worst times our old people collapsed infront the banks and cried.

You have your own politicians to blame for that. Anyone who voted or believed in the madman Varoufakis who caused this situation is also guilty.

So how exactly did they benefit from those 2 things ?

The Greeks obviously. Otherwise they would have lost the Euro, something they desperately wanted to avoid.
Tacitus   
22 Feb 2018
Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Honestly when I read what kind of measures are now discussed in the USA I instantly become very grateful for the laws we habe in Europe. Say what you want, but we dont need armed guards in schools and have children practice emergency drills in case of a school shooting... .
Tacitus   
22 Feb 2018
Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Is it not amusing that those who try to defend US Gun laws are constantly bringing up supposedly migrant crimes other European countries except Poland when the threat is specifically about Poland?
Tacitus   
22 Feb 2018
Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

ever, liberals continually cite the US as an example of increased guns = increased gun violence due to the fact that this argument fails when applied to any other country -

And what about the argument "lax gun laws => more mass shootings"? It is not about the number of guns, but how easy it is for others to get them and what kind of guns are sold.
Tacitus   
22 Feb 2018
Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Guess that blows your theory of stricter gun laws out of the water dunnit.

Ridiculous. You can't just take some backwater to further our arguments. Why not use Somalia too? European countries are in many things comparable to the USA, yet they have tighter gun control and experience far fewer mass shootings than the USA. Australia implemented gun control laws after a devastating mass shooting and has ever since not experienced a similar incident.

youtu.be/9pOiOhxujsE?t=2m31s

Checkmate.

This video destroys within one minute all arguments against gun control.
Tacitus   
22 Feb 2018
Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

@ Dirk Diggler. I am not talking about crimes in general. I am talking about mass shootings here, do not try to divert from this issue.

Could it be perhaps the person behind the gun???

If you do not see the structural differences between Czech Republic and Iraq, you are beyond help.

Czech has lax gun laws yet low violent crime

"Lax" gun laws is relative here. You still have to pass a mandatory test before you get a gun.

Mexico, France, Sweden, Honduras, etc

The fact that you actually compare France and Sweden to Honduras and Mexico says it all. Are you really that ignorant, or do you maliciously twist the facts here?

The USA is way closer to Honduras than those countries. Neither Honduras nor Mexico have actually the means to enforce those laws.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

all of which have lax gun laws and high rates of gun ownership.

The problem is not the number of guns. Switzerland and Germany demonstrate that you can tough have tough gun laws, yet a high number of guns per citizens and few mass shootings. You simply should make it more difficult to acquire them, restrict it to the number of people who have a) training and b) need it either for hunting and sport and you end up with fewer mass shootings.

Strict laws but few shootings - Poland, Iceland, etc.

Under etc:=> Every European country with tough gun laws + Australia+Japan