Love / ACCEPTABLE modest wear for Polish women? [49]

But we are not talking about personal, religious or social views, about what define freedom of clothing and such. We are discussing modesty in wear that fits a Muslim girl in a non Muslim society such as Poland while balancing the European culture with the Islamic standards. I'm sure you can find more countries other than South Africa in which you can walk around without a bra, but that doesn't really add much to the topic of our conversation. I appreciate your effort to bring variety of thoughts in this thread though ^_^

Love / ACCEPTABLE modest wear for Polish women? [49]

Women in Islam wear Hijab similarly to nuns and how Mary is usually presented in art, covering the hair. It's a form of modesty.

Actually, I just watched a YouTube video talking about modesty and the guy mentioned that some consider it as a form of human evolution. It's here

youtube.com/watch?v=E4HGfagANiQ

I really like how he presented it.

I like Christmas festivals and carols and such. Although as a Muslim I'm not allowed to celebrate events that have nonislamic religious ties, we are still allowed and encourage to keep good social terms with others. Basically, you can invite us to your religious events but we aren't allowed to put a Christmas tree and start Christmas related stuff.

@Polson:
I'm sure that people now know all the historical facts related to Christmas, but that doesn't really stop them from enjoying it. From what I see, it seems like an important FAMILY event than it is religious since even non christian celebrate it nowadays. People grew up with the happy memories of getting the gifts and the whole family getting together and having fun.

Love / ACCEPTABLE modest wear for Polish women? [49]

I am learning so much from all of you :) I really appreciate the time and effort you are all putting into this.
My trip to Poland is exciting me to no end. I know there would be a few disappointments. But It's still exciting nonetheless.
In Saudi and back in Yemen I've met Christians,Hindu,Athiests and even Sikh.
But they were living OUR way, there wasn't much of cultural exchange except through conversation, filled with "back home we did this and that". I honestly want to visit some churches. A friend of mine visited a church in Egypt and told me how interesting.

@Yehudi:
Yeah I'm planning to go to Krakow :)
Honestly that really seems interesting. I have NEVER met a Jewish in person.
I just hope he wouldn't feel like I'm mocking him, an Arab walking towards him with a girl in hijab.

@Jon:
I really should research more about halal food and kosher similarities :)

@Paulina:
I think you are right, this is turning pretty much into society and culture rather than everyday life.

And this girl is Polish :) She's a Muslim. and she's my fiance :)
I just want to know more about life there from other points of view. I want to surprise her with lots of knowledge about the culture there :)

Love / ACCEPTABLE modest wear for Polish women? [49]

@Yehudi:
HEY!!! How are you my friend? :D
I have considered that, I would turn myself into a vegetarian unless invited by friends who understand my religious diet.
I thought I might find kosher restraunts, since we are allowed to eat the food prepared by Jews and Christians (unless pork or prepared using alcohol) but I'm not sure I'd find many, and now with your comment I'm definitely turning vegetarian during my stay xD

Although I was told KFC is ok but I'm not sure. They could be using animal fat (pigs mainly) to extract cooking oil ='/

@Grzegorz_:
No, I'm a man. We don't wear hijab but we still have modesty standards in our clothing.

Love / ACCEPTABLE modest wear for Polish women? [49]

Thank you very much Paulina & Kaz :D
It's a real honor to see people from different backgrounds helping each other with open minds and open hearts.
Honestly, if the would discuss religious things this way, we'd have achieved world peace and harmony centuries ago.

Thank you Paulina for your responses. It seems Tom made two replies but I only see one ='/

Regardless, it doesn't matter what religious background you come from, you are right about "when in Rome". But you forgot something, Saudi Arabia are 99.9% Muslims, you have to follow the norms of that society, otherwise you'd be disrespectful to them. Imagine walking in a church in a bikini? I think the people inside would consider it insulting. Now imagine that nation wide. In the other hand, in Poland and most western communities, there are people from all kind of religious backgrounds. So it's more acceptable to walk around in whatever clothes you like as long as you keep up with most social norms. Take nuns for example, they still cover almost like a Muslim girl does. It's their choice and people respect them for that. At least this is my opinion in this matter.

That's the whole point of my thread here. I want to visit Poland, a country with very very few Muslims, and be able to walk around with my family without the letting go of my religious standards while being able to blend (even slightly) with Polish society norms. Finding that balance is something I want to do out of respect to Poland and its people.

Love / ACCEPTABLE modest wear for Polish women? [49]

Although I rather the long skirts she would truly prefer the pink and blue jeans

Much appreciated Paulina
If you have more ideas please give me :)

Love / ACCEPTABLE modest wear for Polish women? [49]

Polsyr, I'm very grateful for your response :)

How about a hat and roll her hair inside instead of a hijab? Although the neck would show but I'm not really sure which is more priority.

You are half right about the islamic code dress purpose. The main idea is to BLEND in, but within standards of modesty (actually this applies for both men and women unlike a lot of people think).

So tank tops and short skirts are out of the question, at least for me and my family.

What would you recommend that would be the least revealing and the most blending?

Love / ACCEPTABLE modest wear for Polish women? [49]

I wish I could make changes to my original post. I guess I should rephrase it.

What can a Muslim girl wear in Poland, to appear modest yet blend in with society? (regardless of hijab)

Travel / Transport information in Krakow? [7]

xD well that's what they put in their locatoin in google maps.
But thanks a lot :) so basically; 2.8 PLN per trip, so it'll cost me about 5.6 PLN a dat, correct?
If that is right, now I think I have a pretty good idea about the cost :) Thank you very much Monitor & Phota for helping me out

Travel / Transport information in Krakow? [7]

I'm still looking, but Ośrodek Hotelowy Optima has the best offer for the period I'm staying there.

So I'd be going every weekday from:

Malborska 65
30-646 Kraków, Poland
12 655 17 49

to:

Main Market Square 6
30-857 Kraków, Poland
12 428 59 30

and vice versa. How do I know the transportation between those two points and calculate the daily costs?
I tried to use the links by Monitor, but the first link says "system could not find any connections", and honestly I'm not sure how to use the second link :(

Sorry, it's a whole different country so I'm not sure what's this from that. I appreciate your advice in finding my way around town.

Work / Teaching English in Poland....CELTA or TESOL certificate? [66]

[Moved from]: TESOL or CELTA in Warsaw? Where can I get this certificate?

Where can I get this certificate in Warsaw?

Life / Joanna (Asia) Name days? [9]

@polonius:
Thanks LOADS! It was killing me trying to figure it out xD and you do have a point about English, I have no idea why Peggy & Bill didn't come to my mind :P

@zetigrek:
That was very informative, and cleared out a lot of things :) Thank you very very very much

Life / Joanna (Asia) Name days? [9]

I have two questions about Polish...
how can a girl named Joanna, her nickname would be Asia? -_-"
I've heard a few other names that the nickname has no resemblence with the original name.
In English, it's pretty easy, Robert is Rob or Bob, Joanna is Anna or Jo, etc. even in Arabic the nickname is always derived from the name itself.

Can somebody explain the logic behind a nickname such as Asia? I'm not making fun of it or being sarcastic, I am sincerely curious to understand the culture behind such a thing :)

My second question is, the names order. In Arabic, we use this order = Given name + father's name + family name with bin or ibn between each name (meaning, son of). for Example, the king of Saudi Arabia is Abdullah ibn Abdulaziz Al-Saud.

What's the naming system in Poland? Do you use middle name like they do in USA? How does the name

Law / Visa to Poland? Invitation by a Polish student? [21]

Thanks for your response
No I'm not EU citizen, it would have made my life more simple :P
I'm a Yemeni citizen from Hadhramout residing in Saudi Arabia.
She's going to visit them this week and see. Hopefully everything will be fine

Life / Internet connecting in Olsztyn and Warsaw? [7]

Thanks Berni & Peter;

@Berni; thank you very much for the link, although I don't understand Polish, Google Translate gave me a pretty good idea on it.
I assume Orange is a popular company?

Love / So I'm an Arab Muslim and freaking out! I'm about to meet my Polish girlfriend's parents [21]

Thank you all very much.
You've helped me a lot.

Love / So I'm an Arab Muslim and freaking out! I'm about to meet my Polish girlfriend's parents [21]

Thank you very much :D I feel very confident now.

Love / So I'm an Arab Muslim and freaking out! I'm about to meet my Polish girlfriend's parents [21]

First, she converted before knowing me.

Second, I'm Hadhrami, not Yemeni. I'm only Yemeni due to political reasons, Yemen is a great culture and great history and I don't have the right to claim myself as a Yemeni. I'm a Hadhrami, which like a Yemeni have our own culture and history.

And I don't think that we Hadhramis nor my Yemeni brothers are famous for spicy food. I think you are mistaken us with Indians. Although I truly admire you for realizing I carry a Yemeni nationality. Most people wouldn't even know what Hadhramis is.

We already talked about the issues. She wants to study all the way to Ph. D. which is why she's asking me to move permanently to Poland. That's a whole level of scary for me, but I want to do this for her and so help me God. I'm just worried about surviving there and work, not the lifestyle and culture or religion though.

I think that man being head of the house is also in Judaism and Christianity. So it has nothing to do with us being Muslim. Also, being head of the house is overrated, it just means that I am screwed for having more responsibilities :P

Love / So I'm an Arab Muslim and freaking out! I'm about to meet my Polish girlfriend's parents [21]

It's a challenge, not an impossibility. They are good people, regardless of how they feel about Islam, they don't HATE Islam, they just disagree about it with us. No one would want their kids to have a different faith than theirs. It's only natural. But I still want to do my best for her and for them. If you've met someone you felt "THE ONE", wouldn't you want to do your absolute best for that person? :)

I'm just asking for some advice, some things that majority of Polish parents admire in their children's companions. I just want to understand the mindset of Polish parents.

Love / So I'm an Arab Muslim and freaking out! I'm about to meet my Polish girlfriend's parents [21]

lol
Let's not debate religions :P
Any other advice that doesn't require me, her or them to change religions?