News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Hey Lyzko, a link would have been nice.

Here it is for others.

jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/right-boycott-wrong-country

I had a read and have mixed feelings about it. Sure he does talk about not boycotting Poland and how Polish people also struggled, but of course likes to emphasise that they were not treated anywhere near as badly as Jews [usual spiel]. Where he completely loses me is when he decides to chime in about Poland and Hungary being dictatorships under its current governments and how the campaign against Soros in Hungary is anti-Semitic. Sounds like left-wing drivel to me.

And look, here is an anti-Polish letter in response

jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/polish-anti-semitism

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]

Doug, I still don't understand, why do you live in Poland? Have you committed some crimes in your home country and this was the only way for you to stay out of prison?

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]

I think kaprys makes a good point. It seems it's only the workers in big chain supermarkets and similar stores that will have Sundays off, but plenty of people will still be working in the industries she mentioned, and many of them too have families.

I suppose, aside from allowing some workers to have the day off, the thought process is also that if most stores are closed, people won't spend their Sunday shopping, but will perhaps go to church with their family and then do something together with them, either at home or in the park or wherever.

Despite that, I have mixed feelings about this law. I see the plus side, but also don't think it was thought out properly. I am usually against laws that dictate to people what they can and can't do or how they should be spending their time.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]


A quick Google search - LoL

Feedback / What's with the + signs in front of threads? [8]


It appears so - but I have never seen this before.

@Chemikiem

I use Google Chrome

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Oy anti-Semitism. Amazing that Jewish organisations have now managed to make this Putin interview with msnbc about themselves.

jpost.com/International/Putin-Jews-might-have-been-behind-US-election-interference-544708

Vladimir Putin answered a question on Russian meddling in the US election by saying "Maybe they're not even Russians. Maybe they're Ukrainians, Tatars, Jews, just with Russian citizenship, even that needs to be checked."

I wonder if Tartars or Ukrainians are also going to react with similar outrage?

Travel / Anyone here use/used Ryanair? Flying from/to Poland [31]

I doubt he would ground them - it's just an empty threat in the hope of stopping Brexit. All it would do is lose him business and ruin Ryanair's reputation in the long run. O'Learly seems to have forgotten that other budget airlines do exist.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]


There we go, someone is trying to unnecessary stir the situation up even more. No truth to it. The USA would be mad to just openly state that they're done with Poland unless they change their law. It would effectively be seen as the USA blackmailing countries unless they are run how they want them to be run.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]


I wouldn't take it as fact yet because politico have reported it from some source, so let's wait and see. Would the USA really make it that obvious that they basically just do what the Jewish lobby tells me? I wouldn't have thought so.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Polish people ought to care, if he is telling the government what they can and can't do. That's a step too far. Of course, for now they don't appear to be listening to him, thankfully.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]


I doubt he would lie about the secondary school he attended. He's from London and it is a Jewish Orthodox secondary school. Also, he probably knows how easy it would be to fact check it and figure out he was lying and that would put a dent in his credibility [not that he should have any credibility in the first place]. I do however think he is lying or at least not being fully truthful about particular organisations he is/was involved with in his adult life. It still baffles me that he is being given a voice in Poland.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Yep, that's a link to his interview with Sieci I was talking about - an interview which he himself is promoting, so he probably did a good job in bullsh-tting his way through it, as I imagine the Karnowski brothers would have asked him some tough questions [or at least that's what they are claiming. I haven't read it].

The more this Poland v Israel conflict goes on, the more I'm finding the most annoying and agitating part of it to be Jonny Daniels and it's pis-ing me off even more that the Polish media [mostly right wing media, sadly] seem intent on promoting him.

He's constantly doing interviews on TVP info, he did this interview with Sieci, he has done various other interviews too. Why? Why does what he has to say matter? He shouldn't have any say in what rules and laws made in Poland. He doesn't even speak any Polish. If he is supposed to be a go-between guy to improve Israeli-Polish relations - improve business between the two countries or whatever, that's one thing, but that can't be it, because he has way too much to say on what laws Poland should and should not bring in and how they should word it, what organisations the Polish government should ban etc.

I agree with you, he isn't who he portrays himself as, but it doesn't look like he is going to go away, and the Polish media, for one, are making sure of it.

It would be so easy for this guy to just fade away from public life in Poland. The media just have to stop constantly doing interviews with him and bringing him in to the limelight. Yet they do it and this is building his profile and making him a more and more significant figure in Poland. I just don't understand why.

Love / Marriage problems in Poland [50]

The reason I ask about nationality, is that since 'nope' isn't Polish and probably isn't even slavic, it could just be a mentality issue. Your mentalities are too different. Once you get over that honeymoon period [it can last months or even years, in your case] where you're in love [or think you're in love], you start to realise as time goes by, how different you are to the other person. It could be that this has started to hit her and she isn't coping with it well.

As Muhammad Ali said, that's why blue birds fly with blue birds and red birds fly with red birds. They aren't as smart as us yet they know to stat together.

At some point, you'll want Chinese food and she'll want Polish food or she will want to go to church and you'll want to go to the beach. Obviously these are just examples that might not apply to you, but the point is, once these differences start to add up, the relationship can go sour. The spark wasn't going to last forever and to some degree you have to be compatible. If that's what it is, she might have made up her mind already. Or she could just be going through a phase and she'll snap out of it. Who knows?

Love / Marriage problems in Poland [50]

Hey 'nope' I take it your wife is Polish and you guys live in Poland? Where are you from?

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Looks like Daniels was interviewed by the Karnowski brothers for Sieci. He claims there were some tough questions on who he is and what he is doing in Poland. They couldn't have been that tough, if he's happily advertising the interview. He obviously had a [bullsh-t] answer for everything.

He posted it on social media. Check out some of the comments of praise underneath it [screenshot attached]. Useful idiots.

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News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Looks like the Israeli media lied about the 'freezing' of the law until Polish and Israeli representatives meet to discuss the issue and possible rewording of it.

A Polish government spokeswoman said there is no such thing as 'freezing a law' in Poland and that it will be implemented soon.

tvp.info/36157824/ustawa-o-ipn-zamrozona-rzecznik-rzadu-dementuje-wchodzi-w-zycie-1-marca

@delph

As for Daniels, did you see his recent backslide, as he apologised on social media for things he has said? A few days before he made the apology, he wrote that Jews who collaborated, did so out of fear and because they had to, while Polish people who collaborated, did so out of hatred and greed. This caused much outrage in Poland [unsurprisingly].

I think he realised that less and less people in Poland were liking him. The left and far-right were already against him, and then he managed to turn the moderate PiS supporting right against him too - so there was almost nobody left on his side. It was damage limitation with the apology I suppose.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Not sure if this is confirmed, because it's in Israeli media and hasn't been mentioned in any Polish media yet [from what I can see], but if it is true, this is a very bad move by PiS, - going to Israel to 'reword' the law. They would lose support over this - it would be perfect for their political opponents.

timesofisrael.com/tv-report-poland-freezes-holocaust-law-is-sending-team-to-israel-to-reword-it

Life / Right-wing events in Poland [13]

Or you're a left wing journalist or agitator just looking for controversy

Po polsku / Nocna zmiana nudnooo [427]


Tu akurat sie mylisz. Na przyklad w Wielkiej Brytanii jesto dosyc spora liczba patriotow. Chyba nawet ludzie bardziej stawaja sie patriotami, po tym co widza w UK.

A ty wredotka przestan juz sie widywac z hindusami i znajdz sobie fajnego polaka.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

I hope he is gone soon but unfortunately there are still quite a few naive Polish people who appear to think he has received a harsh and unfairly reaction and are telling him to keep doing the 'good job' he is doing. My concern is that people like that will motivate him to stay.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Oh I didn't know he was responding to a picture originally posted by Daniels. Yep and he also mentioned Polish and Jewish people like that are the reason Jews like Daniels are alive today. Good for Kukiz.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Certain facts certainly didn't seem to add up in what he said. Apparently his mother was responsible for getting her family to safety during the war when she heard their Polish neighbours plotting to turn them in [as he described it], but she would have been a little girl, so it's very strange that she would be able to save her family at such a young age.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

I don't know where to find it on the Polish government page, but Israeli media has the law in one of its articles

timesofisrael.com/full-text-of-polands-controversial-holocaust-legislation/

The law doesn't state that you can't say some Polish people collaborated with the German Nazis and many people seem to be confused about this - that's why there seems to be so much anger. It just doesn't allow you to say that the Polish nation took part in the holocaust in general [as there was no Polish nation. It was occupied].

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

I heard one of his aunts is Jewish, but he is Catholic. Anyway if you want to say that his family is partially Jewish, it's just another reason why a complete arse like Yair Lapid saying that his comments at the Munich Security Conferece were anti-Semitic, is ludicrous.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

I assume people have heard of the latest uproar, after Morawiecki [truthfully] mentioned Jewish involvement in the Holocaust at the Munich Security Conference yesterday.

History / Israeli wants to wipe Poland off the map! [198]

Speaking of chosen people, there is a notable difference in the Jewish faith to other religions. That difference is that Jews do not seek to preach to people or convert then. People of other religions on the other hand, do this all the time.

Now for this reason, non-religious people might find Jews less annoying, because they are not trying to 'force' their religion on them, but what is more interesting is the reason they do not try to convert people and it is more to do with the fact that Orthodox religious Jews believe they are chosen.

If you aren't born Jewish, then they believe that perhaps you aren't chosen by God like them, perhaps you weren't meant to be a Jew - you were meant to be a gentile.

Other religions don't have this mentality. Anybody who converts to Christianity or Islam isn't considered not as good as those who were born in to the faith. That's why those religions preach their word and encourage others to convert.

At least, I think this is the case. Perhaps somebody can enlighten me? Can a convert to Judaism [like say, Ivanka Trump] be considered to be on the same level as an Orthodox Jew born of Jewish blood, or would she never be considered as Jewish as them?

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Scheduler for Glenn Beck? Really? I didn't know that. So it could be that before 2011 he was in the Israeli army, although there was probably something after that, before the Beck stuff.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Really weird most recent tweet by Jonny Daniels - implying that Grzegorz Braun [a well known critic of his and Judaism in general] is a Jew himself. I don't know if Daniels is just trying to wind up Braun fans.

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Po polsku / Nocna zmiana nudnooo [427]

Wredotka ale ty filozofujesz na tych nockach