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Anyone here use/used Ryanair? Flying from/to Poland


OwCr 3 | 15    
7 Mar 2018  #1
If so, what do you think of the attitude of that grumpy little sjw Michael O'Leary? Sounds to me he has a small trouser department and a massive ego, which is typical of businessmen in the western world these days.

Seriously though, it's rather silly for him to have constant tantrums over Brexit these days. He should try and be a real man for once and treat his employees like human beings, and actually improve his airline services if he wants his airline company to be taken serious.

Well, I can only hope that he won't be "grounding" his planes before my flight from Newcastle to Wroclaw for a small holiday, otherwise consider his airline service over.

and no, I am NOT "changing my mind" for the sake of him and his political views... he can go and f*k himself.
jon357 66 | 13,335    
7 Mar 2018  #2
That's capitalism for you...
WielkiPolak 55 | 1,023    
7 Mar 2018  #3
I doubt he would ground them - it's just an empty threat in the hope of stopping Brexit. All it would do is lose him business and ruin Ryanair's reputation in the long run. O'Learly seems to have forgotten that other budget airlines do exist.
dolnoslask 5 | 1,847    
7 Mar 2018  #4
Post brexit hit him with a 500% landing fee increase, that will shut him up.

no more EU law to step in to say its unfair, the rest of the carriers will take up the slack.
Dougpol1 25 | 1,788    
7 Mar 2018  #5
he can go and f*k himself.

If O'Leary was a woman I would give him a kiss. Lost count of the number of wads of tenners for 220 pounds sterling I handed over to British Airways and LOT in the 80s, Heathrow-Warsaw.

Eventually I bought shares in British Airways to try to get something out of it. Lot were better than British Airways, but they still both ran the old cartel as a flight-share.; LOT had half decent food and as many minatures as one could drink:) O'Leary airlines are cheaper, and that's what the world wants today, not Wyborowa vodka. Also he flies to Stanstead, or in your case, to your door. Can't see what you're complaining about:)
dolnoslask 5 | 1,847    
7 Mar 2018  #6
He is a capitalist meddling in politics i am no brexiteer, but he should not use his monopoly to put the squeeze on ANY government, I have yet to see any government from any party put a proper yolk on the necks of these capitalists and shareholders, yes they should be able to make profits but in a controlled way so that the revenue gets its fair share of cash it needs to provide proper public services.

If you stop a moment and think about it government is a business in its own right and it should use any tool at it disposal to get a fair deal for it shareholders, thats us the general public.

with the above in mind not need for rants about nationalisation, let the capitalists and shareholders take the risk and take some profit, but be sure the people get their fair share.
spiritus 67 | 658    
7 Mar 2018  #7
I flew with them once and it wasn't as bad as I was anticipating. I did find the constant adverts over the loudspeakers rather annoying though
mafketis 16 | 5,667    
7 Mar 2018  #8
I flew them once roundrtip (Poland-Malta) and from what I'd read and heard was almost expecting them to whip the passengers while rifling through their wallets. It was actually pretty okay, very comfortable (no sardine crowding like wizzair) and cabin staff (Italians on those flights) was polite and competent.

But there do seem to be management issues, I suspect this tantrum is cover for deeper organizational problems...
Chemikiem 5 | 1,112    
7 Mar 2018  #9
It was actually pretty okay

I've flown in and out of Poland many times with them and never had a problem.They're the equivalent of a flying bus, but for a couple of hours flight they're ok. Having said that, since they cancelled all those flights due to screwing up pilots' holidays, I haven't bothered booking with them again and I'll think twice before I do, definitely some internal problems there.

I don't think planes will be grounded, I did read that he had been misquoted, but this does raise the important issue of the UK having to renegotiate its open skies agreements with the EU and US airspace after Brexit.
jon357 66 | 13,335    
8 Mar 2018  #10
but he should not use his monopoly to put the squeeze on ANY government,

He does however have a duty to his shareholders to maximise profits. It isn't in any sense a public service; it is a money-making business, one notorious for exploiting their workers.

I've flown in and out of Poland many times with them and never had a problem.

I've used them too, however slightly prefer Wizz Air. There's also Norwegian Airlines running direct low-cost flights. I don't use them now, due to the particular routes - I tend to use Lufthansa or Germanwings, or occasionally LOT/KLM on a codeshare. It means changing, however it gets me to the right UK airports, at the right time of day, and the difference is just a few quid, especially when you factor in the various extra costs on Ryanair, like baggage, seats, boarding. Comfort is a factor too.

If you want to fly PL to UK, always check out the BA price in Business Class - there's relatively low take-up and there are occasionally real bargains.

I've actually booked a Ryanair flight (Lisbon-Warsaw) soon, due to the particular time/day they fly suiting more than the other options. I'm not looking forward to it.
dolnoslask 5 | 1,847    
8 Mar 2018  #11
, one notorious for exploiting their workers.

I would put him and his business on a major tax inspection with immediate effect, I would also pressure the Irish authorities to do the same, It would be thorough taking at least a year, with seizure of servers, ledgers and documents.
irishlodz 1 | 135    
8 Mar 2018  #12
I would also pressure the Irish authorities to do the same, It would be thorough taking at least a year, with seizure of servers, ledgers and documents.

Some utter nonsense being spouted here.

Ryanair have in the past grounded planes for months when it suited them, particularly in the winter months. He will have no problem doing again. They have plenty of planes over 10 years old fully paid for and written off in accounts.

Yes they made a mess of things last year, and the guy responsible walked. They are now realising unionising will not solve all their problems, and there will be strikes. There is a massive global shortage of pilots, and they were caught out.

As it stands, post-brexit the UK will revert back to bilateral rights with each country. That will cause havoc, not so much for Ryanair, as it will for the EU shareholder owned BA. The Brits can try tax and punish MOL all they want. He will just move his planes elsewhere. He has markets like the Ukraine, Finland, France, Israel, Albania, Croatia, Serbia, Austria, Slovenia, Switzerland, Denmark where they have zero bases yet.

You might think he is complaining about Brexit to reverse it. Really he's looking for publicity as always (it's free), and highlighting the UK government is sleepwalking into a disaster. If brexit is to happen in March 19, then airline schedules for that time are planned NOW, and will be announced this summer - about 9 months ahead. Given the UK govt haven't a clue, how can an airline.

PS It has emerged this week that the buddies of the UK, the USA, are sticking it to them in back room air access negotiations. May is a complete joke.
jon357 66 | 13,335    
8 Mar 2018  #13
I would put him and his business on a major tax inspection with immediate effect,

This does happen, and if you're interested, the tax authorities in Poland are wise to the tax-saving practices of airlines, especially some of the ones concerning airline food and other services.

I would also pressure the Irish authorities to do the same,

Ireland likes to be a bit of a tax haven for companies.

May is a complete joke.

All Tories are, a bad joke whose every policy has huge human cost.

JC4PM
spiritus 67 | 658    
8 Mar 2018  #14
Tories are the best option in a pool of mediocrity. They are a far better option than Labour at the moment though...
dolnoslask 5 | 1,847    
8 Mar 2018  #15
JC4PM

If that happens will you clear off from Poland and go back to Britain comrad
Miloslaw 2 | 171    
8 Mar 2018  #16
LOL!!
jon357 66 | 13,335    
8 Mar 2018  #17
If that happens

When that happens, no. And certainly not on Ryanair, who I hope will be taxed heavily and punished for the shoddy way they treat their staff.
dolnoslask 5 | 1,847    
8 Mar 2018  #18
When that happens, no

Oh why not you and your partner would both enjoy the freedom to be yourselves, you would find well paid work under JC that's for sure
jon357 66 | 13,335    
8 Mar 2018  #19
Thanks for your interest, however it's important to keep on the topic about the ghastly Ryanair. As for 'freedom' and 'jobs' we certainly "both enjoy the freedom to be ourselves" n Poland and have nice jobs as it is. Nice enough to be able to have a bit of flexibility about airlines. One thing about Ryainair, is that it isn't always a pleasant journey, and the flight times (same with WizzAir) aren't always great.

It's a false economy to pay 60 quid for a flight, when you've to pay another 25 quid for the luggage, a tenner for the seat and 50 quid on the train from the airport. It often works out cheaper to use a better airline that includes luggage and goes to an airport nearer your destination.

Plus the departure gates at Modlin can be a bit of a zoo, jammed full of people, some of them getting stressed and pushing.
SigSauer 2 | 444    
8 Mar 2018  #20
I think all those budget airlines are a joke. Took the family from Warsaw to Vienna on Wizzair, to find at the gate I had to pay for every single bag. I guess saving every dime is important to some, but when I'm on vacation I don't want to be bothered with those little details, better to just pay it once and then not worry about that stupid stuff.
dolnoslask 5 | 1,847    
8 Mar 2018  #21
however it's important to keep on the topic about the ghastly Ryanair

Oh yes you are right, I would not be surprised that an accident occurs one day due to their poor staff policies.
jon357 66 | 13,335    
8 Mar 2018  #22
I would not be surprised that an accident occurs one day due to their poor staff policies.

I think they're well enough trained, however yes, one day something will happen.

The last time I used Modlin, the gate was absolutely jammed, and a guy started yelling at me for 'jumping the queue' - in fact I had a priority boarding and was making my way to that queue. He did look apologetic when he saw my boarding pass. I noticed other people getting noticably agitated that day as well.

This is a problem, there are travellers there who aree already stressed (often flying as families and not at all frequent flyers who take things in their stride), all jammed in to a tiny space, stressed by all the queues and delays and the temperature rising due to the sheer number of bodies squashed in there. One day something bad will happen there, if it hasn't already.
irishlodz 1 | 135    
8 Mar 2018  #23
More ill-informed, biased twaddle. Ryanair operate over 400 aircraft across Europe every day, and are about the largest airline in Europe. They have NEVER had a fatal accident, as opposed to virtually every other large European airline. Every LLC operates in the same way, I have had far worse experiences with WIZZ. Both are value for what you pay for, all LLC's are.

Modlin is an overcrowded kip, and I aggressively avoid it. In fact, I never take my family through it even though it is close to us. Ryanair have being publicly campaigning for an extension to Modlin, but PiS are blocking in anticipation of their new central airport. When they moved domestic flights to Chopin they were treated like dirt, and given distant cargo stands to load passengers, as they were destroying LOT on these routes.
jon357 66 | 13,335    
8 Mar 2018  #24
when I'm on vacation I don't want to be bothered with those little details, better to just pay it once and then not worry about that stupid stuff.

Spot on. Ryanair/Wizzair can somertimes be a false economy.

Modlin is an overcrowded kip

A riot waiting to happen.

The squalor and rapaciousness of Ryanair just adds to that.
dolnoslask 5 | 1,847    
8 Mar 2018  #25
Ryan Air pilots have raised concerns in the past sadly they have been gagged ever since.

thejournal.ie/ryanair-passenger-safety-1033670-Aug2013

Ryanair is rated joint worst in Europe by 'Which?' readers

independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/worst-airline-which-ryanair-british-airways-survey-vueling-jet2-norwegian-united-singapore-airlines-a8113616.html
prztymucel    
11 Mar 2018  #26
Are you all Victorian ladies travelling with a million suitcases? It's very rare that I've had to actually pay for luggage on Ryanair. A decent-sided backpack or small suitcase is free as hand luggage.

And sure, Modlin sucks for those unfortunate enough to be in Warsaw, but there are other cities where you fly out of the regular airport.
Chemikiem 5 | 1,112    
11 Mar 2018  #27
It's a false economy to pay 60 quid for a flight, when you've to pay another 25 quid for the luggage, a tenner for the seat

I must admit that the charges these days are getting worse. Now you can only have cabin baggage in the cabin with you if you pay for priority boarding, otherwise it goes in the hold. Still, at least they binned the idea of charging for using the toilets! I've got 3 flights booked this year, and none of them are with Ryanair.

A decent-sided backpack or small suitcase is free as hand luggage.

If you don't mind it going in the hold. If you want it in the cabin, you have to purchase priority boarding. New rules.
Marino_Kat 2 | 131    
11 Mar 2018  #28
Nobody with some self-respect would fly with Ryan-air.

I want service and pay more for that. I would actually feel ashamed to fly RyanAir.

Has Poland its own airline?

Our biggest is Aegean Airline
Chemikiem 5 | 1,112    
11 Mar 2018  #29
I want service and pay more for that

You get what you pay for. It's a no frills airline.

Has Poland its own airline?

LOT
dolnoslask 5 | 1,847    
11 Mar 2018  #30
I want service and pay more for that. I would actually feel ashamed to fly RyanAir.

I think you must know all about good service in your trade, so I believe you.

Best to go private jet whenever possible, but I guess we all might need to travel coach at times when the jet is not available.




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