Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

I simply laughed at ItsAllAboutME fuming at the Polish men, wishing Poland were invaded again and that all men were sent to Siberia.
I shouldn't even laugh. My two uncles had been sent to Siberia and died there in uranium mine, and an aunt returned to Poland mad to die shortly afterwards.

Not only that.

If you read this thread carefully, you'll see yourself the OP (a Norwegian female construction boss) had asked for the reasons a Polish working team did not want to obey her orders. I have given the Norwegian full although concise analysis why I believe that was happening AND I said it had nothing to do with the sex of the boss.

Most of this thread should go to the bin as an off-topic. The Mod chose to remove one of my posts however.

Not only that.

I believe many of the posters simply do not get what traditional chivalry of Polish men towards women means. Instead, off-topic poster offending Polish men is protected by Mods.

So, may I know the reasons?

History / Are Polish territories natively German? [73]

Polish, German and Czech are all indeed UPPER SILESIAN!

HAILE SILESIA! ;-)))

History / Are Polish territories natively German? [73]


Teutonic Knights are perceived as The Evil Incarnated in Poland. Fancy that: You are a peaceful tourist collecting some blueberry there in the mountains and you see a gang of impressive knights with those large black crosses, armoured, swords etc. Your first thought is whether you are sane yourself, then get panicked ;-)

OTOH, when the Knights arrived at the gate of the Marienburg Castle, they asked for the admission tickets, getting this answer:
-- The hosts do not need to pay! ;-)

Finally, a guy from Silesia was showing the castle to his GF at that time and telling her stories on his friends playing Teutonic Knights. Suddenly... the group suddenly appears in the corridor... The guy mumbles: "THEM?!"

History / Are Polish territories natively German? [73]

BTW, BB, you should claim German rights to Bergen, Norway. It was a Hansa city, too. :-)

History / Are Polish territories natively German? [73]

Ease up, Bratwurst Boy. Sometimes all of us get carried away, quite unnecessarily. You don't need to answer my question related to East Prussia; you know the history. You should however bear in mind that the history of places such as Danzig or Breslau was rather complex. So rarely Czech presence is ever mentioned in the Silesia talks, and the history of Danzig involves many nations, not only Poles and Germans.

If the Moderator saves my posts, let me tell you a story on a lighter note.
Some Silesian friends of mine -- acting as the real Silesian do, with specific sense of humour (they are Poles to German and German to Poles etc...) -- were participating in some 'Ritterorden" (I do not know the right English word for that), and as living in Poland they chose the Teutonic Order of course. You know, white coats with black crosses, helmets, shields etc. They had been wandering through Bieszczady Mts., visiting Marienburg/Malbork and had a lot of fun seeing panicked locals ;-)

Once, in some bar there in Katowice, there was a big dispute between some Polish history professor and the acting Grand Master of the Ritterorden. The professor was doing very well and the Grand Master was losing ground. The final question from the professor was:

-- So, how many Teutonic Knights were there in the battle of Tannenbaum/Grunwald, exactly?

The Grand Master had to say something to save his face. So he boldly answered:

-- TOO FEW!

;-))))

History / Are Polish territories natively German? [73]

Bratwurst Boy, isn't it right that the German had conquered the original ancient Prussians (a Baltic tribe) and even stole their name? ;-)

History / Are Polish territories natively German? [73]

I have seen Slavonic excavations down there in Ruegen, done by German ;)

History / Are Polish territories natively German? [73]

Does Bratwurst Boy mean whole Poland? ;-)


Some parts of Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania used to be Polish in the past and so what? Some parts of Poland were Czech in the past, then overtaken by German. So what? Some parts of Germany were Slavonic in the past and so what? I could say Ruegen IS natively Slavonic ;-)

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

You either love them or live without them. ;-)

Language / Improving Polish reading comprehension and vocabulary. A downloadable collection of passages? [14]

myjustyna, although I'm against piracy myself, I'll tell you what people do here. They register to chomikuj.pl then google out a title of a novel by "title chomik" phrase and and then download a DOC or PDF from the Chomik ;-)

Food / Polish food at home or out? [57]



Some weird Polish people living in the neighborhood of San Diego could even lace their coffee with sulfuric acid ;-)

Honestly, on my first trip to Romania I had a bad luck to meet two different people stuffing themselves with the extremely hot chili (chushka). This led me to believe all of them Romanian were lovers of spicy food. Nothing more wrong as it turned out later :-)

News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]

Mr Slurp ;-)

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]

Underwear, yes. I write this before Magda corrects you ;-)

Last Halloween, my wife put the whole outfit of a Drag Queen onto me. From that day, I sympathize with the fair sex ;-)

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]

Suknia would be dress, spódniczka would be skirt...

Oh, we ignorant men! ;-)
The grey part is called skirt
The grey part of the vessel is called "the skirt" ;-)

Food / Polish food at home or out? [57]


Strange... grilled meat should be poured with beer while roasting, but oil?!

Love / Hot Polish girls in clubs - why don't they dance/talk with the most attractive men only? [148]

All this thread makes very little sense.
The Polish women say: "A man is not expected to be handsome. A man needs to be the man".
What they mean by "the man" is only clear to them.
Subject closed.

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]


Yes it has.

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]


My English won't be any better, Lyzko ;-) I can promise that to you! ;-)

Life / Uptight Poles [262]

First, I wanted to answer you sarcastically ItsAllAboutME then I thought I wouldn't go down to the level of your comment and I will tell you something seriously.

Have you ever wondered how it is the users of Apple computers or of the LINUX operating systems are so nervous about the PC/Windows? The answer is: The feel they must be doing SUM TIN WON themselves ;-) The PC/Windows users are simply not interested with other computers and operating systems, feeling quite comfortable.

Now, majority of Poles don't care about other religions. I've never heard Polish Catholics saying anything bad on Luteran, Protestants, Anglican, Buddhist, name some religions yourself. This dates back to the ancient "golden freedom" and the religious tolerance (the latter dating back to the Warsaw Confederation of 1573). On contrary, English intolerance against Catholic dates back to Henry VIII, about the same era. While I yet have to see some kind of anti-Anglican demonstration in Poland, the "Vicars & Tarts" parties seem to be one of English favourite pastimes. And that devilish Pope... Oh. The only exception I can see is declared antisemitism of part of Poles, which is amusing in the country in which there are almost no Jews. Still, there are lunatics in every country, and I would not say the listeners of Radio Maryja are representative to Poland; no, they are jeered at by most of the Polish youth. Have you ever heard of the "mohair berets"?

When it comes to gays, the Polish golden freedom is: "Live and let others live". That is, nobody would really say anything against gays if not the gays were loudly and visibly fighting for they rights. I'd say to gays: Love whomever you love but do it in privacy. No, gays must organize their Parades and advertise their way of life loudly. This is what most of us Poles hates.

What's the problem if a foreigner shows interest in Polish women? Polish women are the boss; they decide whom to choose, not Polish men. See how chauvinistic you are ItsAllAboutME? Don't pin that to the Poles. Read threads of jarnowa, oh poor, frustrated man. He is clearly told by Polish women they choose nice men, Polish and foreigners. He seems to know better whom they should choose. A wonderful example "supporting" your case.

Although Poles are absolutely not free of prejudices, shall we believe in all those conspiracy theories? Or, global warming, gosh, I felt the global warming couple days ago, with a snowfall in May, a snowfall to cover my blooming cherry tree.

Decidedly, the Polish are not free from faults. No nation is. However, you should think your pack of nonsense better.

Life / Why are cars so expensive in Poland ? [23]

Buy me a pint of beer at an English pub (not a private club) for a pound thirty, The Hitman ;-)

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

I have given a second thought to Enga's questions.

Enga, it's not the matter of you being female boss at all. The matter is the cultural clash.

The Polish are adaptive, flexible, ingenious. They also hate all bans and prohibition as well as unnecessary injunction. This is the nation saying "Nie na nas Polaków zakazy!" meaning "Nothing is forbidden to us, Poles".

You tell your team use appropriate tools. I can easily imagine what they are saying behind your back:
-- The boss told us to use such-and-such tool...
-- Give it a f*ng sh*t, does she want us finish before the Winter or what?

As long as they are a qualified team, they perfectly know their tools are right for the work to be done and changing the tools would only mean hassle to them. They know nobody would come and ask questions on the tools used, and if such inspector would even come, the boss is responsible to cover the workers.

This is how we do it in Poland.

A word on flexibility, adaptiveness, ingenuity:
I often fly to Norway on business by Norwegian.no. On one of the flights, I bought me a sandwich and asked the Norwegian flight attendant if she could pass me some salt. She said: "No salt, sorry".

Next time it was the Polish crew. When I asked for salt, the stewardess frowned for a fraction of a second and then... she passed a Bloody Mary set to me! So simple it was, goddam...

Love / Hot Polish girls in clubs - why don't they dance/talk with the most attractive men only? [148]

Flagless, it could be good lyrics if not the words for "Najlepsza baba" had been already written, the song had been recorded and now I'm making the mix and mastering ;-)

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]

"Skąd wiedziałeś, że jestem żydowskiego pochodzenia, Antku? Nie, niestety jeszcze nie byłem w Krakowie, nawet w Kazimierzu Dolnym" and you are doing better and better Lyzko, at least trying!

The story goes like this: University students had to attend a Military Academy, and there was one in Kraków in 1987. During my service there, I was doing my best to get as many leaves from the barracks as possible. So I was getting leave to see the dentist, or I was rewarded for "excellent military conduct" because I knew you had to be firm, barking right answers to army officers loudly, saluting smartly and so on when you were impressed to the Army ;-) Kraków is magnificent but I really admired the Kazimierz quarter. I was going there whenever possible. Having the Army hat on helped. No problem to find a head cover when entering the Synagogue or the cemetery there ;-)

You gonna see that!

Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

Add to it the respect of Polish men towards women, probably based on the cult of Mother Pole and I'm not joking now.

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]


Have you also had time to visit the Kazimierz part of Kraków, the Jewish district?

Love / Hot Polish girls in clubs - why don't they dance/talk with the most attractive men only? [148]

Which part of these lyrics describes you the best, FlaglessPole?

You see, that jerk Roman is forty-some old
He was a bashful kid, of women a bit afraid
Neighbour's naked breast once peeped through the door
Gave him an antidote for his sexual dearth
(because)
The best maid is your own hand
Neither sulks or worse days
The best maid is your own hand
A moment of happiness at no cost!

;-)

Love / Hot Polish girls in clubs - why don't they dance/talk with the most attractive men only? [148]

Has anybody else dedicated a song to you? An original song? ;-)

Love / Hot Polish girls in clubs - why don't they dance/talk with the most attractive men only? [148]

Soon, my project Psychodance will release a song "Najlepsza baba to własna graba" or "The Best Maid Is Your Own Hand" ;-)

I promise dedicating it to FlaglessPole, jarnowa, Sokrates and the like :-D

Life / Why are cars so expensive in Poland ? [23]

In Norway and Denmark, so-called "registration tax" may easily be equal to the value of the new car itself and is never depreciated... This often doubles the price of already expensive cars. In Poland, the fuel is almost the cheapest in the EU. Everything has to be put in the right perspective, everything balances.

Some story to cheer up Todiak. An article from the Norwegian press:

OBAMA'S TAX SHOCK
At the time of publishing this article, Norway was awaiting the state visit of President Barack Obama. The American President (the article reads) usually takes his limo to any country visited, and to act right -- he orders registering the limo in given country.

The Norwegian tax authority made tax calculation to register Obama's limousine:

1. Car weight tax (approx. 8 tonnes): 1,200,000 NOK
2. Engine power tax (approx. 450 HP): 600,000 NOK
3. Ecology tax (over 1 kilogram of CO2 per 1 km): 2,200,000 NOK
4. Scrapping tax: 1,300 NOK only
The total tax would be approximately NOK 4,000,000, equvalent to PLN 2,000,000 or USD 717,000 at that time

Just look to the ecological tax itself. One needs to remember all those ecological nonsense had been supported by the U.S. Pres. own party and advisors. Were Obama really charged with that tax, the U.S. tax-payer would certainly notice the cost of those silly ideas ;-)

Love / Hot Polish girls in clubs - why don't they dance/talk with the most attractive men only? [148]

Excellent answer, JustysiaS.

To add to it, Polish chivalry requires civilized way of addressing ladies; and saying sorries even in the case the lady was not 100% right; one who forgets observing that deserves a small punch in his mug.