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Why are cars so expensive in Poland ?


todiak 3 | 10
10 May 2011  #1
i have looked on the internet for cars in pl my god so expensive why is that
is it better to take right hand drive over and then convert it to left
does anyone know what it would cst to do this
Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
10 May 2011  #2
Buy a car in Norway or Denmark instead :-D
Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
10 May 2011  #4
In Norway and Denmark, so-called "registration tax" may easily be equal to the value of the new car itself and is never depreciated... This often doubles the price of already expensive cars. In Poland, the fuel is almost the cheapest in the EU. Everything has to be put in the right perspective, everything balances.

Some story to cheer up Todiak. An article from the Norwegian press:

OBAMA'S TAX SHOCK
At the time of publishing this article, Norway was awaiting the state visit of President Barack Obama. The American President (the article reads) usually takes his limo to any country visited, and to act right -- he orders registering the limo in given country.

The Norwegian tax authority made tax calculation to register Obama's limousine:

1. Car weight tax (approx. 8 tonnes): 1,200,000 NOK
2. Engine power tax (approx. 450 HP): 600,000 NOK
3. Ecology tax (over 1 kilogram of CO2 per 1 km): 2,200,000 NOK
4. Scrapping tax: 1,300 NOK only
The total tax would be approximately NOK 4,000,000, equvalent to PLN 2,000,000 or USD 717,000 at that time

Just look to the ecological tax itself. One needs to remember all those ecological nonsense had been supported by the U.S. Pres. own party and advisors. Were Obama really charged with that tax, the U.S. tax-payer would certainly notice the cost of those silly ideas ;-)
wildrover 98 | 4,452
10 May 2011  #5
I need to buy a Mercedes sprinter van , to move all the contents of my Polish farm to my new home in Russia.....they are about half the price in the UK as they are in Poland , the only problem being the steering wheel on the wrong side , not a problem for me , but hopefully it will still sell ok in Moscow....Cars in Moscow are even more expensive than Polish ones...
THE HITMAN - | 236
10 May 2011  #6
Everything has to be put in the right perspective, everything balances.

WHAT ABOUT POLISH EARNINGS. DO THEY EQUATE WITH THE REST OF EUROPE ?
I don,t think so. And it,s not only cars or petrol that,s more expensive, most commodities in Poland are over priced. Do you want to talk about electricity, gas, telephones, clothing etc, etc ?

Start a thread on the topic, I,ll be glad to add my two pennies worth.
wildrover 98 | 4,452
10 May 2011  #7
WHAT ABOUT POLISH EARNINGS. DO THEY EQUATE WITH THE REST OF EUROPE ?

There is something wrong somewhere , when wages are so low , and yet cars , among other things are so dam expensive in Poland....

Its good news for Poles that want to make a bit of dosh though...you can fly to the UK , buy a car , drive it to Polska , and sell it for parts or for conversion to left hand drive.... A Polish friend of mine makes a living this way....
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,098
10 May 2011  #8
my god so expensive why is that

Nowadays they are less expensive than in earlier times :)
wildrover 98 | 4,452
10 May 2011  #9
Yes... not so long ago a Polish mans dream was to be able to have a Maluch...now they all seem to be driving about in big expensive suv,s .. So somethings changed...
OP todiak 3 | 10
10 May 2011  #10
what does it cost on average in poland for conversion
THE HITMAN - | 236
10 May 2011  #11
Yes... not so long ago a Polish mans dream was to be able to have a Maluch...now they all seem to be driving about in big expensive suv,s .. So somethings changed...

I think the question we should be asking is ............ So this is your profession or this is your job, so what do you do on the quiet ?
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,098
10 May 2011  #12
what does it cost on average in poland for conversion

It is about 3000zł (labour)
wildrover 98 | 4,452
10 May 2011  #13
what does it cost on average in poland for conversion

It depends on the car , some are easier to convert than others , and it depends who is doing the conversion , and how good it is....
delphiandomine 83 | 17,531
11 May 2011  #14
WHAT ABOUT POLISH EARNINGS. DO THEY EQUATE WITH THE REST OF EUROPE ?

Yes.

It's quite common in cities like Berlin to see people employed under a so-called "minijob" - paying 400 euro a month. In Poznan, you'd have to be a blithering idiot if you couldn't get 1,600zl netto a month after graduating.

most commodities in Poland are over priced. Do you want to talk about electricity, gas, telephones, clothing etc, etc ?

Electricity reflects the real cost. Likewise with gas. Telephony is dirt cheap (the phones are unsubsidised, true - but that's no bad thing) compared to the cost of the infrastructure (which is about 15% less than in Western Europe). Clothing isn't cheap, but who the hell wants to buy cheap clothes anyway, made in some sweat shop?

I'm really not sure why people think Poland should be much cheaper than Western Europe when the economics don't add up at all.
wildrover 98 | 4,452
11 May 2011  #15
I think the question we should be asking is ............ So this is your profession or this is your job, so what do you do on the quiet ?

No , i don,t make a living out of shipping cars to Poland.... I have brought a few over for Polish friends but i did not make any money out of them , just charged them for the fuel and ferry costs...

I don,t do anything on the quiet , especially if i go to work on my Harley...

At the moment i make enough money to eat and pay my bills from helping a friend build custom Harley,s...

I won,t have a proper job until i go to Moscow...
THE HITMAN - | 236
11 May 2011  #16
It depends on the car , some are easier to convert than others , and it depends who is doing the conversion , and how good it is....

Yeh, don,t forget. A conversion requires left hand drive dashboard, seats, mirrors etc. so the price will fluctuate. Tip ? Get your components from France.

I don,t do anything on the quiet

Hey !! I was referring to the Poles, not you.
wildrover 98 | 4,452
11 May 2011  #17
Hey !! I was referring to the Poles, not you.

AHA...thats a different story....lots of Poles are doing all sorts of stuff on the quiet...!
THE HITMAN - | 236
11 May 2011  #18
you'd have to be a blithering idiot if you couldn't get 1,600zl netto a month after graduating.

I will pay you that sort of money for cleaning bogs in England per week without graduating.
Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
11 May 2011  #19
Buy me a pint of beer at an English pub (not a private club) for a pound thirty, The Hitman ;-)
delphiandomine 83 | 17,531
11 May 2011  #20
I will pay you that sort of money for cleaning bogs in England per week without graduating.

Nice of you to compare Polish graduates to toilet cleaners.

Perhaps economics eludes you, but don't forget - the UK had ...somewhat of a head start. And heck, you have to live in the UK for that money - a cold, overcrowded (in Englandshire, anyway) place with some shocking problems.
PolskiMoc 4 | 324
11 May 2011  #21
I thought Germans flocked to Polish dealerships in border towns because Polish cars were actually cheaper?
gumishu 11 | 4,953
11 May 2011  #22
mostly they were cheaper because they were models stripped of some en vogue new toys
convex 20 | 3,978
11 May 2011  #23
I thought Germans flocked to Polish dealerships in border towns because Polish cars were actually cheaper?

The zloty/euro went on a wild ride in 2008 going from 3.25 to 5 in the span of a couple of months. That made car prices (and everything else for that matter) very attractive.


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