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Ant63   
7 Jan 2012
Life / What is wrong with Poznan? [197]

My only critisism of Poznan is the footpaths but once you have busted up your big toe a couple of times, you learn.

Oh yes I almost forgot the learning curve with trams. Hold on tight people or you might be putting your hand in a suprised persons lap in an attempt at not falling on the floor. Young ladies don't smile when you do this. Very embarrassing.
Ant63   
7 Jan 2012
Off-Topic / When do you teach a Polish \ English child a second language? [8]

I know this is an old post but my experience may be a useful addition.

I'm English my partner is Polish. Her two children arrived August 10 aged 4 and 6. Not a word of English between them and Mums English was survival only. My Polish was zero.. Recipe for disaster in some peoples eyes. The first 3 months were hilarious. Missunderstandings between mum and me. Children doing the opposite of what I said. We made a decision from day 1 that as the children were going to school in England we would help them as much as possible by having English TV for them. Introduce them to English neighbours immediately. But my partner would always speak to them in Polish. She did not want them to forget their native tongue.

I played games like throwing a ball to them and shouting out an English word initially which they would repeat. We made it fun for them. They made friends with two similar aged children in the first week and although they were speaking different languages there were very few conflicts and rarely were we asked to explain something. The youngest child suprised me after two weeks saying "Wheres Mummy". She was repeating something I said to her 3 or 4 times a day. Interestingly it was said in the correct context which meant she understood the question.

After a month the youngest child could understand a lot of what I was saying to her. For example. Can you take this to the living room. Simple stuff. The older child had started school and was totaly immersed in English. It was a tough time for him but everyday we spoke with his teacher and showed the school we were interested and they in return helped a little more than would be expected. They were great.

After 3 months it was possible to have a conversation with both children in English. Very broken but perfectly understandable. After 4 months it was clear the youngest child was way ahead and both children would translate for mum on occassions. Mums English also improved considerably and bizarre concoctions no longer emerged from the kitchen. Most importantly, no one got stressed if they didn't understand we always laughed about things.

Unfortunately the youngest child was illegaly retained in Poland for the next six months but thats another story.

The eldest childs English improved daily from xmas onwards and it became possible for him to talk to Mum in English and Polish simultaneosly without any visible stalling. By March 2011 is was becoming clear his language of choice was English. He would always start a conversation in English while Mum always replied in Polish. Damned confusing for me although my undestanding of the Polish language by now was such that I could understand what was being talked about. My Polish was limited to a few words.

By june the eldest child would only speak Polish when asked too. His English was still not fluent but his understanding was pretty good. We collected the youngest child back in June and were a little concerned that what she had learned would be forgotten. Literally within a week she was talking again and expanding what she knew daily. After a month she was speaking English while asleep.

By September this year it was becoming apparent to Mum that they were losing their native language. The youngest was talking in her sleep in English. Sometimes the children would do the opposite of what was asked and their pronunciation was taking on an English twang. Sometimes they did not understand words. This we both consider a problem but we both believe that as there education is in English, we should prioritise this but we ensure they spend time with other Polish children when possible. Unfortunately they tend to speak in English with them though.

16 months after they arrived, the youngest child is near fluent and can explain the difference between witch and which in a logical manner. She is an incredibly fast learner and is spelling out words and reading them back to a higher level than some of her English peers. The oldest child is finding it more difficult but he is getting there slowly. We still take an active interest at school almost daily and because we show we care they reciprocate by giving him extra help. I have found my making the extra effort at the school, we are both respected, and are efforts are rewarded with the teacher taking an active interest in the child. It's very obvious that some people believe this is the schools problem not theres. Yes I am pointing my finger at some of the Polish community in England here.

My conclusion to this is if you are prepared to put the time and effort in yourself, you can make it a lot easier on your children. This after all is a traumatic time for them. The younger the child is, the easier it is for them to learn. Girls are easier to inspire than boys and are more interested in learning. They will lose some of there native language but put in a situation where they are re-immersed within that language again, they will quickly recover. Pressurising them in any way is negative. It all comes naturally and you should embrace their new skills and give them as much encouragement as you possibly can. You never know, they may be teaching you soon.
Ant63   
7 Jan 2012
UK, Ireland / Polish and English law on child access? [14]

You do not need a Polish Lawyer. You will be wasting your money.

This comes under Brussels II agreement. A foreign court must enforce the decision made by the court in Poland.

Go to a UK solicitor they will get the order enforced in a UK court. The UK courts always abide by this, unlike the Polish courts.

If you want further information contact me by PM. It may be pertinent to do this as this man needs to protect his position NOW. I am not a solicitor but I have a lot of personal experience in this field.
Ant63   
3 Jan 2012
Law / Poland's Zloty 43% undervalued [30]

The current level is just ridiculous

It makes me wonder how people survive on the chronically low wages it appears the majority recieve.
Ant63   
1 Jan 2012
Law / I need to stay here in Poland to see my child. [18]

Divorces are not that easy to get

Its not so bad now, it's only when one muppet wants to show it's the other persons fault. Then it's a long drawn out process wasting a whole load of tax zlt. Daft system if you ask me but I'm not Polish.

As an alternative, and you have to move fast with this one, scoot on home and start a divorce from your own country. Voila, you are in the driving seat and you will definately get a fairer deal. This assumes she has not started the divorce in Poland and your home country is Brussells II signatory. It works on the court first seised having juristiction. You will problably have to stay home though, as it could be considered as shopping for a better settlement. If she has started the divorce, you may still have time as the Polish process is incredibly slow, so even if she has started it is entirely possible the court would not be seised until a couple of months have passed.

Of course a Polish lawyer will tell you you can't get divorced outside of Poland but thats only because they are not aware of, or have not read Brussells II or cannot rationalize it with Polish law. It's there in Black and White though and it works.

Might be worth remembering this information for some forumites. Ya never know.
Ant63   
24 Dec 2011
Life / Why is Polish Christmas on the 24th? [87]

It appears there is no consensous of opinion amongst the forum members, and information you can find on the Internet.

This is my first Polish xmas in the UK and all I can say is so far I'm appalled by the whole charade. Presents give 3 weeks before, presents every day for the last week. Relatives competing against the mother by trying to buy bigger and better every day. Miserable brothers and sisters (adults) concerned they are getting less. Controlling mother in law(Grrrr!). A display of everything that is wrong with people. Where the hell Santa Claus comes into this nightmare, god only knows.

I'll miss my Romano British christmas day when we all wear paper hats for lunch to demonstrate the fact everyone is equal for one day and the children are happy with the presents they open on christmas morning.
Ant63   
23 Dec 2011
Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]

However, I've already explained why the title is ungrammatical, and why I suspect that the OP may not necessarily be a native speaker.

The fact it's not gramatically correct in this instance confirms he is English.

I'm gone too.

EDIT HERE

Sorry will add this as Vincent responded so quickly

calling

Calling in this instance is exactly as described before "calling names". Basically it's just lazy speaking that has evolved as part of the language. TBH I don't agree with speaking in this way but it is prevelant in general language today. You can still understand what is being said by the context "calling" is used in.
Ant63   
23 Dec 2011
Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]

apart from the OP.......if he is a native speaker Im a 12 foot Dutchman with a blue arse.

For xmas you will be a 12ft durchman with a blue arse

You just need to look at the title - he's clearly translated "wyzwajÄ…" as "calling", but hasn't changed the sentence appropriately ;)

He just omitted the word "names" after Polish girl.

Sorry Vincent but I must add you to the list also. He omitted nothing.

Another 12ft Dutchman.

As a native speaker of English, I can confirm this is actually English. Try reading "On the Road" by Jack Kerouac for an alternative take on the English language. It may broaden your understanding of a very complicated language, few master, including me.

Are you teachers by any chance?

Have a nice day tomorrow.
Ant63   
22 Dec 2011
Love / How many Polish men are Violent how much is domestic abuse reported. [129]

Are there any laws in Poland that make it mandatory to report kids being abused?

It's one thing reporting abuse, it's another getting a court to do anything about it. From my experience the court wants prima faci evidence and if they don't get it they will do nothing. Again from experience this is dealt with by the family court and one court will do something and one will not. There is no consensous. Young judges possibly the problem. Erring on the side of caution but not the right side. Unfortunately any appeal process to a higher court will take 3 months. Here you will get an older more experienced judge who will look at things more thoroughly and likely put the interests of the child first.

As an example of how long things take in Poland, if International Social Services contacts the Polish equivelant, they do not expect a reply for 6 months. Thats 12.5% of a four year olds life.

The current Kurator system is laughable.
Ant63   
22 Dec 2011
Life / Why is Polish Christmas on the 24th? [87]

Christmas Eve

Ah! so it's her terminoly thats incorrect. Christmas day is still the 25th then.

What is the relationship between giving gifts and christmas eve then? I am not relgious but assumed the gifts were something to do with the three kings.

I am only asking out of interest as I do not want to start a religous debate.
Ant63   
20 Dec 2011
UK, Ireland / Legal aid eligibility for a Polish woman (British father child support) [17]

Good luck on the legal aid. It takes months if you are a decent, non criminal human being. If you are a crim it's instant almost. What they actually do is play it out to the point that you either stump up yourself or give up all hope. That's my partners experience anyway.
Ant63   
11 Dec 2011
Life / School starting age in Poland [4]

most important to me is that my kids learn to read well, enjoy it and maintain the habits for a lifetime

I couldn't agree more with this.

writing in cursev is learned first

I guess it is so they get into the habit and not the habit of printing.

I think we are the opposite way around to you as we have one 5 year old in reception and a 7 year old in Year 3 in England. No problem for the younger one but a very steep hill to climb for the older one.

Is the percentage of children going to Zerowka high or low?
Ant63   
11 Dec 2011
Life / School starting age in Poland [4]

My partner and I are having a discussion about school starting ages. She believes the starting age in Poland is 7yrs old although there was a move to 6 years old but this has been recinded. Is this correct?

I am personally interested in peoples opinions on school starting age and the benefits of starting early or the negative effects of the same.
Ant63   
9 Dec 2011
Love / Married in Poland, now wanting divorce, does she have rights to half my earnings? [67]

English women have their faults but man hating isn't one of them. Polish and English women ... no comparison!

I do actually have a deal of experience with both varieties and I have to say the English ones are easier to understand but far more devious. The Polish ones get found out faster. The English ones may have had more practise :)
Ant63   
7 Dec 2011
Love / How many Polish men are Violent how much is domestic abuse reported. [129]

I think the major difference is that people can speak more openly about these issues in the UK as a whole. Domestic violence figures are without doubt miss leading when you consider how many women use this as a ploy in divorce. The same happens in Poland. The fact is it is unlikely that "the truth" is unlikely to be available.

What can I do to change things in Poland. Nothing. It's up to you guys to stop sweeping it under the carpet. For me it's no crusade, I'm just bitter about your judicial system and the length of time it takes things to resolve, what are in fact, seriously damaging things for children. My cause is not noble, as I have no cause, and I am no activist, just a plain old Joe, shocked at your judiciary.
Ant63   
7 Dec 2011
Love / How many Polish men are Violent how much is domestic abuse reported. [129]

I have had many discussions with lawyers in Poland on the issue of domestic violence. Most of them seemed to believe it is not taken seriously in Poland. Following a conversation with one lawyer, I would tend to believe this to be true.

He told me of a lawyer friend of his who married and then experienced physical violence. She went to court 3 times to try and protect herself. After the third attempt, the husband killed her. The judge who had heard all three cases said she should have made a stronger case. I would like to think this judge would err on the side of caution in the future, but who 's to know. Of course mistakes are made everywhere.

Beating children does appear to be acceptable by the majority in Poland. My partners child suffered the belt aged 5. Something I find difficult to reconcile, but conversations I have had with Polish men usually bring out, "its normal in Poland". I know the law changed in 2010 and an anti smacking law was introduced. It would be interesting to see how many convictions there have been since it's introduction. I think in Poland what happens behind closed doors stays behind closed doors which is why it is so suprising when children from a "a nice quiet family" get murdered along with their mother.

The 1965 Family and Guardianship Code, although forward thinking in some respects, really gave adults a get out of jail free card with respect to child abuse.
Ant63   
3 Dec 2011
News / Greed rules the world; Czempinski (Poland's former Intelligence chief) arrested [21]

I have no doubt about that. I was only curious and found a different spelling. Thanks for the lesson.
Don't be so snappy.

What she actually meant was "AGGRO" unless she is much younger than I imagine and not learned to spell correctly like the younger generation of my country. Of course you can find a definition for 'AGRO' on the internet. The same as you will find many other miss spelt words. They are just there for the those unable to spell correctly. Damned liberals.
Ant63   
3 Dec 2011
Life / Do Polish people have a temper? [53]

Jeez you don't want to upset your Polish mother in Law. I did. Ooops! The destruction was almost total. Things you wouldn't dream of throwing get thrown. The British Battle Axe has nothing on a Polish Mother in Law. :)
Ant63   
3 Dec 2011
Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]

violetta my polish girlfriend

I guess as an Englishman he doesn't know 'W' in Polish translates 'V' in English as I did'nt 7 years ago. Reading his post again, I see, as I saw the first time, it is not his problem, but he is showing concern for her and the abuse from her fellow countrymen. It's just a typical negative Polish reaction. A bit like asking a Pole how they are. Poles apart from asking the same question to an English person.
Ant63   
3 Dec 2011
Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]

Like said in other comment soon find out who the p r i c k s are and the real people and guess which box you fall into ? REJECT BOX

Welcome to the kingdom of Polishisauraus Penisauraus. Neanderthal Man still exists here with the odd dinosaur, combined with a little low self esteem and paranoia.

Viola is spelt Wiola.

the "Angol"
Ant63   
2 Dec 2011
Law / Search Engine Optimisation in Poland - the same SEO rules apply? [7]

+ Location was irrelevant, traffic would come from Asia, Europe, America

It's totally relevent and a good proportion of your traffic will always come from the three locations mentioned. They are massive. In particular the Asians are making great use of the internet to search out potential customers. Just look at how google works now. Local this. Local that. In a way, unless you are a known International Brand, it is a bit like bricks and mortar, location, location and location.If you haven't signed up for Webmaster Tools do so.

+ SEO was irrelevant, I did not bother with keywords, I did not submit my site to any engine, I was too busy working on the content. Nevertheless, my site was soon indexed and it was quite highly rated.

Google hasn't used keywords in Meta tags for a long time. That kind of SEO died with the keyword stuffers. Remember the days you searched for chocalate and every site was a prn site. They killed keywords. True SEO will be gone in 5 years as Social Media sites will dictate search rankings which is why Google has invested heavily in +1.

+ Visitors coming from google search were usually random, one-time visitors, who mistook my site by something else, or who did not know how to precisely specify their search directive.

This can be converted to useful visitors by taking a look at your Meta Descriptions which is what appears below the link to your site in Googles results. Writing good landing pages with relevant content and good Description tags is critical.

+ Most, if not only, valuable traffic was coming via references from other, somewhat related, web pages

Thats exactly what I aim for but this takes time to evolve and relies on good content from your site. There are subtle ways of speeding this up but like anything to get a return you need to work hard and add a bit of lady luck.
Ant63   
2 Dec 2011
Law / Search Engine Optimisation in Poland - the same SEO rules apply? [7]

And why .pl domains so damned expensive?

Something I have found highly beneficial with SEO is hosting location. For example I used 1and1.couk for a period of time assuming they were located in the UK. WRONG and they weren't very good either. When I moved my .co.uk sites to true UK hosting then my search engine rankings improved dramatically. I did research this first of course. I am guessing hosting in Poland would be on a par with quality UK Hosting as regards price. Expensive but worth it.
Ant63   
15 Nov 2011
Life / How Safe Are the Polish Cities? [179]

I did have my money stolen once on a tram in Warsaw but have never felt myself to be in any physical danger.

So why hand over your money?