Married in Poland, now wanting divorce, does she have rights to half my earnings?

Hello,

My wife and I got married in Poland in 2009 and now we are planning on splitting up. We both live in Poland but in separate apartments. The other day she threatened that she was going to go for half of my earnings & belongings in the divorce settlement. Funny thing is that I currently am unemployed. I guess she is figuring that soon I won't be unemployed, you know, she's planning her future out. So, does she have rights to half of what I own and perhaps will earn?

Thanks,
Synaptic

Kids involved?

Only half....??? are you sure she is Polish....?

No kids are involved.

No kids makes it easier but she can still come after you for maintenance or alimony as they call it.

familylaw.pl

An overview.....

If you need detailed help I can ask my B-in-Law, he does corporate law but will know someone that does family law.

Ed,

Thank you so much. I will look over the link you provided and get back to you.

Regards,
Synaptic

Which nationality are you?

She will make a play for everything, be careful! It's kind of nice that so many were under communism so that they couldn't money grab. Now the cat is out the bag, there is no looking back! Capitalism is rife!

I am American.

So I guess, she believes there is a hold over you because of residency?

@seanus Hahaha. Everything? I own a nice hiking back pack, a tent, a laptop, hand me down clothes, shoes, a usb microphone, old headphones ... eh that is it. I don't have a job. The only way I was getting by and supporting us was because I was receiving financial support from my parents back in the US, $600 a month. So what can she really get from me? I don't understand how this is going to play out.

@warszawski, Well, yeah she does have power over me in this way. She could have me kicked out of Poland.

I think, like in Scotland, the presumption is for 50/50 but they get to keep things like cars if they have been making payments for them. The man tends to get stung without a pre-nuptial agreement. My advice, sell off what you don't need and keep it hush hush.

Can,t you get her fixed up with some rich American....??

Hehehe, offload her, you mean? Chance would be a fine thing. Some need to be kicked to the kerb/curb but it's easier said than done.

As far as I am aware, no she can't, unless you have been physical with her.

@seanus Well, like I said, I own really nothing of value except for my laptop. It's not like she could reach into my parents bank account. (they support both she and me now)

@wildrover Well, she already has a new boyfriend who I found out she slept with already. Crazy! And can you believe she asked me to get her US citizenship? Yeah like I really want to spend another 2 or more years with her. She's nuts if she thinks she is going to get that out of me.

@warszawski Interesting you mention physical abuse. During our 4 year relationship and 2 year marriage she was the one who physically abused me. I put up with it all this time. Even though this is true, how would I ever be able to prove that abuse?

Well, take great delight in telling her you are a man of slender means :) :)

At the Warsaw Law faculty, one day a week the trainee lawyers, take on cases and give advice to people that can't afford legal fees, I guess you have no job and your parents are paying you less than minimum wage, here is a link give it a go: uw.edu.pl/en/page.php/about_uw/faculties.html#law

All cases are supervised by a qualified law expert, I am sure your case will be a novelty for them.

Yeah.... i can believe that....

Some women just have this instinct to grab all they can when they decide that the relationship is over...

Hey , i am an Englishman who is just about to Jeep it over to Moscow to marry my Russian lady....

Wish me luck....

Wildy when are you doing the off?

@seanus Right, in this case it's a good thing to be poor.

@warszawski Thank you so much for this link. I will definitely contact them. I need all the help I can as she told me she will have a lawyer (thanks to her new boyfriend being connected). Still I don't think she has a clue what she is getting herself into if she wants to fight me on this. I don't own a dam thing. Anyways, thanks a bunch.

@wildrover How long have you known her? Online/phone relationship or have you met her in person? If so how much time have you physically spent with her already?

Have a dig at her. Tell her that you'll strip her of her lace panties collection.

My Russian petachock ( piglet ) is up to her neck in sorting out her students who are waiting the results of their final exams right now.... but as soon as she has sorted them out she is going to go to our lawyers to see how its all going...

Hopefully my letter of invitation to Moscow will be sorted , and then it will be sent to me....

Then i drive down to Poznan , get my visa....and i am offski....

Funny enough , on sunday this really amazing Polish girl waved my Harley down and wanted a ride...

Girls.....please wear mini skirts whenever riding bikes...its not a problem if you hitch em up to your waist as this girl did.... but no....i did not give her my phone number despite being asked...

Actually, in his case - as I understand it, once the divorce is finalised, his residence permit will no longer be valid (as the decision will be made on the basis of marriage - so a divorce will annul this) and the 90 day clock will start.

Get this settled OP, use that link with the free lawyers for a start.

Then, the hell out of Poland. You're wasting your time there. And the women are not as great as all these foreigners make them out to be. Capitalism has spoiled them rotten.

What did u do for a living in Poland before u became unemployed??

If divorce is becouse of her fault she shouldn't get nothing. Question is about documents : this divorce is caused by her unfaithfulness or by incompatibility of characters...

Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

Law doesn't work like that.


Ok, then I gotta ask. Like Poland much?

Because if You don't and there's nothing that ties You down here ( no job ) my advice is as follows.

Hoof it. Scram. Go on a lam. Get the hell out of Dodge.

Why?

A Polish family court is a place notoriously unfriendly towards foreigners. 9/10 judges over there happen to be female.

So You'll basically have Your wife crying to another older Polish woman about what kind of a ******* You were and the other woman nodding in sympathy, then handing down the verdict.

In that light her threats about taking at least half don't sound that funny any more.


Yeah and we all here know what that means. Now the problem is how said Polish family court is going to approach this and I'll tell You right now how it will go down:

Your ex will cry and say You're a bastard that never supported her and how poor and broke ( she needs to be poor and broke for the judge to grant her and not the kids alimony in Poland ) she is because of it, said old female judge will nod in sympathy, then You'll be asked a dozen and one questions about Your education, previous work experience, etc. Then said judge, who was raised in communism by the way, will, I **** You not, determine how much she thinks an American of Your education and work experience can earn, then she will pass the alimony verdict based on that assumption.

Again, if You're shaking Your head in disbelief I can only say I **** You not, I've seen it happen.

That judgement will be executable up to the point of them actually going after the salary You earn in U.S.

So take my advice and I'm sure a U.S. lawyer with a good head on his shoulders will figure a way for You to divorce her out of the U.S.


This case might be challenging for a Polish qualified lawyer, not to mention poor students doing cases between exams.


She indeed is working hard towards fitting the stereotypes usually associated with Polish ( and other Eastern European ) women.

I wouldn't in general marry without a pre-nupt, especially if my "wife-to-be" was raised in that part of the world.

Tell her to pound sand regarding U.S. citizenship.


Best of luck, wildrover.

Tell her to get lost and then disappear. Women like this are the ones who give the rest of us a bad name. The only way you would have to part with any cash is if there were children to support, which there aren't. What, is she disabled that she cannot go to work to support herself? "Wimmin" like her make me sick.

Unfortunately that might not always be the case in a Polish family court if a male ( on top of that - a foreigner ) gets sued by a local female.

I mean, we're talking about a country where a national holiday could be announced each and every time a father gets full custody ( that's how rarely that happens ).

If she makes the judge belief that she has no means of supporting herself she will receive alimony from her ex-husband, despite them having no kids.

That sounds crazy Midas....I think I meant SHOULD not WOULD.
Definitely the guy should take his laptop and cheap headphones and head for the mountains.....