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Natasa   
15 Aug 2010
Life / Polish people and Politeness [84]

Although Russians are a bit more aggressive.

Level of their aggressiveness for me was just fine ;)

I unfortunately never visited Poland, but Poles that I observed/met during vacations seemed really polite and friendly.
Natasa   
18 Aug 2010
News / Newsweek's The World's Best Countries (Poland ranked 29) [128]

Best Countries in the World
Best Low-Income Nation: Albania

(Honorable mention: best education)

Albania rarely makes headlines and seems an unlikely model for other countries, but this new democracy actually outperforms all other low-income countries. Among the countries in its category Albania consistently ranks highest in education, health, and quality of life. Nearly 99 percent of Albanians are literate. Despite being a citizen of one the poorest countries in Europe, the average Albanians can expect to live until 78 and the average Albanian woman until 81--a pretty good statistic considering that the average citizen of wealthy Germany will live until only 79.

Best Political Environment

Large size: Germany

Australia is a winner on many fronts, including its democratic freedom and voter participation, making it No. 1 in this category among medium-size nations. And Germany tops the list for large countries with the best political environment.

Interesting details:

1.Albanian economy and German politics are new role models.
2.Albanians live longer than Germans.
Natasa   
25 Aug 2010
Genealogy / Polish person's average height? [210]

But then again, the Dutch are the tallest ppl in the world.

According to wikipedia they are not.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

" ....In the late nineteenth century, the Netherlands was a land renowned for its short population, but today it has the second tallest average in the world, with young men averaging 183 cm (6'0 ft) tall and in Europe are only shorter than the peoples of the Dinaric Alps (a section largely within the former Yugoslavia), where males average 185.6 cm (6 ft 1.1 in) tall. The Dinarians and the Dutch are now well known in Europe for extreme tallness...."

Netherlands 1.808 m (5 ft 11 in) 1.678 m (5 ft 6 in) 20+ Self-reported 2008 [45]
Netherlands 1.843 m (6 ft 1⁄2 in) 1.702 m (5 ft 7 in) 25-34 Self-reported 2008 [45

Dinaric Alps 1.856 m (6 ft 1 in) 1.710 m (5 ft 7 1⁄2 in) 17 Measured 2005

Like it matters...
Natasa   
11 Sep 2010
Life / The "Rudification" Of Society - Is This Happening In Poland As Well? [146]

In the West, with the event of the rise of Right to higher levels, society has become more rude and compassion (as far as I know supposed to be a Christian value) has virtually disappeared: hatred and fear roam the minds of the masses and for the first time since WW2 it seems this phaenomena is more evident than any other property.

Country I lived in was in many ways more humane.
Now, a giant step back.

But it doesn't look like The end of History ;)

infamous Geert Wilders,

he is funny. if somebody doesn't take that crap seriously.

. I was just wondering if this was happening in other societies, like the Polish one.

Why are you wondering, it's normal for class systems. Lower middle class always fails to see the reason for it's existential problems( being previously manipulated) moving the anger and animosity to weaker ones , usually foreigners, minorities...Hence the success of characters like Wilders.

Let's forget about the label slapping, that him from the 'Right' did that or her from the 'Left' said that.

I think that that is so basic in our nature, and maybe the most important criteria for gathering and grouping of ppl. Even here.
I don't think it's really possible to put that aside. (ideal, but not probable)
Natasa   
13 Sep 2010
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [263]

From link down:

First many stupid questions to professionals:
"....acording to eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

Serbs have 7% of haplogroup K+T (which both I assume is about K2), however in your statistics it is not mentioned.
Does it mean it didnot appear in your samples? How large sample you do have for Serbia?"

"......According to link above K2 is very rare in other european countries. So I wonder if geographic trajectory of people carrying this group in europe can be decoded from samples?

Of course Serbs having K2 doesnot mean that haplogroup came with them, but could be interesting to research..."

Now, answer from ppl who did reaserches:

"Post from iGENEA to 06.11.2008
Again, it is very important to DIFFER betweenn Haplogroup and Primitive Tribe. We have persons with germanic tribes, who belong to I2a and also persons with illyrian or slavian origins from the same haplogroup. Both groups represent different times and a causal conclusion is impossible.

So please, stop posting the same question in 5 forums at the same time. I will answer your question. Please, be careful with these sources, and use genetic studies to get reliable information. Wikipedia is a wonderful instrument, but sources are not always verified.

Remark: Haplogroups cannot give you an informations about the primitive tribes of a country or about the origins composition of a region!! This is really important. You will find a lot of theories in the internet about connections between haplogroups and tribes or betwenn haplogroups and "races", but this connection is incorrect."

Different data there.

Personally, I don't care about it. Genetic biologists would tell you that this DOESN'T MEAN a sh1t (who said that this is slav and this german DNA, how they know that? those samples had to be mixed, what date in time is used to determine when REAL slavs and REAL germans lived before they started mixing, it's not that simple to interpretate this results so, careful!!).

I asked.

Always phenotype before genotype, what comes out of X possibilities is more important than the DNA code itself (on this "racial" level at least).

Oh, and they told me also that mixing more different genomes is improving human race, sth called genetic reprogramming, look for it, I didn't.

I think this interest in DNA?? goes hand in hand with significant political inclination to the right in Europe.
Natasa   
13 Sep 2010
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [263]

"You will find a lot of theories in the internet about connections between haplogroups and tribes or betwenn haplogroups and "races", but this connection is incorrect."

Paulina are they mistaking here then?

I have an impression that it's rather Serbs who like to stress how Slavic they are.

Serbia is part of Europe. Inclining to the right exists in Serbia too. You are mixing political with geographical concepts.

I don't think you are right there. As far as I've noticed even this forum is clearly showing polarization between two wider groups , those who feel closer to Germans (pragmatic ones), and the other group, aware of their origins (Slavic in historical, not biological sense).

Pan Slavic ideas exist to a certain degree everywhere Slavic people live.
Natasa   
13 Sep 2010
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [263]

Paulina, they are really angry about this way of reasoning.

Typical question, has to do with this topic:
"Post from Bojan to 07.11.2008
Dominant haplogroup among Slavic populations is R1a. Second most important haplogroup present among all Slavic countries is I2A (former I1b).

Interesting is that R1a (see fig. 5) has maximal frequency in north in Poland, while its variation is maximal in south in Balkans.

Significantly higher variation does pinpoint to groups that are origin of groups with lower variation.

If R1a has arrived on Balkan with Slavs, then genetically, according to variations given in this study, those Balkan Slavs must have been the parental group of all other Slavs.

Another logical explanation would be that R2a did in fact spread from Balkan to north-east all the way to Scandinavia. (Czech and Slovak and Poland seems to have lower variations then Ukraina, Russia, or Denmark and Skandinavia). The higher variation zone is in fact in correlation with position of Venedae tribe on maps of Europe euratlas.com/history_europe/europe_map_0300.htm

I2A variation indicates dwelling for a long time in Panonia, Czechia, Slovakia and south Poland before going southwards to Balkan.

Slavic is thus mixture of two primal tribes: R1a going at some point in time northwards from Balkan and I2A going southwards from

Panonian plane, Czech/Slovak and South Poland.

Riddle is when those migrations took place...
They could took tens thousands of years, or they could have been done in much much less time....
Were carriers of I2A to Balkan pre-Illyric tribes, Illyrians, or Serb/Croat tribes?
Answer is in genetics of Balkan archeological sites.... or in genetic study of present populations on much finer level then one of haplogroups..."

"Post from iGENEA to 07.11.2008
Again, again and again: A connection between haplogroups and primitive tribes doesn't exist!!!! So please, stop to distribue here wrong informations, these would only disturb other forums and conduct to missunderstanding.

I already explained you the reason because haplogroups don't depend from the primitive tribe. Of course you will find a lot of such connections (R1b1c1c is only for Vikings f.ex.), but they don't come from scientists. All these connection are not correct and you must be careful, when you diffuse informations, which are just speculations and not reliable informations.

You told me, you already know, that primitive tribes don't depend from haplogroups, but as I see here, you didn't tell me the true. Your theories about slavs are a mixture from R1a and I2a will be correct in the majority of cases, but the causal connection is totally wrong. Because a slav has haplogroup R1a and another slav haplogroup I2a, you cannot say: Slavs are a mixture of these haplogroup is a WRONG CONCLUSION AND NOT SCIENTIFICAL.
Natasa   
17 Sep 2010
Life / Polish are some of the best educated in the world [35]

The IQ doesn't measure things like creativity, charisma .. so forth. Sense of humour?

There are significant correlations between general intelligence and creativity, also with a sense for humor, charisma too, ppl actually fall for IQ. Mostly those surveys are not known, ppl are not interested in that.Same factor (general intelligence) is responsible for convergent intelligence (scientific, one solution for the problem), and divergent (more solutions for one problem, creativity). Preferred way of solving problems is something you develop during childhood.

People prefer to believe those are different traits (makes talent divine feature), but think if it's possible to be stupid with good sense for humor, or charismatic and stupid, what is with art? How can somebody unaware of his reality create something with artistic value?

I never saw that (only those kids who paint, but their expression lacks meaning which makes art really art).
I don't like concept of IQ and it's abuse, but I believe that same basic capacities are behind all superior achievements (scientific or artistic).
Natasa   
17 Sep 2010
Life / Polish are some of the best educated in the world [35]

....sour grapes! ;)

I don't like it because it lacks solid scientific foundation ( it's boring really to explain all that), problems if origins and it's use are highly problematic.

It's use is to discriminate people on blurry criteria.

The best operational definition of Intelligence is that IQ is something psychological IQ instruments are measuring. That sounds really bad. They don't have a clue what exactly that concept covers, and so on....

If you are that interested in IQ I will send you some links.

sweet lemon ;)
Natasa   
23 Sep 2010
History / What was better in Poland under communism? [67]

If I put aside many easier solvable practical problems during communism (apartment, free education, health system, etc., not noticeable differences in SE status) I would say they were more fertile systems, totalitarian in less transparent way, so they were able to produce free thinkers, fresh ideas that were real opposition to those regimes, which was visible for me at least in arts like literature, movies....

Now I have to stop myself from throwing up when I try to choose a book in a bookshop. FUJ!

Solidarity is as a word and as a concept disappeared with fall of communism.
In Serbian you can rarely hear it nowadays. People are more selfish, competitive and life philosophy " Homo homini lupus est" imported from the West is dominating our minds. Souls are gone.
Natasa   
23 Sep 2010
History / What was better in Poland under communism? [67]

Maybe you're right...
What i read here about everyday behavior of older Polish generations (parents, grandparents), didn't leave that impression.

Here it was not like that (YU, SRB). For most ppl.

Maybe the difference in tradition (orthodox and catholic) from pre communist era, has something to do with that? What do you think?
;)
Natasa   
23 Sep 2010
History / What was better in Poland under communism? [67]

donoszenie

Can you explain me what does that mean?

if I use Google translate, it will surely lead me to wrong conclusions :)

What are they bleaching?
Natasa   
23 Sep 2010
History / What was better in Poland under communism? [67]

Today seems like not at all necessary institution.

"Foucault also compares modern society with Jeremy Bentham's "Panopticon" ..... Ancient prisons have been replaced by clear and visible ones, but Foucault cautions that "visibility is a trap." It is through this visibility, Foucault writes, that modern society exercises its controlling systems of power and knowledge (terms Foucault believed to be so fundamentally connected that he often combined them in a single hyphenated concept, "power-knowledge"). Increasing visibility leads to power located on an increasingly individualized level, shown by the possibility for institutions to track individuals throughout their lives. Foucault suggests that a "carceral continuum" runs through modern society, from the maximum security prison, through secure accommodation, probation, social workers, police, and teachers, to our everyday working and domestic lives. All are connected by the (witting or unwitting) supervision (surveillance, application of norms of acceptable behaviour) of some humans by others."

he died in 1984., what would he say today ;)

looking for similarities... :)
Natasa   
25 Sep 2010
Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]

I think from scientific point of view that you followed the rules for classifications:

1. categories are mutually exclusive and jointly exhaustive
2.the principle used should be essential (doubtful)

I would suggest that you use for you more essential criteria and that would be level of sexual excitement , so :

1. horny
2. little bit less horny

it looks now better.
Natasa   
25 Sep 2010
Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]

Others know that many Polish women just to like to go out and have a good time but tend not to be horny.

I was proposing this as universal classification for Southern that he can apply to all women, not just Polish.

I think I did a good job ;)
Natasa   
25 Sep 2010
Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]

Serbian girls

Serbian girls tend to babble a lot about morality and they mostly pretend that they don't like sex, so my criteria is useless.
Ask Crow.
It would be boring.

But I still don't understand what kind of division you have in mind with this serbian vs polish.
Natasa   
25 Sep 2010
Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]

This does not prevent them from wearing the shortest miniskirts and skimpy outfits.

Yes. In Serbian meat market male demand is setting those idiotic rules.
Natasa   
26 Sep 2010
Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]

Seems you should be asking yourself this question.

This is a crucial question. You mentioned fate when you described your feelings to her, I think it's your decision, to live with sexually inadequate partner and frustrate your needs. Why did you do that is for more serious conversation and different circumstances.

As we day in Greece begged

Here it's completely different, sth like it's not a good f. if you don't have to go through hell to get to the organ.(?)

We also have a saying/joke "why did I f. if I can't talk about it"( for men from Montenegro, it's mean and incorrect!)
Natasa   
27 Sep 2010
Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]

1. loaded
2. for ignoring

is one of the most common categorizations you all know very well and you can feel it as a painful doubt deep in your heart when they look at you with those innocent eyes.

I'm personally not using that one.
Natasa   
27 Sep 2010
Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]

I heard once from a girl that women are most honest at the moment when they say to a rich guy I love you. She said it in a very romantic way, with sincere warmth in her eyes.

So I understand the romantic aspects you're talking about.
Natasa   
27 Sep 2010
Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]

they have sex once in 4 months from the beginning. she was his first, he was then in his late 20 is. that has to be payed. But she is a better in trade because she pretends that she minds that fact and she doesn't (completely asexual, but mostly half naked).

She was simultaneously with 2 of them for two years, trying to anticipate who will earn more in future.
She chose the right one.

He is happy. It's a bizarre story. At least here.
Natasa   
28 Sep 2010
Love / 6 months with my Polish girlfriend and I still don't understand her.. [208]

go for the money do better BJs.(why?).

Power of positive reinforcement (reward, conditioning) as motivation.

would you do a better job (any) if on the end you get new Polka or new german woman (or nothing)?

I would say that men and women operate differently only when it comes to the type of the reward.

for you Polka
for germanics domina
for Crow Slavija
for albanian we all had to see donkey

and so on....
Natasa   
28 Sep 2010
Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]

like intelligence, looks, age, ability to provide, sense of humour, political affiliation, experience, baggage, religion, location, fashion sense, personality, etc etc etc

Some things are missing here ;)
Natasa   
28 Sep 2010
Language / Polish or any Slavic language key to any other Slavic languages? [126]

I was told by my tour guide that Serbian is harder than its Croatian counterpart.

That is ONE language according to not politically correct linguists in both countries. They have more than 80 or 90 % of shared lexical fund , so...tourist guide was not informed well.

A woman tried to present her PhD thesis proving that fact few years ago in Zagreb, she was publicly humiliated for having such a blasphemous idea (but I think she proved her point).

Small differences that exist are in the direction tourist guide said. It's sounding sharper (serbian).

I was listening to Polish and I didn't understand a lot. I think I heard word osa (wasp in serbian, in Polish also?)
Maybe it's just me.
Natasa   
29 Sep 2010
Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]

I am unable tell you

"I don't want to tell you, nananana :P"

That's unfair

he wants to be unfair. Passive aggressive player.

you will have to use your imagination

I used it. it doesn't look nice.
I think she let him get closer to her boobs. my guess is 15 cm proximity is allowed now. without touching, of course.
Good, in a few years they will get to the sad missionary.
without a light.
Natasa   
30 Sep 2010
Love / Polish girls fall for Indian guys ? [217]

Yeah i've seen balkan power at first hand

As a very satisfied consumer of mentioned goods I can't allow this;)

Balkan power in Southerns sense. They have other flaws, but that segment of life is 10/10.

It's true.

Being thankful and respectful is the only right thing to do after socializing with them.

So, I am really a very lucky woman.

I had to say this.