News / Der Spiegel: "Poles are now the masters of Europe" [49]


Is this really what I think it is? German newspaper talking about "Polish nazi" past?

Love / Polish girls hard in relationships [156]


Is this ok with PF rules?

News / The Political Circus of Poland [306]


I like this, but I think it should be improved by adding 'you accuse', like in 'people you accuse of mental health problems'
Then it's really perfect :-)

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


You think no court would be able to rule on these?

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History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


Yes, there must be a cut off, but my common sense tells me that in Polish history the partitions had such significant importance that they warrant an exception. I think this exception should also apply to native Americans and black people in the US. Otherwise it is hard/impossible to talk about justice.These things should be decided summarily

by a special UN congress.

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]

That's a powerful argument, but surely it's not based on 'I say so' standard, right? Can you cite some case law or treaty, or something else

to back up this 'living memory' limit?

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]

No, I do not belong to some ancient group living there... as much as I know :-)
As far as I am concerned you can claim the property of your ancestors, I'd only ask for it to be conditioned
on assigning the same rights to Polish people who lost their property due to partitions and world wars.

Of course then a question would arise, if there were no known survivors would some Polish organization
be allowed to have a claim, or better yet a summary payment for all properties.

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


Answer:

enjoying it after the treaty of St. Petersburg, January 26, 1797, declared

"to abolish everything which could revive the memory of the existence of the Kingdom of Poland, now that the annulment of this body politic has been effected…the high contracting parties are agreed and undertake never to include in their titles…the name or designation of the Kingdom of Poland, which shall remain suppressed as from the present and forever…"

but I am sure he thinks that it was legal, proper and just.

To this day Russians, Germans and Jews believe they have legal rights to properties in Poland, which were confiscated from Polish owners during partitions and uprisings and given or sold for nothing to them. The victors' justice... I guess we have only ourselves to blame.

History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]


They all wandered away, probaly went to Manchuria.

Life / Why are Polish so conservative and religious? [240]


I don't know if fact that only about 150-300 thousand Jews were assimilated in II RP can support your statement
unless you believe in one nation/two languages theory.
Anyway it is an absolute truth that in Polish history we had a number of great Polish Jews, even Mickiewicz in
Pan Tadeusz wrote about Jankiel that "stary zyd Polske kochal".

Life / Catholic "Telewizja Trwam" from Poland - your thoughts? [98]


If you bothered to read the KRTV papers you would've known that it is NOT only business. They are supposed to
ensure that different point of views have access. It's called media plurality or something like that. Currently 100% of media
on multiplex is pro goverment...

Also, which one it is? It's "Rydzyk's empire" in which case obviously they have enough money to operate and should be

given licenese unless for politics.... or they are an unfunded poor strugling TV station, in which case they are no threat and
should be given license based on plurality...

Ooops, sorry, I forgot you want to have it both ways. It's just like with your famous tolerance that applies to one side only.

Love / help needed to warn off troublesome pole [25]


Please Wulkan do not interrupt the trolling going on here. It is pretty funny. The point is to distinguish who
are the trollers and who are the innocent victims.... Ooops, looks like I am the victim too.

Life / Polish word for 'queue' [18]


Maybe if you told them to 'get in line' instead of 'queue' it would work?

But seriously I don't understand the problem, doesn't everyone have an assigned seat at that time?
If they're rushing on board just let them, then you can board when it's empty. Of course I haven't seen it
but is it really that bad?

History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]


nor should it be


States? Why then all this talk about political integration, about 'regionization', about national governments being to big to solve small problems, and too small to solve big problems?


Is European influence shrinking? It did after WWII, but now? It may be growing in some regions. Anyway, the common interest. After 50 years of occupation followed by 20 years of 'reformed communist' and foreign corporations' government is it hard to understand that Poles feel nervous about Germany? Not the government but German people? How do they feel about the terrible deal that Poland got after WWII, when Stalin took more than half of the country and shifted her borthers west?

News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]


wrong, what's happening in Poland is Americanization of everything, the American model has been proven beneficial (to those in power of course)
and it being replicated. That's all.

Life / Catholic "Telewizja Trwam" from Poland - your thoughts? [98]


It's about replacing analog with digital TV transmission (done in the US few years ago).
During this switch several digital frequencies will become available for transmission 'over the air', therefore free
of charge. The government wants only 'friendly' stations to be there. TV Trwam would have to be on cable
or satelite for additional fee.

Some of TV Trwam programming:

on raising retirement age to 67 (Polish)
on demographics/low birth rate (Polish)
on Smolensk tragedy investigation (English/Polish)
on winter problems with agriculture (Polish)

News / The spiritual heirs of the Polish Communist Party [91]


No, it's creating a martyr.

When communist court sentenced great Polish writer Wankowicz to jail in 1960s, they never attempted to execute the order.
People say that Wankowicz on few occasions was seen knocking on the jail door requesting to take him in. They wouldn't.

So please go ahead, jail Mr. Rymkiewicz, this should inspire him to write a poem or two.

News / The spiritual heirs of the Polish Communist Party [91]


in my humble opinion it is utterly stupid to take 77 year old poet to court for slander which while may not be provable, is nevertheles common knowledge

among population. What does he have to lose in court? On the other hand it motivates him to write more, if anything to express his frustrations.

And poems live forever.

What does it prove? That Michnik lost his sense of reality? Or after all he is stupid? Opinions welcome.

History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]


ph.news.yahoo/photos/german-chancellor-merkel-interior-mini ster-friedrich-bdv-president-photo-192056854.html

German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Interior Minister Hans-Peter Friedrich and President of the German Federal Association of Expellees (BdV) Erika Steinbach look at an interactive map as they visit the exhibition "Heimat Weh" (Aching for the Home Country) before the BdV annual congress in Berlin, March 20, 2012. REUTERS

Aching for the home country? A few bumblebrains?

History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]


So....current Polish inhabitants of Gdansk would benefit from separating Gdansk from Poland ... great .... and Poland would benefit as well, or it's
irrelevant?
Look, Germany started two world wars. Poland has been devastated in both, especially Warszawa in WWII, first 25% in 39, then 70% in 44.
As result of these wars Germany lost eastern provinces by no decision of Poland that didn't even exist before WWI and was a loser in WWII, despite

having 'right' legal treaties and and hundreds of thousands soldiers fighting 'on the right side'.
Polish people want to live in peace with its neighbors. If Germany takes ownership of nazism and 'Polish concentration and death camps', if they
pay reparations for 50 years of occupation, for physical and human costs (I cannot even start to think about this), if Polish cities of Lwow and Wilno

can somehow become Polish again, then we can talk about anything and I can assure you we want Germans to feel justice. However, since such

probability is nill for the next 100 years, let's forget this subject. Let's just say that Germany losing of Gdansk and Wroclaw was the price for returning

to sanity. They needed help, and this was the price. And lasting benefit is that they see what can/will happen if they lose sanity again.

History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]


you cannot be more wrong, but do continue to push your propaganda

btw I understand why they're cutting teaching history in Poland. If Polish youth learned what happened to their country during
WWII let's just say they would not be friends of England, USA, France, Germany, Russia etc.

The truth is already known (English hiding their archives only support it), the next is apology and reparations!

History / Should Poland be given ANY credit for ALLOWING Jews into Poland for 1000 years? [195]


Ladykangaroo, you are very dangerous to some people on this forum. And thank you for that.

Few facts about Poland:
in recent years 2 million Poles emmigrated to foreign countries, that is more than 5% of the population,
the birthrate is at 1.26, the lowest in Europe and 206-th in the world.

Can these numbers justify calling the situation in Poland 'peaceful extermination'?

History / Why have Poles contributed so little to Academics? (Particularly Science) [180]


Poles haven't contributed to media ownership, that much is true. Therefore they are nazis, collborators, stupid, scum etc.

Point in case: full face restoration surgery in the US. Huge media event, never mentioned Prof. Maria Siemionow nationality.

History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]


I don't know.
I let you compare Warsaw and Prague after WWII and income they generate now from tourism.
Also I'd like to hope that Krzysztof Kamil Baczynski would be able to write more. That's all.

History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

I hope I repeat facts not communist propaganda, I really hope so.
Anyway I am not anti-British, just realist, I know their hands were tied 1939 and later as well.

But if you want to know what Polish people think about British, here is one story:

it is 1973, June 6, Poland plays England for qualification to World Cup '74 in Germany. The best Polish best player Lubanski scores a goal,
then he gets a ball and looks like he would be again in position to score. Then brutal faul by Roy McFarland and Lubanski's career is finished.

Poland goes on to qualify after memorable Wembley match, then goes to WC and finishes 3-rd without Lubanski. What could have been
if our best player was able to play? The history would be different.
I am not making any comparison to gen. Sikorski. It's just bad luck that accidents happen when England and Poland interests collide.

History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]


I believe US did not have a pact with Poland, but maybe you know better.

History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]


Precisely. I believe it was called Drang nach Osten:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drang_nach_Osten

Yes, they did not know where they would be playing, what shame.

Regarding England, if they had no intention of fighting in 1939 they should have done another Munich. But wait they did another Munich, didn't they?

Only it was 6 years later in Potsdam, after Polish people were killed and Poland was ruined. Thanks Brits!

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


Suppose you are talking about a country that had a history of having problems with staying indendent (like in last 300 years was
indendependent maybe 30-40 years nonconsecutive ?) Suppose this country had powerful neighbors that always think about partitioning
this country. Suppose further that your minority had roots in this area.

Wouldn't you think that this minority would like to be present when the next partitionig of this country takes place?

And keep a lot of noise about their grievances so that a restitution is made to them? Maybe even a small area just for them?

Makes sense? I don't know, you tell me.

History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]


It is dishonest to sign an agreement that one does not plan to keep. Both Westerplatte and Warsaw (twice 1939 and 1944) had to capitulate because of lack of ammunition, water, food and medicines. Because of English assurances Poland was pushed into war.

And talking about hypothetical situations:

Suppose there was a soccer tournament in Poland and Ukraine, suppose that Germany were playing in Ukraine, where would you think the German team would be headquarted? In Lwow? Kiev? Maybe Krakow if they wanted to be close to tens of thousands of fans that surely were going to follow them?

Guess again.

Invitation to Gdansk: "Hey people come with your team, rediscover your roots".... and stay?

Hans Frank said that thousand years will have to pass for Germany to forget the WWII. Looks like 67 is mighty for some.

History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]


Agreement of Mutual Assistance between the United Kingdom and Poland.-London, August 25, 1939

Article I:
(...) Contracting Parties become engaged in hostilities (...) in consequence of aggression (...), the other Contracting Party will at once give (...) all the support and assistance in its power.

Aricle iV
The methods of applying the undertakings of mutual assistance provided for by the present Agreement are established between the competent naval, military and air authorities of the Contracting Parties.

Article V
Without prejudice (...) to give each other mutual support and assistance immediately on the outbreak of hostilities (...).

Again, you're right, there is nothing about borders, only immediate assistance that was 'established' and not given. I was not able to find the secret ammendment that named Germany. So this is how you want to defend English conscience? Wow! Or maybe you want to defend this part of proud British history:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_for_our_time

Just open the Archives!!!!!! Or we need to wait 200 years?