History / Khazars and their crimes in the Slavic lands of Poland [63]

All this stinks of too much beer, stupidity and Hitler quotations fitting a vandal and a hooligan of the worst kind.

Genealogy / Do you think all Slavs are white? [178]


To the mod: How come that Idiot's post do not go to the bin and mine do?

And mine was:


The author (not an obscure Eastern European racist), original language, and source of the passage call attention but you would be misled if you would "sense a Jewish signature".

Postcolonial Poland
muse.jhu.edu/journals/ckn/summary/v010/10.1cavanagh.html

Clare Cavanagh

News / Premier says no recession for Poland [148]


Yes . Only in Poland employment in these more efficient , technologically advanced industries is much smaller than in Germany.

Goods manufactured in Germany have the reputation that German companies can sell them more expensive , and still find no buyers for . The high German labor costs do not interfere so in the competitiveness of German products.

Polish companies are only building for themselves a position . The challenge for us is to develop a modern , technologically advanced sector in which products are made with high added value and buyers located worldwide markets.

News / Poland's universities go up in world rankings [23]


MIT's most famous.... Noam Chomsky on races.

Race to the top: it kills interest, deadens the mind, but makes students more passive and obedient and less trouble.

News / Poland's universities go up in world rankings [23]


How to measure the quality of higher education?

If the ranking will promote effectiveness of the business sector model then how not to compromise the educational mission in favour of marketable position in the ranking?

Does the ranking mean introduction of a rat-race, this time in the higher education?

History / Film "Wałęsa" - historical reality vs myth - controvercies [103]


One of his cooperates: now politician and former trade union activist Jerzy Borowczyk

Najważniejszy strajk w historii Polski

The most important strike in Poland's history

The 39:02 time stamp 31.08.2013

Anna Maria Giza: Co z tymi postulatami: mieszkania, bezdomni, bezrobotni?

What about those strikers' demands: apartments, the homeless, the unemployed?

Jerzy Borowczyk: Postulat 19: skrócić czas oczekiwania, jak pamiętam, na mieszkanie...

The demand number 19: decrease of the waiting period for apartments, as I recollect...

Patryk Pleskot: Na ile to było wiarygodne? Na ile wy myśleliście, że to będzie zrealizowane? Bo to nie jest tak prosto? To trzeba by było wybudować te mieszkania, prawda?

How far was this credible? How far did you believe it's feasible/realistic? Because it is not so simple? Well, the apartments had to be built somehow, didn't they?

Jerzy Borowczyk: Po pierwsze, ten strajk był w innym ustroju. Myśmy tej władzy chcieli dopiec. Myśmy chcieli ją osłabić. Więc żądając 30 lat pracy dla kobiety, a dla mężczyzny 35, już wtedy wiedzieliśmy, że to jest NIEMOŻLIWE.

In the first place, the strike was in a different economic system. We wanted to hurt them to the quick, the authorities I mean. We wanted to weaken them. So by demanding the working period of 30 years for women or 35 years for men we at that time already knew that it was IMPOSSIBLE.

Anna Maria Giza: I... 50 i 55 lat emerytura.

And the retirement age of women 50 and of men 55

Jerzy Borowczyk: Wiedzieliśmy, że to jest niemożliwe, ale te postulaty były w innym ustroju. Dzisiaj takich postulatów pewnie w zakładach pracy, w firmach, ludzie nie będą zgłaszali.

We knew that it was impossible, but the demands were in a different economic system. Now, most probably, such demands nobody will make.

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]


Would you like to live in the world of the mad mathematician:

This is the world of isolated and mindless people. I'd rather live in the world of philosophers of older days, questioning and examining their lives at any moment:

The unexamined life is not worth living for a human being.

It is better to live your own life than mindlessly follow others ideas for a good life.
Think for yourself. Poles mostly do. You are talking as if you have given up that privilege of thinking for yourself.

Life / What makes a man a Pole? what does it mean to be a Pole? [187]


But that was the stuff of Polish literature, mostly romantic, which fed on the stereotype of martyrdom - the view about Poland's innate moral superiority and being unblemished by any evil, and the equally innate, complete bestiality of Poland's Russian and German persecutors.

Imre Kertész said something that could I think apply to Poland as well.

If we put in place of "Hungarian" "Polish" we can identify the identity of a Pole:

It seems that the soul of a small Eastern European nation, the soul that suffers from the father complex and is immersed in sadomasochistic perversion, is unable to exist without a great oppressor, whom it could blame for its historic failures, nor without a national minority, this scapegoat, on which it could vent, releasing the surplus of hatred and resentment, which accumulated in the course of daily defeats. Without anti-Semitism, what kind of identity would a person have who is incessantly preoccupied with his or her specifically Hungarian identity?

Back to topic people. The rest will end in the bin.

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]


Chomsky on the 500 years of western imperialism since Christopher Columbus

Communism under western eyes:

The animating concern was not Stalin's awesome crimes, but the apparent successes in development with their broad appeal, and the possibility that the Russians might be "flirting with the thought" of lending support to "aspirations of the common man" in the West, and subjugated and oppressed people everywhere. The failure of East Europe to resume its traditional role as a supplier of food and raw materials to the West compounded these concerns. The problem is not crimes, but insubordination, a fact illustrated by a host of gangsters from Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin to Saddam Hussein. It was not Stalin's crimes that troubled Western leaders.

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BadP-1QlgVA

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

After the massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia few Poles would have condemned him for fighting the UPA.
The nationalist passions were ubiquitous at the time.

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

Jaruzelski's official website states that from the fall of 1945 until 1946, Jaruzelski took part in "fighting bandits of the armed underground and Ukrainian nationalist" in order to "defend the Polishness of Hrubieszow Land".

Let it be stated here clearly: the Party
Descends directly from the fascist Right.

And who recognized that the way to power
Was to blow on the coals of national passions?

But he was a soldier of lower rank not a general then.

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]


Jaruzelski's early life and military career. Something about the Home Army but nothing about Ukrainians. Where did you get it from?

He served in the Soviet-sponsored First Polish Army during the war. He participated in the Soviet military takeover of Warsaw and the Battle of Berlin, both of which occurred in 1945. By the time the war ended that year, he had gained the rank of lieutenant. He "further credited himself in Soviet eyes" by engaging in combat against the Polish Home Army, an anti-communist organization, from 1945 to 1947.

After the end of the war, Jaruzelski graduated from the Polish Higher Infantry School, an event which was followed by a graduation from the General Staff Academy. He joined Poland's communist party, the Polish United Workers Party, in 1948 and started to denounce people for the Soviet supervised Main Directorate of Information of the Polish Army using the cover name Wolski. In the first post-war years, he was among the military fighting the Polish anti-communist guerrillas ("cursed soldiers") in the Świętokrzyskie region. A BBC News profile of Jaruzelski says that his career "took off after the departure [from Poland] in 1956 of the Soviet Field Marshal, Konstantin Rokossovsky", who had been Poland's Commander in Chief and Minister of Defence.

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]


Excuse me, but if so, then you have been in the business too long for that shiit!

You're trying to arouse emotions in your story. Can you be more detached in telling it.

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]


Let's start with a warning from Jesus: Judge not, that you be not judged.

It does not matter much if they did not compromise the Christian values; in Poland it was possible because, as Polonius3 said, Poland was the freest barrack in the Socialist camp to some extent due to the Catholic Church. One of those values is forgiveness, truth and reconciliation.

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]


They, secularized countries, just yielded to power, they had to, just as Poland did. And there were some in Poland who collaborated willingly with the Stalinist regime although they declared themselves to be Catholics, for example Bolesław Piasecki and his PAX movement.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolesław_Piasecki

What do you think of him and his movement?

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]


I do not think that those most secular countries were overcome by the religious fervour of Stalinism. As you know, the man's only education, who gave the name to the movement, was a religious one: first at the Gori church school and then at a seminary in Tbilisi.

The diary of Andrei Arzhilovsky:

The portraits of our leaders are now displayed the same way icons used to be: a round portrait, framed and attached to a pole.
Very convenient. Hoist it on to your shoulder and you're on your way. It 's just the same as people used to do for church holidays.

They had their activists then, we have ours now. Different paths, the same old bloody nonsense.

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]


Comparison of the so-called special lustration court in Poland and the Truth and Reconciliation Commission in South Africa.

The New York Times
nytimes.com/2007/01/22/opinion/22osiatynski.html?pagewanted=print&_r=0 - Poland Makes Witch Hunting Easier
By WIKTOR OSIATYNSKI

Warsaw, January 22, 2007

Politics breeds conflict. And that is why politicians should leave some sensitive realms of morality alone. In South Africa, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission was separated from contemporary politics. In Poland, the past has became prey for today's hunters, proving again that whenever history falls into the hands of politicians, distorted truth becomes an instrument for their own goals.


Czesław Miłosz w "Traktacie poetyckim":

[i]Niech tutaj będzie wreszcie powiedziane:
Jest ONR-u spadkobiercą Partia.
A poza nimi nic nigdy nie było
Prócz buntu godnych pogardy jednostek.
Któż miecz Chrobrego wydobywał z pleśni?
Któż wbijał myślą słupy aż w dno Odry?
I któż namiętność uznał narodową

Let it be stated here clearly: the Party
Descends directly from the fascist Right.
Outside of them there was never anything
But rebels whose posturing merited scorn.
Who resurrected the sword of Boleslaw the Brave?
Who drove pillars into the bottom of the Oder?
And who recognized that the way to power
Was to blow on the coals of national passions?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolesław_Piasecki - And the fascist Right was quite close to the Church, wasn't it?

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

Who art thou, then? Part of that Power, not understood, Which always wills the Bad, and always works the Good?

Faust:

Nun gut, wer bist du denn?

Mephistopheles:

Ein Teil von jener Kraft,
Die stets das Böse will und stets das Gute schafft.

Maybe the other way round?

Who art thou, then?

Part of that Power, quite mad, Which always wills the Good, and always works the Bad?

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

Just to create a diversion... and as a metaphor of games and plays of sundry people.

Genealogy / Polish blood only makes up 1% of your "Polishness" [77]

Oh, just a fraction for the royal babe, a babe in arms in a coat of arms. I'd pay any money to be a Royal.

Genealogy / Polish blood only makes up 1% of your "Polishness" [77]

A practical advice as to the learning of Polish

I've just bought the Polish baby to teach me Polish - this is the easiest way if you do not have the pure Polish blood.

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]


coup d'état


and GRACES OF AVANT-GARDE
nytimes.com/1986/05/26/world/1000-churches-rise-in-poland-adding-graces-of-avant-garde.html

POLISH CHURCH AWAITS POPE, BEWILDERED BY ITS NEW VIGOR

MICHAEL T. KAUFMAN, Special to the New York Times
Published: June 07, 1987

The clergy is growing here. There are now more Roman Catholic seminarians in Poland than in any country in the world. A third of all newly ordained European priests are Poles. More churches are being built in Poland than in the rest of Europe.

Jaruzelski was a communist indeed.

Kamiński told the BBC's Polish service that this was the most important meeting of my whole life. Gen Pinochet was clearly moved and extremely happy with our visit.

Having in mind of Jaruzelski's catholic education at the school of Marian Fathers of the Immaculate Conception of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary and his positive, pro-church politics, look my previous post, he is more entitled to the gorget embossed with an image of the Virgin Mary than general Pinochet.

Moreover:

Why is this book ? Have not been said enough about martial law , its authors , or not enough of a dispute about the legitimacy of Polish pushing this tragic episode in its recent history ? Memories of the daughter of General Jaruzelski to these questions do not match . Monika Jaruzelska not take to grips with opponents of her father, defends the decision to announce against the Polish flag on television screens December 13, 1981 .

It has no ethos or pathos - Jaruzelska emphasizes in the preface to the book " The young lady companion ." - Anyone who expects a glorification or political reasons , which should be an obligation daughter communist dictator may feel disappointed - he adds.



W co się bawić? W co się bawić?
Daleka pora na pytanie to, czy bliska,
Lecz w końcu przecież trzeba będzie je postawić,
Chociaż na razie w oku tli się śmiechu iskra

Więc, chociaż wszyscy są szczęśliwi
I nic nie sugeruje zmiany,
Niech, proszę, jednak Was nie zdziwi,
Że jestem trochę zadumany

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

The educated man pictures a horde of submen, wanting only a day's liberty to loot his house, burn his books, and set him to work minding a machine or sweeping out a lavatory. "Anything," he thinks, "any injustice, sooner than let that mob loose." He does not see that since there is no difference between the mass of rich and poor, there is no question of setting the mob loose. The mob is in fact loose now, and--in the shape of rich men--is using its power to set up enormous treadmills of boredom.

--George Orwell, from Down and Out in Paris and London, 1933

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]


mediocre - 1580s; from Middle French médiocre (16c.), from Latin mediocris "of middling height or state, moderate, ordinary," figuratively "mediocre, mean, inferior," originally "halfway up a mountain," from medius "middle". As a noun, "medicore thing or person," by 1834.

middle class - 1766; as an adjective, "characteristic of the middle class" (depreciative) it dates from 1893.

bourgeois - A person belonging to the middle class

Midiocre, middle class or bourgeois, what difference? Who are you pointing at? You are pointing at yourself?


On the trail of George Orwell's outcasts
bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14372195


It was indeed an offer only and still is.
But there is a hope in the land of hope and glory:

And did those feet in ancient time.
Walk upon Englands mountains green:
And was the holy Lamb of God,
On Englands pleasant pastures seen!

And did the Countenance Divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here,
Among these dark Satanic Mills?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_did_those_feet_in_ancient_time

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bKaJ4b0XYmI

Dark Satanic Mills is referring to industrial revolution and its destruction of nature and human relationships.

[i]I znowuż kręcić się będą ponure szatańskie młyny
Czy zmielą też kości tych, którzy je w ruch puścili?

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

Right.

Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day.

Jefferson, Thomas.

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

I'd say even more than that

Demands to read:

11. Znieść ceny komercyjne oraz sprzedaż za dewizy w tzw. eksporcie wewnętrznym.

11. The abolition of 'commercial' prices and of other sales for hard currency in special shops.

13. Wprowadzić na mięso i jego przetwory kartki ? bony żywnościowe.

13. The introduction of food coupons for meat and meat products.

forum.gazeta.pl/forum/w,57,25166156,25184970,tekst_21_postulatow_do_przeczytania.html

As you can see Solidarity movement was against commercialization and much more anti-market than so-called communists.

You do not remember but I do the doggerel poetry of the memorable days of 1980:

kto ty jesteś ? - komercjuszek, jaki znak twój - pusty brzuszek....

At the beginning of the economic transformation the so-called private sector made up to 20% of the Polish total GNP, more than in any other so-called communist country.

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]


Naomi Klein, because the facts you are referring to are from her book, is not talking about a theory, but about the established practice.

History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]


A background story from the beginning of the economic transformation:

As Latin Americans had just learned, authoritarian regimes have a habit of embracing democracy at the precise moment when their economic projects are about to implode. Poland was no exception. The speed of the collapse of the old order and the sudden election sweep had been shocks in themselves: in a matter of months, Solidarity activists went from hiding from the secret police to being responsible for paying the salaries of those same agents. And now they had the added shock of discovering that they barely had enough money to make the payroll. Rather than building the post-Communist economy they had dreamed of, the movement had the far more pressing task of avoiding a complete meltdown and potential mass starvation.

From the book by Naomi Klein: The shock doctrine...

Jaruzelski's evolution in the '80s even anticipated that of the Solidarity trade union. The slogan formed in the Lenin Shipyard in Gdańsk in 1980: There can be no freedom without Solidarity - Nie ma Wolności bez Solidarności.

The slogan of the then Communist government (Jaruzelski's government), emblazoned on a banner stretched across the Central Committee building, echoing with the Hayek's "Liberty and responsibility are inseparable": There can be no freedom without responsibility - Nie ma Wolności bez Odpowiedzialności.

Jerzy Urban about Jaruzelski in his long interview with Marta Streecka:

Pieklił się, że ten Reagan to bezczelny kłamca i fałszywiec. Aprobował przecież stan wojenny, a później udawał oburzenie. Oczekiwał w polityce prostolinijności, ale tylko od przeciwników.

[Jaruzelski] ranted and raved about Reagan being a blatant liar and a double-crosser. After all he gave consent to the martial law and then later [Reagan] pretended righteous indignation. He expected from politicians to be guileless, ingenuous and artless, but that was the standard for his opponents.

Tomasz Wołek's oppinions about the interview:

Żaden członek elity władzy nie uchylił zasłony tak zamaszyście, odsłaniając skryte za nią tajemnice. Ten widok przyprawia o mdłości

As yet no other member of the elite politicians drew so boldly the curtains aside as to reveal behind it the covered secrets.

In 1999, Michał Kamiński, former chairman of the European Conservatives and Reformists in the European Parliament, along with Marek Jurek and the journalist Tomasz Wołek (look above) visited London to present a gorget embossed with an image of the Virgin Mary to former Chilean dictator General Augusto Pinochet. Kamiński told the BBC's Polish service that this was the most important meeting of my whole life. Gen Pinochet was clearly moved and extremely happy with our visit.

Maybe they should present the gorget to Jaruselski, after all two generals have much in common with each other, namely the road to serfdom : Hayek's views on Pinochet's Chile. Kamiński, Wołek and Jurek are also somewhat alike Jaruzelski in other respect: they turned their back on all that Solidarity stood for for the sake of a career. Am I wrong?

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]

Professional feminists in pursuit of sexual pleasure equality

News / Poland to reject Snowden asylum bid [55]


And what Poland should expect him to do is to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth - nothing more than that.