Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


...I know you're a linguist and that this example was just an analogy but I think it would've been better if you said "Russian is an uneducated version of Polish". Ok, I'm slightly biased. ;)

Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]


Pirate, I think your experience with Polish people is an exception to the rule. However, not just with Polish people... I've always heard Thank You after a meal in the US, or a Merci in France and Quebec, Gracias in Mexico and Costa Rica, Xie Xie in China and Spaciba in Russia. Most people are polite by nature but every now and then you run into the brutes of the world. Sounds like you drew the short stick there, sorry about that.

Law / Old Polish money banknotes - what's their value today? [414]


Not sure about that. A friend exchanged some of the old Zimbabwe dollars and the bank made an error - instead of getting back US $50 dollars he got US $5,000. When they realized their error they have him 30 days to repay it then they started charging him an interest on the money, as if he'd taken a loan from them. He contacted an attorney who said he had no case. He repaid it a few weeks later. By at Bank of America.

Sorry about the spelling errors above, not enough time to correct...

Those of you who have "old" (pre-1995 but post-1945) Polish banknotes and want to know how much they're worth - remember, the largest note today is 200 Złoty.

It's really simple - if you have a 10,000 Złoty bill obviously it must be an old bill, there are no new bills over 200 Złoty remember?

Simply divide it by 10,000 (1 new Złoty = 10,000 old Złoty - or Złotych) and you have the value of the new Złoty.

In other words:

10,000 old Złoty equals 1 new Złoty or 35 US cents.
100,000 old Złoty = 10 new Złoty or US $3.5, etc.

Today Tuesday 19th Jan 2010

PL 1Zł = US $0.35 (or 35 cents)
US $1 = PL 2.78 Zł

However check yahoo currency or your bank for today's value.

Love / How do Polish boys feel about foreign girls? [163]


I see where you're coming from, I really do.

Having said that I'd like to marry someone who views me as her lover, her friend and her true soulmate and I'd want to view her in the same light.

If she happens to be Polish (or Swedish, or American, or Brasilian, or...) that'll be the extra bonus. If you truly love someone and she loves you, you will be able to maintain your heritage because she'll want to learn everything about you and your culture, and vice versa. So I'll let my heart guide me rather than use passports for orientation.

Again, I do see your point but I've seen some 'unexpected' couples and the happines that followed and I became inspired... Maybe it'll happen and maybe it won't but it never hurts to aim high and hope for the best...

Love / How do Polish boys feel about foreign girls? [163]


I live in the States. Two of my best friends married Latinas, one is from Argentina the other from Peru, both are very happy with their wives. I used to date a Brazilian lady and she was great, VERY emotional and always full of expresions ;) but the long distance relationship didn't work though...


Tjenare fröken Smith,

Agree with you but why all the yelling? ;)

Ha det bra.

I don't know Brutal, she's hot and a sweetheart. They've been married for 5 years and their 2 little girls like mini Angelina Jolies - I think he struck gold... :)

Love / POLISH WOMEN ARE PROMISCUOUS? DISCUSS. [153]


I agree with you but at the same token I don't like when women or men who'd just broken up with their latest flame immediately start dating a new person and "rub it in" without any consideration whatsoever for their old love. I think that's rude - no reason to be hurting the ex just to be a jerk. Let the ex heal first or at least keep your new relationship as private as possible for a while.

I have to admit I did something like that in the past and it wasn't until several years later that I was told how "ruthless" she thought I was after the break up. I honestly had no idea, didn't even know she cared but I guess she did. The thing is she was really nice and kind to me so I don't know why I was such a jerk. Anyways, my point is when love ends there's no reason to be ruthless - the 'dumped' person is hurting bad enough.

Love / Is she genuine? - I would like some advice please re a Polish girl. [130]


It's great you're open to other cultures. As far as your past net experience, a woman being interested in sex Andy is not a bad thing; in fact it's great... Just get her disinterested in the money part... Wear her out Andy so she can't even think about money but wants to sleep to regain her strength... ...and when she wakes up do it all over again... :)

I'm joking Andy. Well kind of...

Wish you the best!


I like that saying, makes lots of sense

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Joland - I agree with you, I think it all depends on a person's background. For a Slovak Polish isn't that hard, for a German and an American it's pretty darn hard and for a Chinese and Korean it's almost impossible. Of course the reverse applies too.

So it's all very relative.

As far as Finnish - Long time ago when I lived in Sweden I lived with a Finnish girlfriend so I took Finnish classes; wanted to be able to talk to her folks in Finland (Suomi). The hardest things for me were all the double a's, etc and the fact the prepositions were "backward" - you wouldn't say something is "on the table" - instead the translation would be something like "tableon" - makes for loong words... lol. Makes for pretty sound though (and women ;)

Love / Well.. I got a Polish girl pregnant.. [88]


All depends on what you do, not your education. I have "high current" (there's "low" current version too) electrical engineering degree from Sweden (from a university connected to ABB), but I worked as an electrician not electrical engineer in a Zink mine in Sweden (before I changed professions).

Electricians in the States make good money, especially when lots of costruction is going on. When I converted my licences from Swedish to US and got to work at a small construction company , senior electricians there (after 8-12 years) were making $90k to $160k a year (they always quote "yearly" salaries here) and that was in Southeast where the living costs were relatively low. This was a succesful firm and we were making bonuses on profits the company was making. Here in Hawai'i they make even more (but it's more expensive to live here too). I don't know exactly what they all make now as I've switched professions long time ago...

Regarding a statement someone made "no airline will let a 5 months pregnant woman fly" - it does depend on the airline, I used to fly for Delta and am pretty sure if the lady had a letter from her doctor stating she was healthy, the pregnancy was moving along ad planned, etc., she'd be allowed to fly but I do not know what the "real" cut off pregnancy time was.

I know Poles and other nationalities like to be respected by others no matter if they're rich or poor. Why don't we do the same for the illegal Mexican aliens? They abuse our system for sure, many bring in drugs, some get involved on gangs, etc. but those people are not "rats"! as done people have called them. Easy to do in the heat if the battle (argument) but I think we shouldn't be doing that. It's a tough situation for sure, many are actually indiginious "Mexican Indians" and barely speak any Spanish, much less English. They're abusing a loophole in our system, so let's blame the system and not them.

[i] Polish girlfriend. Pregnant. Just do the right thing and take care of your girl, and your child, no matter what happens, no matter where you'll end up. She's worth it, and so is your child.[/]

Totally agree.

Jason, I think we forgot to ask you the most important question here.

What does she want to do? What does she want you to do? ...and will you do what she wants you to do?

Language / Terms of endearment in Polish [209]

I see, thanks. Yeah, I was wondering why he was making fun of his wife having period? I figured, he ain't gonna get any for a looong time! LOL

Of course, it sounds like this meaning might be even tougher on his wife, huh?

I think jokes are really hard to interpret, often the true meaning just doesn't translate...

Love / Well.. I got a Polish girl pregnant.. [88]

You're right but he was talking about trying to her her to the US.


The advantage of doing that - the kids become US citizens automatically.

The disadvantage - the green card process for the kid's mom will be more complicated.

Love / Well.. I got a Polish girl pregnant.. [88]


IF her kids are born in the US the kids (not the mom) will automatically become US citizens - they won't need a green card. That's the law.

However the mom will need to apply for a green card. Unless she marries the father and then she'll get a work permit 12-18 months later and a temporary green card a year thereafter. After 5 years as a green card holder (sometimes 3) she can become a citizen if she wants.

Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution - July 9, 1868, -

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.[2

Birthright citizenship in the United States of America refers a person's acquisition of United States citizenship by virtue of the circumstances of his or her birth. It contrasts with citizenship acquired in other ways, for example by naturalization later in life. Birthright citizenship may be conferred either by jus soli and jus sanguinis.

Under United States law, any person born within the United States (including the overseas territories of Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the Northern Mariana Islands) and subject to its jurisdiction is automatically granted U.S. citizenship, [1] as are many (though not all) children born to American citizens overseas.

Love / Well.. I got a Polish girl pregnant.. [88]


That's good news because we do NOT want you here either. If I misunderstood your post's intent, I'm sorry. However, you know, I too am a Wrocław Boy, or used to be as a kid but I don't see why I should be demeaning toward your current country, whatever it happens to be? If you don't like those "idiot yanks" fine, just stay away.

This thread was about a guy who came here for advice, not to be lectured about not using condoms or whether one country sucks more than the other.

I hope things work out for them both, lots of families out there who'd absolutely love to have a child, not to mention twins!

...and Jason - do some research and I'm sure things will work out for you. Let me know what state you live in and I might be able to find an immigration attorney you can talk to. Usually an hour or so is enough to learn your options. You both will be fine, this is good news despite some of the doom & gloom here...

Love / Well.. I got a Polish girl pregnant.. [88]


Jason - if the babies are born in the US (congrats btw and I mean it!) they'll automatically get the US citizenship. US is the only country I'm aware of that gives citizenship to kids who're born in the US even if the parents aren't US citizens; in most countries citizenship is related to parents' citizenship. That's why when Hong Kong was about to be handed over to China thousands of pregnant Chinese women would come to the US to give birth - they wanted a back up plan and now there are thousands of kids in Hong Kong with a US passport.

Without sounding racist - this has been practiced by Mexican mothers for generations and that's how the term "anchor babies" came about - the US authorities seldom attempt to expel mothers to US citizens as they know someone has to take care of those children. Kids -since they are American citizens - cannot be expelled (there are exceptions, usually when the mother commits a crime).

So basically if your girlfriend's (and yours of course) babies are born in the US the chances of her being expelled are very remote. However, it'll be a real pain to deal with it because as an illegal alien she won't technically have a job permit.

My suggestion - you move to Poland and marry her there - apply for a spouse visa permit for her from Poland (might take 6-12 months) - a pain in the butt but once she has her paper work y'alls life will be so much better. Friend of mine went through this with his wife a year or so ago (she is Japanese who used to have a Brasilian passport :)

If she decides later to return back to Poland when the kids turn 18 they'll have to choose what citizenship they want to maintain (unless Poland allows dual citizenship).

Hope this helps.

Good luck to you both!

Love / What do Polish guys think of Irish girls? [187]


Actually women too can be transvestites it's just that you'd never know it and it's sort of pointless.

Many (but not all) transvestites get turned on by the taboo subject of wearing the other gender's cloths. For women however there's no taboo in wearing male cloths, happens every day and no one even notices. That's why today the term transvestite is pretty much reserved for men. I bet I'd look good in a skirt... Especially a kilt! ;)

From Wikipedia:

Origin of the term Transvestism

Magnus Hirschfeld coined the term transvestism (from Latin trans-, "across, over" and vestitus, "dressed") to refer to the sexual interest in cross-dressing.[2] He used it to describe persons who habitually and voluntarily wore clothes of the opposite sex. Hirschfeld's group of transvestites consisted of both males and females, with heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, and asexual orientations.[3]

Love / What do Polish guys think of Irish girls? [187]

Sokrates - seriously - you chose a screen name symbolizing inteligence - act accordingly.

We all have different tastes. I fly all over the world and think there are beautiful (and less than beautiful) women in every country I've been in. What you find attractive might not appeal to me and vice versa and that's the beauty of it. God/nature/fate made us all different for a reason.

If you really cleaned the dishes in Éire I seriously doubt your sample of women was representative of that island.

So stop hating everything you don't like.

Vive la différence Sokrates. ;)

Just read your last message and now I'm not sure if you're serious or not. If you're joking, plz disregard my post...

Language / Terms of endearment in Polish [209]


Well, would you be offended if someone said "you have a small dick? ;) Unless you're a woman than you DEFINITELY do not want to hear that!" LOL

Seriously, you never joke about age with women no matter what nationality they are... Remember they're from Venus - different rules over there...


Aloha Anjelkake,

Kauai'i rocks - I live on Oahu... ;)

A hui hou

PS. Your link doesn't work


I don’t get this joke but I’m sure I translated it all wrong so help me out here…

Two guys are talking::
- What kind of sweet (flattering, praising) words (or compliments) do you use when addressing your wife?
- I say to her: darling, dear, sunshine. And you?
- I call her a piece of fleece.
- Why fleece?
- Because it's such a diminutive form of a rag.

Did I get it right? If so, what’s funny about a rag? Here “she’s on the rag” is an unflattering way of saying she's on her period; so I just don’t get the joke…

PS. Great screen name btw, just too many "j's" and "a's" and... LOL

Love / Is she genuine? - I would like some advice please re a Polish girl. [130]


All true, yeah, you're right - use lots of common sense. I sure hope this couple will make it though! Sounds like the real thing to me.

Genealogy / What is a scultetus/soltys in Poland? [15]

I understand, last time I was in Poland was some 30 years ago (I was a kid then)... Pretty sad actually as I've visited half the world by now (literally) but haven't had time to visit Poland... I'll have to do it sooner rather than later...

If you decide to go, the best thing is to have someone who can show you around. I always get a "guide" whenever I visit a place. Sometimes I pay him/her/them a fee, buy them dinner, coffee, whatever we agree on. It'll quadruple your experiences...

Good luck whenever you go..

Love / POLISH WOMEN ARE PROMISCUOUS? DISCUSS. [153]

Could you please tell me where else you've heard that besides Canada? or was it Canada only? I have lived in Sweden, Norway, US, and a brief period in Australia, I have never heard that Polish women are promiscuous. I have heard many times, and sometimes it's true, that Polish and other east (central) European women only want a green-card and possible half of the man's savings when they divorce him but I think it shows a person's character more than anything. Some women are like that, I doubt the majority of them are.

Should you be offended? Damn right you should. You have a sister and I have a sister. I can tell you that would I ever hear anything like that from someone in my presence I'd get really mad. I'm not a violent person and there wouldn't be any physical violence of course but I'd definitely want to get the person to explain himself/herself. By the way, I'd act the same way if it was about an American or a Chinese woman.

Isn't it amazing that when a woman (I'm a guy) dates a bunch of guys she becomes a slut, w-h-o-re, loose, you name it. When I or any of my friends do the same we becomes studs, ladies-men, etc. Unfortunately there's a double standard and it's too bad.

Not sure if it'll ever be totally equal between the sexes but from what I've noticed women are tough on other women, guys seldom care. I do think change starts from the bottom up so it is up to us, usually guys to defend the ladies when stupid BS is being said about them.

If she "sleeps around" - well, it's her business and eventually she'll learn that it won't make her a happier person, in fact usually it's the other way around but it's up to her to figure that out.

You said you have a sister but didn't mention your gender, I'm assuming you're a guy, correct?

Next time you hear something like that - get mad and do something about it - that's what being a man is all about.

Just my 1/2 penny which equals 1/4 of a penny in Obama's world.

Love / Is she genuine? - I would like some advice please re a Polish girl. [130]


Really? Is it someone in an another country? If so, how do you know it's real? or even if it's someone in the same country, hard to tell it's real isn't it?

Then again, I guess you know just as little about a person you meet in a bar Well, maybe it's a good idea after all, what do I now...


I'm not sure you realize how sophisticated they can be...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_fraud

Love / Is she genuine? - I would like some advice please re a Polish girl. [130]

True, or over 80 and suffering from Alzheimer which supposedly is the most common victim here in the US.

Love / Is she genuine? - I would like some advice please re a Polish girl. [130]


Nigerian scams are so despicable and lots of old people become an easy prey, but if you can’t beat them, join them!

I’ve revised a Nigerian letter to your conditions so hopefully you’ll be able to get some truth out of her! See how she’ll react. :)

LAGOS, NIGERIA.

ATTENTION: THE PRESIDENT/CEO

DEAR MRS,

CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL

HAVING CONSULTED WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND YOUR BRITISH BOYFRIEND BASED ON THE INFORMATION GATHERED FROM THE BRITISH AND POLISH CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND INDUSTRY, I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO REQUEST FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE TO TRANSFER THE SUM OF $47,500,000.00 (FORTY SEVEN MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS) INTO YOUR ACCOUNTS. THE ABOVE SUM RESULTED FROM AN OVER-INVOICED CONTRACT, EXECUTED COMMISSIONED AND PAID FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS (5) AGO BY A FOREIGN CONTRACTOR. THIS ACTION WAS HOWEVER INTENTIONAL AND SINCE THEN THE FUND HAS BEEN IN A SUSPENSE ACCOUNT AT THE CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA APEX BANK.

WE ARE NOW READY TO TRANSFER THE FUNDS AND THAT IS WHERE YOU COME IN. IT IS IMPORTANT TO INFORM YOU THAT AS CIVIL SERVANTS, WE ARE FORBIDDEN TO OPERATE A FOREIGN ACCOUNT; THAT IS WHY WE REQUIRE YOUR ASSISTANCE. THE TOTAL SUM WILL BE SHARED AS FOLLOWS: 70% FOR US, 25% FOR YOU AND 5% FOR LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL EXPENSES INCIDENT TO THE TRANSFER.

THE TRANSFER IS RISK FREE ON BOTH SIDES. I AM AN ACCOUNTANT WITH THE BRITISH NATIONAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION BASED IN NIGERIA (BNPC-BIN). IF YOU FIND THIS PROPOSAL ACCEPTABLE, WE SHALL REQUIRE THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS:

(A) YOUR WEIGHT, HEIGHT, EYE COLOR, BRA SIZE, AND CURRENT FAMILY SIZE.

(B) YOUR PRIVATE TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBERS -- FOR CONFIDENTIALITY AND EASY COMMUNICATION.

(C) YOUR LETTER-SIZED FULL FRONTAL NUDITY PICTURES FOR FRAUD VERIFICATION PURPOSES.

ALTERNATIVELY WE WILL FURNISH YOU WITH A WEBCAM DEVICE ALONG WITH A BREAKDOWN OF PICTURES NECESSARY FOR COMPREHENSIVELY COMPLYING WITH WHAT WE REQUIRE OF YOU. THE BUSINESS WILL TAKE US THIRTY (30) WORKING DAYS TO ACCOMPLISH.

PLEASE REPLY URGENTLY.

BEST REGARDS,

YOUR BUSINESS ASSOCIATES

Please note - this is only a joke! I truly hope things will work out for you two and I have a feeling that it will.

Several of my friends have told me online dating is the way of the future. I’ve now been to two weddings of people who met online. A couple who met on match.com was the first one and then a lady friend who met a guy on a parental support website (they both had one kid each from their previous marriages.)

Yet even though I’m aware of some good stories sometimes I also hear about the Nigerian type of scams and then I panic and decide not to try.

One day maybe but in the meantime – seriously - good luck to you both!

Love / Is she genuine? - I would like some advice please re a Polish girl. [130]


Andy - Ogien's avatar = Bolek i Lolek...

Yeah, finally something I'm familiar with regarding Poland! LOL

Love / What do Polish guys think of Irish girls? [187]


Like this?

youtube.com/watch?v=eSaa-2t2zmQ

Yeah, those Irish ladies could be armless for what I care, Celtic Tige... Kittycats.
Meou... LOL

I've always found Irish women very attractive... The Irish accent helps too.

Genealogy / What is a scultetus/soltys in Poland? [15]


You're more than welcome. Interesting stuff and good practice for me. I was a kid when we moved from PL so reading in Polish is sort of difficult for me but somehow it usually works out...

You live in the States? If so where? (I'm just curious). I'm in the Aloha state.

Genealogy / What certificate is this?; birth certificate from the greek catholic church [63]


I agree, I'll let Sasha and others here keep providing him with some excellent information. It's really quite amazing how much "smaller" the world has gotten since the internet came about.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

...but why, after all the stuff you check for in your bag was paid for with a check (ok, credit card) :)

Love / I love my Polish girl! Wanted to share my story. [55]

Really? I thought I had all the answers and knew exactly what I needed to do, look where it got me (divorce). I think it's great the guy's being proactive and tries to learn from others.

Don't be so brutal, oh wait, you can't... ;)

Work / Looking for information on Polish AF Pay [10]


You're welcome.

...and you're right, gliders are very peaceful, and the flying is so very fulfilling and relaxing. I've flown many airplanes from small turboprops to Boeings 767s and still think gliders offer the best kind of flying experience.

When it comes to your book research, I came up with a a better idea.

Since this is an English forum - could someone please translate the following message into Polish?

I am wondering if Polish AF pilots receive additional pay for flying duties like USAF pilots do? If so, how long have they received this pay and approximately what is the amount?

I have also been trying to find out what the scale of pay is for officers as well.

I am writing a fictional story and the character is a Polish AF officer. I am very interested in knowing how the military pay/economic lifestyle was for officers before 1989, and also how it is in the present day. I appreciate all of your assistance.

sue

If no one replies send a PM to mafketis on this forum. He/she is a linguist and I'm sure will be willing to help you out.

(my proof ;) - https://polishforums.com/language/chosen-hardest-world-learn-34156/2/#msg664621)

Sue, once someone translates it just copy & paste it to the other forum under your screen name. Include the English version in case there are lurkers like me.

I'll subscribe to that thread (that's an option they have) and each time there's a reply I'll get an email alerting me of the new message. I'll then log on to translate it to English. There won't be a problem as long there'll be a Polish version of the text included.

Voilà!