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Well.. I got a Polish girl pregnant..


jasonmzk 1 | 2
16 Jan 2010 #1
I got a Polish girl pregnant, she's about two and a half months along. At first, she hated the idea of having the babies (twins) elsewhere, but lately she seems a bit more open to it. Does anyone know how I can get this young expectant mother back to America with me? Is she "home free", visa-wise, by virtue of being pregnant with an American's brood? Any help in this regard would be great. Thanks for your time.
Ogien 6 | 245
16 Jan 2010 #2
If this pregnancy was unintentional between you two then all I can say is that you're a ******* idiot. It's a sad thing that a moron has to breed.
Switek - | 59
16 Jan 2010 #3
I guess that more than half of mankind was conceived unintentionally, what's logic by nature itself, so Ogien stop comment stop comment on someone's sex life and don't post if you have nothing constructive to suggest those two whose life will change diametrically soon. You're the last person to judge others unless you're current Jesus incarnation, then I'd apologize.

Congratulations for you jasonmzk, and your girlfriend!
skysoulmate 14 | 1,297
16 Jan 2010 #4
I got a Polish girl pregnant, she's about two and a half months along. At first, she hated the idea of having the babies (twins) elsewhere, but lately she seems a bit more open to it. Does anyone know how I can get this young expectant mother back to America with me? Is she "home free", visa-wise, by virtue of being pregnant with an American's brood? Any help in this regard would be great. Thanks for your time.

Jason - if the babies are born in the US (congrats btw and I mean it!) they'll automatically get the US citizenship. US is the only country I'm aware of that gives citizenship to kids who're born in the US even if the parents aren't US citizens; in most countries citizenship is related to parents' citizenship. That's why when Hong Kong was about to be handed over to China thousands of pregnant Chinese women would come to the US to give birth - they wanted a back up plan and now there are thousands of kids in Hong Kong with a US passport.

Without sounding racist - this has been practiced by Mexican mothers for generations and that's how the term "anchor babies" came about - the US authorities seldom attempt to expel mothers to US citizens as they know someone has to take care of those children. Kids -since they are American citizens - cannot be expelled (there are exceptions, usually when the mother commits a crime).

So basically if your girlfriend's (and yours of course) babies are born in the US the chances of her being expelled are very remote. However, it'll be a real pain to deal with it because as an illegal alien she won't technically have a job permit.

My suggestion - you move to Poland and marry her there - apply for a spouse visa permit for her from Poland (might take 6-12 months) - a pain in the butt but once she has her paper work y'alls life will be so much better. Friend of mine went through this with his wife a year or so ago (she is Japanese who used to have a Brasilian passport :)

If she decides later to return back to Poland when the kids turn 18 they'll have to choose what citizenship they want to maintain (unless Poland allows dual citizenship).

Hope this helps.

Good luck to you both!
Ogien 6 | 245
16 Jan 2010 #5
I guess that more than half of mankind was conceived unintentionally, what's logic by nature itself

What are you going on about? It's the year 2010 and we have many advanced contraceptive techniques to use to avoid pregnancy if you really have to have sex. All I'm saying is that if this jackass wasn't planning on having a baby then he is clearly irresponsible and in lack of intelligence.
BrutalButcher - | 391
16 Jan 2010 #6
What an idiot...baby=easy way to get a visa.
Wroclaw Boy
16 Jan 2010 #7
I dont think thats the case here, how many women are willing to throw away their lives i.e get pregnant with a man they dont love and have babies in order to gain a visa. Thats like cutting off the head to cure the head ache.

Is she "home free", visa-wise, by virtue of being pregnant with an American's brood?

What a way with words.
Switek - | 59
16 Jan 2010 #8
What are you going on about? It's the year 2010 and we have many advanced contraceptive techniques to use to avoid pregnancy if you really have to have sex.

When you invent or discover proven 100% effective contraceptive means (except "having no sex at all", homosexual acts, masturbation or castration) you will become one of the richest man on Earth.

All I'm saying is that if this jackass wasn't planning on having a baby then he is clearly irresponsible and in lack of intelligence.

We humans have been given something what is called sexual desire what switch off logic, decency and sometimes moral brakes. In fact having kids is never a result (even if it's intentional) of logic based decision. Learn more in evolutionary psychology. Interesting study.
BrutalButcher - | 391
16 Jan 2010 #9
I dont think thats the case here, how many women are willing to throw away their lives i.e get pregnant with a man they dont love and have babies in order to gain a visa. Thats like cutting off the head to cure the head ache.

The odds for her to have done it for a green-card and a better life for her baby are kind of high. Let's face it, women would do anything for their and their children's future.
Wroclaw Boy
16 Jan 2010 #10
Let's face it, women would do anything for their and their children's future.

How can she do anything for her childrens future when she didnt have any when she decided to do it. If thats the case she got pregnant for a green card not for her children. She would have been better off marrying him and then applying right.

Contrary to popular belief most Poles are not too worried about visas anymore, they have the whole of Europe to choose from and Canada is just as accessible for them as it is me. The US is difficult for any European to get a visa let alone Poles but do you see Germans lining up getting pregnant with idiot yanks like the OP?

The odds for her to have done it for a green-card and a better life for her baby are kind of high.

What makes you think the US provides a better life than most European countries. I can promise you its not easy in the US.
Ogien 6 | 245
16 Jan 2010 #11
When you invent or discover proven 100% effective contraceptive means (except "having no sex at all", homosexual acts, masturbation or castration) you will become one of the richest man on Earth.

HAHAHA! Birth control/condoms have like a 1% failure rate. It's VERY unlikely that they used either of those. (assuming the pregnancy was unintentional)
Wroclaw Boy
16 Jan 2010 #12
I don't remember seeing a pregnant woman in the last 4 months!

Ok Fine it is pretty cold out there. But please come back on the better life in the US point you raised. What makes you think its so good?

One country i really wouldnt want to live is the US.
Ogien 6 | 245
16 Jan 2010 #13
We humans have been given something what is called sexual desire what switch off logic, decency and sometimes moral brakes. In fact having kids is never a result (even if it's intentional) of logic based decision. Learn more in evolutionary psychology. Interesting study.

Yet most responsible adults are able to overcome their sexual desires with logic.

You're saying having kids is never a result of logic based decision? If you really think that then you're an idiot.
mephias 11 | 304
16 Jan 2010 #14
jasonmz

Congratulations you will be a father soon and it is good to see you are carrying the responsiblity.

I don't think she will gain any right because of pregnancy best thing to do seems to get married and then searching for the way to move there.
Ogien 6 | 245
16 Jan 2010 #15
America simply cannot continue taking so many immigrants. It is hurting the overall economy. People are already having enough competition with illegal immigrants. More immigrants is just going to **** us up more.

Unless you're an engineer, don't come to America.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
16 Jan 2010 #16
Unless you're an engineer, don't come to America

Why would an engineer come to America? You're being outbred by Mexicans, your economy is in shambles etc.
Ogien 6 | 245
16 Jan 2010 #17
There are plenty of opportunities for engineers in America. America is in demand for more of them especially since very few American students become engineers. Also, the salary for engineers in America is pretty damn high. I'm pretty sure American engineers are paid more than most European engineers...
OP jasonmzk 1 | 2
16 Jan 2010 #18
Thanks, and heartily, to all your kind suggestions and opinions. Especially helpful were the well-learned estimations of my wife's integrity and my own intelligence and sexual temperance. Really, you've made me reconsider bringing my burgeoning twosome up anywhere else! Sadly, tho, as to the original question, "how do I get a pregnant woman to America?" seemed too specious a dilemna for the more high-minded types among you to trouble themselves with. I apologize for sullying your forum's good name with my petty squawking. I'll go back to what I'm good at, mindless fornicating with my green card hungry baby mama. Good day, sirs.
skysoulmate 14 | 1,297
16 Jan 2010 #19
One country i really wouldnt want to live is the US.

That's good news because we do NOT want you here either. If I misunderstood your post's intent, I'm sorry. However, you know, I too am a Wrocław Boy, or used to be as a kid but I don't see why I should be demeaning toward your current country, whatever it happens to be? If you don't like those "idiot yanks" fine, just stay away.

This thread was about a guy who came here for advice, not to be lectured about not using condoms or whether one country sucks more than the other.

I hope things work out for them both, lots of families out there who'd absolutely love to have a child, not to mention twins!

...and Jason - do some research and I'm sure things will work out for you. Let me know what state you live in and I might be able to find an immigration attorney you can talk to. Usually an hour or so is enough to learn your options. You both will be fine, this is good news despite some of the doom & gloom here...
mephias 11 | 304
16 Jan 2010 #20
jasonmzk

Just ignore that racist idiots. If you want to learn something about your subject this is the place (maybe from someone who has similar experience). But it can take some time, ignore the idiots and have a nice time.
nomaderol 5 | 726
16 Jan 2010 #21
"how do I get a pregnant woman to America?"

Why getting and making her tired of travels, etc, you selfish? Go and live in Poland.
Switek - | 59
16 Jan 2010 #22
Yet most responsible adults are able to overcome their sexual desires with logic.

It's commonly believed denial.

You're saying having kids is never a result of logic based decision?

When you learn more from latest psychological research results you have chance to understand this process.

If you really think that then you're an idiot.

Do you know what projection is? Never mind... Personal insult attempt says that you're out of merit arguments. You proved who you are yourself. Epic fail indeed.
OP jasonmzk 1 | 2
16 Jan 2010 #23
I don't think you're wrong, man. My votes a lil biased, maybe..
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
16 Jan 2010 #24
jasonmzk

I don't think it is enough that you and your partner are having children to get her an American green card. Marriage is probably the best way but I would not advise marriage unless you want to, not because you need to. If you know what I mean.
skysoulmate 14 | 1,297
16 Jan 2010 #25
I don't think it is enough that you and your partner are having children to get her an American green card.

IF her kids are born in the US the kids (not the mom) will automatically become US citizens - they won't need a green card. That's the law.

However the mom will need to apply for a green card. Unless she marries the father and then she'll get a work permit 12-18 months later and a temporary green card a year thereafter. After 5 years as a green card holder (sometimes 3) she can become a citizen if she wants.

Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution - July 9, 1868, -

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.[2

Birthright citizenship in the United States of America refers a person's acquisition of United States citizenship by virtue of the circumstances of his or her birth. It contrasts with citizenship acquired in other ways, for example by naturalization later in life. Birthright citizenship may be conferred either by jus soli and jus sanguinis.

Under United States law, any person born within the United States (including the overseas territories of Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the Northern Mariana Islands) and subject to its jurisdiction is automatically granted U.S. citizenship, [1] as are many (though not all) children born to American citizens overseas.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
16 Jan 2010 #26
IF her kids are born in the US

Ah, I got the impression that they were in Poland.
I could be wrong of course.
skysoulmate 14 | 1,297
16 Jan 2010 #27
You're right but he was talking about trying to her her to the US.

Does anyone know how I can get this young expectant mother back to America with me? Is she "home free", visa-wise, by virtue of being pregnant with an American's brood?

The advantage of doing that - the kids become US citizens automatically.

The disadvantage - the green card process for the kid's mom will be more complicated.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
16 Jan 2010 #28
At first, she hated the idea of having the babies (twins) elsewhere

Doesnt sound like she did it for a visa.

but lately she seems a bit more open to it.

Maybe she doesnt relish the idea of being a single mother in Poland, so her choices are limited if she does want to be with the father.

Does anyone know how I can get this young expectant mother back to America with me?

Sounds like a guy who wants to do the right thing.

Blimey so many negative things and I agree with WW, life (from what I have been told) in America isnt some easy ride, she would receive health care in Poland with no problem, no having to have expensive private insurance.

America simply cannot continue taking so many immigrants. It is hurting the overall economy.

You could fit GB in one of your huge lakes...so stop whining, we have bigger problems here! He wasnt suggesting she be an illegal immigrant, he was suggesting a visa route.

As for her falling pregnant, it doesnt sound like she did it on purpose, contraception fails, I had a friend get pregnant on the injection pill which is supposed to be almost impossible!

I'm pretty sure American engineers are paid more than most European engineers...

Its all relative - but I can find out what our Engineers are paid in our offices in the States if you like, I doubt very much they are paid any more than our Engineers in the UK, but then again I suppose it depends on what kind of Engineer you are it covers a broad spectrum, wouldnt you agree?
nomaderol 5 | 726
16 Jan 2010 #29
Under United States law, any person born within the United States (including the overseas territories of Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the Northern Mariana Islands) and subject to its jurisdiction is automatically granted U.S. citizenship, [1] as are many (though not all) children born to American citizens overseas.

What a democratic law (pun, fun intended.)
If US allowed overseas women who have got pregnant from US guys, then, millions of women and children around the world could have filled the US and could have made population about 1 billion. Think Iraq now. I guess tens of tousands of women have been forcefully made pregnant there by US soldiers. If those children knock the door of USA soon, don't be surprised. Those fathers should live in Iraq. And, USA have to pay their costs of those families.
Ogien 6 | 245
16 Jan 2010 #30
Its all relative - but I can find out what our Engineers are paid in our offices in the States if you like, I doubt very much they are paid any more than our Engineers in the UK, but then again I suppose it depends on what kind of Engineer you are it covers a broad spectrum, wouldnt you agree?

How much money does an electrical engineer make on average in the UK?


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