Life / Are Poles bigots and xenophobes? [205]


At least we'd be able to read it. How about we send you a Polish-language textbook? And ours will have a passage on Darwin and the theory of evolution, I've heard that America is in a need of those.

Life / Are Poles bigots and xenophobes? [205]

Dear God... A person from Texas of all places accuses Poles of being xenophobes by pointing out to examples which are happening world-wide and there are actually people who agree with her... I'm laughing my ass off right now. How's Tea Party and Westboro Baptist Church, by the way? Well? Great!

Life / What makes a "real" Pole? [33]

The problem with Polish Americans is that they do many things differently than we do in Poland yet they claim to experts on Poland. Sometimes, they say complete bullshit and since they called themselves Polish then everyone will take their words at a face value. So, if they say "I'm Polish and we call our grandma 'busha'" everyone will think "They're Polish so they must be right" even though it's completely different over here. It's even worse if they say something racist or stupid, then they give all of us a bad impression.


Uff, I'm glad I pass this requirement!

Genealogy / Fabianowicz name [5]

Don't look at the ending because about 1/4 of all Polish surnames have it, so it doesn't matter where it originated from 800 years ago. I have to agree with Delphiandomine here, there are no pure blooded Poles, everyone is part-something. The spelling, however, is definitely Polish, I don't think there exists any other language with 'cz'.

History / Maus by Vladek Spiegelman - animals to represent Poles? [68]

Not really. There needs to be a living Jewish witness for a person to be given title of a Righteous.

History / Maus by Vladek Spiegelman - animals to represent Poles? [68]


Well, we're the only ones who are collectively punished for those 'some people' and treated as a symbol of antisemitism and collaboration.

History / Maus by Vladek Spiegelman - animals to represent Poles? [68]

I don't believe that his choice to portray Poles as pigs was made in good faith. In Polish culture comparing someone to a pig is offensive, Jews hold pigs in even lower regards. Don't tell me Spiegelman wasn't aware of that. Plus, he grew up in France and, as I've noticed, between firebombing attacks on synagogues the Franch love to make a stop to discuss Polish antisemitism. He didn't even bother to get the names right ("Richieu", really?)

News / Is Poland headed for a civil war? [30]


Students ;)

I find it really strange that the guy claimed to have been trying to kill Kaczyński, yet he travelled to £ódź in order to kill him, even though everyone knows that Kaczyński is living in Warsaw. If it were anyone else, I would be suspecting that the whole incident was staged in order to blame PO, but Kaczyński isn't the sort of guy who would have random people murdered just to make Tusk look bad.

History / How Poland views Europe [44]

- Czech, Finland: wrong. Poles generally sterotype themselves as biggest drunks in the world, with Russians as the only competitors. Czechs are usually more associated with funny language and Finland with nothing in particular.

- For Netherlands I would use "legal ganja". I've known people who planned vacations there just because they wanted to try it.
- Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine: no, no, no. Nobody would think of them as just colonies but rather as a part of Poland, lands which rightfully belong to Poland. And, as everyone knows, Lithuanians and Ukrainians are really Poles in denial ;)

- Turkey: Let's be frank - many Poles wouldn't even know what a minaret is. The most common association is kebab.
-Uk, Ireland - who the hell thinks of potatoes when hearing of Ireland? They're the ones we jokingly call our colonies, or Poland 2.0, or just jobs

History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]


Gladly. You said:


Given that there is no proof or even a hint of Dariush's Ukrainian/Belarussian ancestry, your statement clearly shows that you meant full-blooded Poles. It also clearly shows that you consider it a historical fact that there have been a considerable number of such full-blooded Poles in Trawniki. Otherwise, that statement of yours simply wouldn't make any sense whatsoever, (so it's the difference between you lying or spitting crap without thinking it through)


I didn't say anything about him because I've missed him. But searching around now I haven't yet found any proof of his supposed ethnic Polishness, therefore you calling him a Pole and me calling him a non-Pole is equally correct.


Of course, there might have been an odd one there, just as there might have been an odd one Jew in the disguise there. yet, strangely, I can't picture you telling our Jewish members that they might have been another of the Jews who trained at Trawniki before serving at the Aktion Reinhard camps.

History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]


Partially. Chopin was half-French and Copernicus was half-German. I recognize and respect this. if Chopin had said "I will write polonaise because I want to spite France" I would consider him fully Polish. Likewise, if someone who's only vaguely-Polish decides of his own free will to work against Poland with people who coincidentally happen to be vaguely-related to him as well, I shall respect his choice too. And no matter how hard he tries to save his skin later, it doesn't change that fact.


Oh, sorry, I mistook Belarus with Ukraine. Kinda like you constantly mistake Belarussians with Poles.


You're so sure of that? Find me a quote about his full ancestry and identification at the moment of recruitment (and no, later claims inspired by the desire to save their skin aren't a proof of anything) and then we're talk. Because before you do that, your claim has just as much (less, in fact)truth value as mine. Which means that if you believe yourself justified to call them Poles then I am more than justified to call them non-Poles

Your comments say a lot about you - you were presented with two contradictory facts:
1. A person is born on the territories which were previously under Poland's temporary domination.
2. These territories were considered by the natives to be another country. The Poles were a minority on them. The people you listed had mostly non-Polish surnames or had simply never been considered Poles. Persons of fully ethnic Polish ancestry were not permitted to be recruited to the SS. Trawniki is widely identified by pretty much everyone as a training place for non-Poles.

And yet, presented with these facts, you choose to believe that they were Polish and nothing but. Worse - you implied that it was a general rule to recruit Poles at aTrawniki. This speaks of a disgusting bias and prejudice, Harry.


Gasping at straws and then turning around and calling me a liar when your own lie was exposed. It's so sad to see a grown man act like a teenager.

To all, please keep it civil. Thank you.

News / POLAND IS 4TH BEST PLACE TO LIVE IN EUROPE [60]

Someone should inform them that what seems cheap to a British person is f*cking expensive to a Pole.

History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]


You misspelled Саванюк


Whose biography states "His prospects under Polish rule were limited. He was rebuffed as an usuitable match by the parents of a Polish girl he had fallen in love with. The Soviet occupation improved the status of Belarussians and lowered that of Poles, so Szymon was then able to marry the younger sister of his beloved."


Палій


Can't find anything on his ancestry, only his place of birth (Ukraine).


Buried at the Ukrainian cemetary.


nor were they ever recruited under assumption of being Polish. Even if some vaguely Polish individual was trained there, he likely kept it a secret. Therefore your statement:


Is a big, fat lie. And don't try to flounce now and claim that i don't believe any Pole has ever harmed a Jew (many did) - I was arguing solely against your big, fat lie about the masses of Poles trained at Trawniki.

History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]


Ukarinians born in Poland still identified as Ukrainians. Hiwis were Soviet POWs and whatever good or evil they did, they did it in the name of the Soviet nations, not Poland. I shall respect their choice and refrain from calling them Polish.

History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]


They were called 'Ukrainians' by Poles for a reason, you know.

As for Irving - he's what I call an antisemite not conscious of his antisemitism. The one who THINKS that he's not prejudiced but whenever he's presented with contradictory facts he always chooses to believe the one which is unfavourable to Jews. It could be said that he is to Jews what Harry is to Poles ;)

Genealogy / Polish nationality? Which of the following (if any) determine being Polish. [231]


People adopt all sorts of things fromt heir parents, not all of which are part of the Polish culture. After all, there are Polish Americans who consider being racist and calling their grandma 'busha' to be a part of Polish culture.

Furthermore, not even bothering to learn the language is a spit in the face to our ancestors who struggled to keep it alive when Poland was partitioned.

Genealogy / Polish nationality? Which of the following (if any) determine being Polish. [231]


I agree with this. If a person has never lived in Poland then they can't know what life in Poland is like. They can be proud of their Polish ancestry but they can't speak in the name of Poles.

History / Poles organized the first strike in US in 1619 [72]

I chuckled at king polkakamon's comment but I have to agree with pawian - it's a duty of every human being to protest against injustice.

Genealogy / Polish Gypsy Roots & Roma ancestors in their families [206]

cyganysue
Adamski is a regular Polish surname, there are 13 000 people with this surname in Poland. The name of the village doesn't mean anything because villages in Poland are very often named after other countries, capitals and nationalities.

The name 'Ęrnie' is the only real hint that he might not have been ethnically Polish. I guess it depends whether your great-grandfather was born in Poland (in which case it's quite possible that he might have been a Gypsy) or in US (in which case it's most probably just a misspelling of the name Ernie)

Work / Black English Teacher going to Wroclaw [247]

trener zolwia
I will adress your comment in zetigrek's thread.

Work / Black English Teacher going to Wroclaw [247]


You honestly think that a little child would suddenly come up with an idea that a black person is automatically worse than a white person, all on their own? Without anyone 'helping' them, even not counciously? I 'm pretty sure if this study was done in an african country, the kids would pick black dolls over white ones which would be seen as diffeent and abnormal just as black people are seen in white societies.

This thread is going off topic! The OP wanted advice about living in Wrocław.

Work / Black English Teacher going to Wroclaw [247]

He also got an insult from Sokrates, apparently. And everyone agrees that he should carry a peper spray. And it's not like we never hear of black people being harrassed in Poland, so his concerns are not all that unfounded.

Work / Black English Teacher going to Wroclaw [247]


I' would've also been cautious if I wanted to move to a country where I would be the first white person most people there have met. it's natural to ask about these matters.


Yeah, I think i've seen them in a thread where someone asked about similarities between Polish and Hungarian languages. He said that the only thing Poles and Hungarians have in common is being evil, murderous antisemites. But his comment was deleted soon after, so i can't confirm if it was really him. But the overall tone was the same, the comment was just as trollish and offtopic and i recognize his name. If I'm wrong, I apologize.

Work / Black English Teacher going to Wroclaw [247]

And hopefully the future too :)

Work / Black English Teacher going to Wroclaw [247]

CzarDaniel
As a Polish person I agree with what other people told you. I don't think you will encounter a situation so extreme that nobody would want to be taught by you but I do agree that as a black man you're a natural target for thugs and as a foreigner you will be seen as rich and easy to take advantage of (I know a man who was charged three times too much by a fake taxi driver, because the driver thought that foreigners are rich and won't notice). I second the idea of carrying a pepper spray, I don't think you'll need it but it's always safer to have it. And you will definitely be stared at a lot. I hope you have a good time!

Lyzko

This is the second or third time I see you rant about "those evil Poles!"
Besides, you're quite wrong. I, for one, am very proud of Poland's Jewish past.

Genealogy / One parent Polish, the other one German - their children? [16]


Well, I went to high school with a guy I thought was a perfectly regular Pole, until I found out that one of his parents was German and the other was Ukrainian. So the answer is -No.

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


They're not doing it in order to hide. They're doing this under a naive belief that 'God will cure' them.

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]


That's an interesting opinion for a Polish woman. You are, of course, aware that gender pay gap in Poland is largest in Europe approaching 30%?

Life / Any treatment centres for homos in Poland? [455]

Great idea, Polonius. And while we're at it, someone should post address of a clinic offering medical treatment for men who enjoy prnography, anal and oral sex and - ew! - 'doggy style'. It's disgusting, immoral and against nature. The only proper sex is between man and a woman, in missionary position in bed and for the purpose of procreation.

Food / Differences between famous obwarzanki from Krakow & bagels? [5]

Bagels are much less dense and not as sweet, which is why you can cut them through and make a sandwich. You can't do that with obwarzanki, you can only eat them as a snack, never as a breakfast meal.