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aphrodisiac   
6 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

That is what the Ukrainian nationalists comitted.

agree, but it looks like both side have to deal with it in a different way. I wish I can turn the history but it is out of my hands and how the conflict will be resolved is up the to the present generation.

Maybe Yanukovich is doing the right thing by reversing the Hero status. It has upset a lot of people and he is being a wise politician.
aphrodisiac   
6 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

Truly, it is not a conflict. We have good and friendly relations with Ukraine and the hatchet has been buried.

that was my perception too.

so in Ukraine, UPA is only heroic to the minority

true and most of UPA soldiers are dead anyways.
aphrodisiac   
7 Mar 2010
Love / They seem nice, but could Polish girls be "gold diggers"? [196]

Truth is not 'relative' and therefore does not change depending on the forum.

where did I say anything about it being relative I must ask?

Of course with liberals and feminists objective truth is indeed 'relative', and slippery.

Of course, after all it is YOU commenting on my post addressed to somebody else. You just cannot help yourself, can you? I think we already had a discussion about things and I have moved on, you, on the other hand are still stuck in the whole you have been digging under yourself.
aphrodisiac   
8 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

not addressed to me, but I will reply with quoting an article from Polityka ( a Polish weekly) written by Daniel Passent:
passent.blog.polityka.pl/?p=672

where he states that even though Poland feels like a representation of a Western civilization towards Eastern countries, she still has a long way to go in order to catch up implementing those values herself. The example given by the author is: Alicja Tysiac (just an eample among many others discussed in the article- who was shunned for her choice of abortion, is only one of the cases of the violation of human rights in Poland.

And further he states:
The border on Oder and Nysa used to be a country border. Now is it becoming a border of values systems, which gradually cross over into our country and is it hard to see in what way ( and why) that should be prevented.

[b][b]I think that the author has a good point when pointing that before one points fingers at anybody else, one needs to be an example of those Western values first.


s[/b][/b]so comments like:
But - in any case - Poles are trying to choose your heros. is a good illustration of what I was trying to convey in my reply.
aphrodisiac   
8 Mar 2010
Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]

*backs out of thread slowly....very slowly....*

wise choice:)

Many of my Jewish friends tell me its natural for GERMans to be evil.

you seem to prove them right with producing posts like that.
aphrodisiac   
8 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

Daniel Passent was a prominent communist journalist.

show me where his comment was communist? I actually predicted your reaction to it to be honest.

He continues to be red and describes all from left wing perspective.

Show me where his perspective on what he was commenting had an air of left - winginess.

However he's your homey - as a Jewish survivor from Stanisławów - now Ukrainian Ivano-Frankiwsk.

I don't see how your comment is relevant to the topic. Please explain. I think that he made some excellent points. If you want to choose heroes of Ukraine then how come you find Passent annoying? He pointed out that Poland feels as a representation of the Western values, therefore assumes an superior stand in relationship to Ukraine ( I am not making this up, I have read many posts like that on PF), while she has a long way to go in order to claim to be a bastion of the said values:)

I used his article because he seems to have a grasp of what is partially happening in this thread.

I don't think Poles are trying to choose their heroes. Nazi Ukrainians want their hero status restored. That is a bit much...

I have no idea how you came to such a conclusion. Staibnach is Stainbach and she is a revisionist. Some posters on this forum are revisionist when it comes to Ukraine because they want part of it back. I don't use that card but rather try to stick to the topic.
aphrodisiac   
8 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

I haven't written his comment was communist. I've written he WAS a prominent communist journalist. So, in fact, I have no willingness to read him today. I can recall some of his deceitful comments from 80s. I have enough of him. I don't read him - the biggest revenge I want (and can) execute upon him.

Then you did not read his comment then. I understand.

If you actually predicted your reaction, so what is your post for?

I posted it because I partly agree with his points.

To expose my mental weakness? ;-)

No, I don't know you well enough :).

Maybe you can consider, if he has some motives or sensitivities in his journalism common with Ukrainian journalists or opinion makers.

you might be onto something but if Jews were badly treated in Ukraine, then your logic does not make sense;)
aphrodisiac   
8 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

point taken. It would NOT be practical to say the least.

But there is one reason for which it's important to stick to the facts: facts are important in themselves, otherwise we end up with a Ministry of truth.

You lost me here.

So: don't exaggerate by saying that Poles were oppressors which is proven by slaying Poles. German Nazis proved that Poles were slaves by slaying Poles. We were and are neither of those things.

and where in my post did I say it? Poles oppressed Ukrainians - true. I repeat. Ukrainians were oppressed by Poles. Just to clarify in case you will run into denial again.

Now - did I try to pretend that Poland did not take down Churches, interfere with religion, ignore Ukrainian language? NOT. I said that was a wrong and stupid thing to do, though the leaders of the time thought it a good stratagem in the Russian conflict. But - to hack families to pieces??? UPA were as barking mad as Dirlewanger.

I never said such a thing, have I? Never mind what has driven the Poles to do that. I am not getting into that.

What I told you in November: at the time you were gaining a national Conscience, where you thought about yourselves as Ukrainians, instead as 'from here'.

I am not sure what you are referring to? Are you referring the the Orange revolution by any chance? If that is the case then I was in Poland at that time and I saw the immense support of Poles. However, I would like to to inform that for an average Ukrainian, me included, I have never though of myself : I am from there, so I find your comment tad patronizing to be honest.

I understand a lot of what happened, and that we stood in your way to your own identity.

No you did not, don't assume that much. When Poles were in Ukraine, they did, but they are not longer there, so there is no problem.

You have been aggressive. (I'm assuming you're Ukrainian from previous comments). And that's fine, this is not a peaceful land, there had been wars before. But to hack families to pieces???

Again, please stop being patronizing.

There is also the thing of Soviet regime, you were on the red side,

I was not there during those time, so I think that this comment is irrelevant, however I understand what you are trying to say.

So, the state of today - the borders are coming down, trips are going abroad to see Ukraine, it's pretty.

well, it is nice to see that you liked it.

I may buy property there. I hope you welcome my money.

Go ahead, I have nothing against it. If the government of Ukraine allows other nationalities to purchase property, it is up to them. I have no saying it this to be honest.

From what I understand, Ukraine is a separate country now and is interested in good trading, economic and political relationship with Poland, but this is it. It should be good enough for both parties, me thinks.
aphrodisiac   
8 Mar 2010
Life / Mixed race girl in Poland, good idea? [149]

well, I have to agree with most of the points here. Good post.

Yeah, cut the philosophising and start to come to terms with reality, enkidu.

I think he already did tell you what he thinks and what you think about what he thinks is not going to change it LOL
aphrodisiac   
9 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

Uff, thanks for having a mature discussion.

it is hard, isn't it?

The 'from here' is not about patronizing someone, this is what people anywhere in the world call themselves before the modernist idea of nationality is popularized. Before nationalities there were villages, communities, Kings to identify oneself with. That's all I was saying.

I think it still prevails to a large degree. Unless somebody is a globetrotter. Most people derive their identity, including national identity from the place of their origin.

I watched a documentary about Hungarian Jews, who finally went to visit their home town after many years of living in another country and one of them said: this is home, this feels like home, so maybe this is what you were trying to convey here?

I really am not being patronizing, I am talking about the victims and the grief, not about being 'better'. Not sure why another nation seems to think we are cold, patronizing, aloof and other things. It's really simple - we are both proud and shy, not: feeling better, simply feeling not at home. That really is all.

point taken. Thank you.
aphrodisiac   
10 Mar 2010
Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]

Women retire earlier in Poland than men.

yes, but their pensions are lower because of that.

s that true? Even though women on average live 5-10 years longer than men?

at 55, but it results in financial disadvantage as far as I know.

Women in Poland can have a year of maternity leave vs. up to 6 weeks in the US.

Valentines Day is for both male and females but in Poland they think it's for women.

I doubt it:)

Polish women are spoiled.

In what sense ?
aphrodisiac   
10 Mar 2010
Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]

So is that mandatory or voluntary?

it is optional I think, but not 100%. My mother was sort of "forced" to retire during the communism time at 55 I believe.

If women are forced to retire early and thus suffer lower pensions/retirement benefits why isn't anyone suing for sexism and gender discrimination?

good point. Not only financially she did not but also socially - she really liked her work and once she retired, she deteriorated really quickly and was not the same person anymore. I am sure it is not the case with other women, but there is definately a change of a life style involved, although some might think that it only effects men.

Sexism and discrimination in Poland is part of the country make up and I am not sure if you noticed but just judging by the posters from Poland, women's rights are made fun of.

However, once Poland joined the EU in 2005, Poles, or Polish women can take their case to EU court in Strasburg, but I don't know off hand whether such cases have been processed. I am sure this could be googled.
aphrodisiac   
10 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

To us, the national processes meant that all the various local tribes, Mazovians, Lemkos, Germans even

lol, I was really trying hard to take what you write seriously, but I think that you cannot be. German tribes lol.

What you have done in Ukraine was to sign out of the Common Thing for a separate national interest. It's like separating a part of Canada or US on the basis that a majority of, say, Puerto-Ricans live there.

you are loosing me again.

Nation should not matter, citizenship matters for us.

make up your mind, you are confused. It is irrelevant what matters to you really.

So when you are saying that Ukrainians were suffering for the Kingdom to rise back from the ashes - you should have suffered more. You should have made sacrifices like the children in Warsaw Uprising. You would have now belonged to what will be made beautiful again. But you sided with the Devil, and the Devil, Stalin, had starved you to death.

oh, so now you are changing the tune. Interesting.

You know what? Go back to writing you silly blog, at least there will be less people exposed to the rubbish you keep producing. Unbelievable stuff indeed.

I really, really tried to see some light in your posts but it appears that my effort was futile.

Good luck with buying the house in the Ukraine, I would reconsider if I were you lol

Please, don't bother with replying, I rather you spent your time on something else.
aphrodisiac   
10 Mar 2010
Life / Polish (in comparison to English and Indian) have amazing culture [71]

hi i am 35 yr old settled in UK past 10 yrs, orginaly from India, had a arranged marriage but had a real hard time, got divorced, dated few english women, more tough time then finally came to know about polish women and culture, dated few again and then found the woman of my life.

translation:
I finally found somebody who I like and I get along with her, she happens to be Polish, so I will better go on Polish forums and spread the good news. I am so happy, so I will put in on the net.


hi, do you do louis vuitton?

TiT emerged from his basement, free association produced.

If you had gotten laid by a German or Brazilian girl you would be thinking they were the best. The fact you focused on sex and drinking in your comparisons show your priorities.

translation: well, at least he is getting laid on regular basis, I will try to ruin it for him, because I am NOT;(

I'm missing the column markers.

translation: I have not been able to read it (badly edited) therefore I am withholding my judgement.

no no no, i am not talking about sex.

its about love, to like a person in full and so on. well i am only saying polish women are balance between british and indian women- which is good

yes i reposted it , i didnt expect the column to disappear when i submited it

translation: I am happy.

I am simply saying Polish women are no different than any other women from developed "westernized" nations.

translation: well, I am gonna ruin it for you, since I was there once and I would love to be there again, but I am not. I let my trousers be the guide and I got burnt, well.......misguided I guess. I am not sure which, but why would he be happy while I am not.

LOL
translation: I am just living in a moment and I really don't care what you think. I am HAPPY.
[quote=beelzebub]Love is not what you feel when you are flying high in the beginning. That is lust. Love is what replaces lust after a longer term. Love is not a magical feeling it is trust built on experience.

If people would realize this more often there would be a lot less relationship troubles. Too many people make huge choices and have kids etc during the "flying high" period.

translation: he is not getting it, I'd better explain how he feels because he doesn't know any better. Luckily, I can advice him since I am more aware and experienced in the matters of love. (Well, the bastard is getting laid and I am not).

well i want to love her now and in 10 yrs and in 20 yrs and in 30 yrs and in....

translation:
I am committed. I made up my mind. I was looking for a long time and I finally found it. I am HAPPY.


Polish women are the best for third wordlers.
I don't know how they eat so much bullsh1t.Dumb by nature?Simply if you wanted to fek an indian woman who looked like sh1t you had to marry her,if you wanted to fek an English you had to be at least white while polish is the least common denominator.That's why you go polish.
Sorry man,we are not dumb polish girls to eat dumb grass.We are people of Balkans with penises like machine guns.No way dumb sh1t passes here.

translation: I have not been as lucky as he is with all the ATM money, the Grecian formula, the sleek walk I have, fok- what does he have that I don't have. I am gonna ruing it for him for sure. Bastard.

which you call third world, china and india?

lol mate you need to look at economic times

translation: who are those punks???? lol

India is the definition of third world.Like I said before we as realists know and what we know is the obvious that India is a place where the average GDP per person is 2000$ which puts it in third world.The salaries,the hygiene conditions and the infrastructure also puts it in the third world.You see we are not dumb like polish girls.

translation: I am going to pep talk him with the Economist Issue 2009 I found at the doctor's office/ariport/recycle bin.
[
quote=Filios1]Stupid, naiive, trying to get back at their family, Polish girls sleeping with some dirty pakis? Doesn't sound too out of the ordinary to me.[/quote]
translation: still cannot get a Polish girl. Damn. I am gonna pick this hair gel tomorrow. This should do it.

Yes,total degradation.Nice to see you again Filios.Lots of petso-boys here.

translation: yes, we need to defend our stand of PF, after all we scared most of people with a single comment. This is our space, where we rule - the Cyber Fronteer of Keeping it in the Pants for the lack of opportunities:)

THE END
aphrodisiac   
11 Mar 2010
Life / Polish (in comparison to English and Indian) have amazing culture [71]

Aphrodesiac you make so many assumptions.

I do? So does everybody else here.

Every man alive has been burnt and those who claim not to are liars. It was advice from experience. Only a moron would not learn from his experiences and I am quite sure you are a moron ;)

you are making assumptions;)
aphrodisiac   
11 Mar 2010
Life / Polish (in comparison to English and Indian) have amazing culture [71]

thanks, I had a lot of fun with it;)

Nah your replies showed you are a moron.

translation: ............fill in the blanks, the more assumptions, the better......:)

Thanks to the contributers of this thread for providing the material:).
aphrodisiac   
11 Mar 2010
Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]

Like here:

brilliant BB- thank God for another perspective, I guess if one wants jokes about their nationality one should just ask for them;)

*going into hidding*
aphrodisiac   
12 Mar 2010
Life / Womans day in Poland? [242]

translation: I hate women, I hate women, I hate women, I cannot control women, therefore I hate them, I fail to understand women, therefore I hate them. I am full of hate, but instead I will come across as a smart know it all, articulate patronizing male. If only they became my slaves and read my mind the way I want them to....grrrr...........

;)
aphrodisiac   
12 Mar 2010
Life / I'm from Polish descent. CAN YOU GUYS EXPLAIN THE EU TO ME? [115]

I honestly don't think that this is what the OP meant Bzibzi.
Are you saying that between 1989 and accession to the EU there was a total lawlessness in Poland? with the EU membership Poles can appeal to the Human Rights Court if they are wrongly treated by their domestic law. That is a great opportunity for those, who for the lack of better option have a chance to find the justice.

And speaking of lack of secular values you made it sound like Poland is ruled by the church

to a certain degree. Catholic church has put a lot of effort to dominate the lives of Polish citizens once the communist was no longer in power. There was a vacuum and CC filled the space, at least it tried.

There are secular values in Poland, but the question is to what degree.
Or do you mean that Poland is so backward as to not accept gay marriages, gay adoptions, state-sponsored abortion, euthanasia etc with open arms because it is such a brilliant idea and beneficial to us all?

not backward, less tolerant in comparison to other new members of EU.