Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


That's an interesting comment. Anybody disagree with that and if so please be specific.

Related to this, Camille Paglia in her book "Sexual Personae" which I highly recommend noted; "There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper."

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


Except for the fact that in the west women initiate 70 percent of all divorces. So much for keeping families together.


I just love how you still believe in the 'old wives tales' which uplift women while denying those that uplift men. It's all part of 'pick and choose feminism'[.

scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=women-feel-pain-more-intensely
Perhaps I should change my nom de plume to 'mythbuster'.


.....except when they often break down and cry for no accountable reasons. Perhaps I should also note when they nag, whine and sulk as well. Which of the two genders, statistically speaking, experiences more emotion - and would claim to? I would think that the more mentally stable person would be able to have less extreme emotions.

I have to laugh when I see how some posters keep talking about "equality" and then posit how women are better than men. Evidently, they believe in the Orwellian equality as noted in "Animal Farm".

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


Lots of women look to be offended, even when they are not. Just yesterday after I ordered my breakfast the middle aged waitress said, "coming right up sweetie". Should I have told her (using feminist logic) not to call me that? It's not unusual to be called "honey" or even "dear" by a waitress but maybe I should tell them to watch their language. I could explain to them that so many women now feel offended by being called personally 'endearing' names and that goes for me too. Is this yet another double standard that privileges women?


Okay, I'll warn my servers to watch themselves. I'll explain how 'patronising' and 'belittling' it is to be called "honey" or "sweetie' or "dear" especially by those who serve me for the first time.


I've given you many precise examples of double standards in some of my posts but you never comment in specific manner to any to them, nor does f2. As I've previously noted, your silence is loud.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


Now that's a mouthful. Who are these super beings blessed, nay gifted with such admirable traits? The only attribute you are correct on is the "self-destructive" one. Men take many more risks in many more venues than women do. Consequently, they lose big but they also win big. That seems to be true in dangerous life pursuits and in business.

As to women living longer that was never true until the last 100 years or so. Men's jobs frequently leave them disabled and even dead. For example, jobs such as painting houses and auto body work often contribute to shorter life spans as inhaling chemicals is not good for carbon life forms. Again, logic escapes those who are agenda prone.

You must have not looked at the link I posted as to who feels pain more. I'll repost it below.


LOL, a remarkable statement. It shows you know next-to-nothing about feminism. Inherently, feminism is leftist and once again I remind you of its Marxist origins. Nothing penetrates the naive mind though.


LOL, you are really making me chuckle today. Why don't you google the CATO institute to find out what real libertarianism is about.


She is yet another good woman who uses logic not emotion. That's why I've quoted and/or linked so many such women.


Of course it's individual like so many other things are but I'll repost this link;
scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=women-feel-pain-more-intensely
From the link: "For almost every diagnosis, women reported higher average pain scores than men. Women's scores were, on average, 20 percent higher than men's scores, according to the study."

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


Can you give me example of how you are oppressed?


In the U.S. feminists always support the Democratic Party. It's a virtual 100% support from the accepted established feminist leaders. Those who don't vote for the Democratic Party usually vote socialist or some other 3rd party associated with extreme leftism.


Would you be willing to post your alleged disadvantages when it comes to "equality"? If you do, I'll post some of the many advantages women have, at least in western cultures. Of course I'll post the disadvantages men have as well.

I only demand an honest discussion, an objective one and not the usual 'touchy-feely' nonsense filled with anecdotes instead of facts.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]

Taking care of a household is not so bad. I've been doing it even during my married days. Today, my dog helps me.

I had a neighbor who worked and his wife did the house chores. When their kids were in school she cleaned maybe once a week and usually only cooked one meal a day. Sometimes they ate out so she didn't cook at all. Additionally, sometimes they ordered food in.

She was up to date with all the soap operas she watched and she knew who the guests were on Ophra. Theirs was a division of labor although she had the better deal since she could parse her time to her personal pursuits. Her husband could not as he worked 5 and sometimes 6 days per week. He drove 25 miles each way to work. She spent - by far - most of the money on household and personal goods. Once could say that he made the money and she spent it. Her closet was 3 times the size of his (typical) and her personal needs vastly exceeded his.

Here's the corker: She joined a feminist book club and they told her how "enslaved" she was - (that) her husband should help her around the house, etc. Their personal relationship was permanently altered. She accused him of verbal assault although she was the one who frequently raised her voice. .....and so it goes.

There are many such cases described above and in various degrees of unnecessary dysfunction. I rarely provide one that is such a sketchy narrative, but it does illustrate how (too often) the modern American woman self deceives herself. Hopefully, individualist Polish women and their organizations have learned from the American feminists contribution in the destruction of families.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


Here is a "mentally stronger" American woman - not spoiled at all. Please watch the whole video (if you dare). The guy worked 60 hours that week and he wanted to do some stuff at home. His, ahem, wife shows how the "patriarchy" keeps her down. :)

liveleak.com/view?i=add_1374479949

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


I'm lying down and sipping wine while having my feet rubbed by a very lucky reformed feminist. Now, where's my Cohiba?


.....and eventually turns into vinegar.
The bacteria mycoderma aceti causes feminization, I mean fermentation in wine. The great philosopher Jack Nicholson put it succinctly.......
youtube.com/watch?v=wse_hgca220

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


Generally speaking he is correct. If you want a specific answer then ask me a specific question.
I've challenged f2, Englishman, and others at various times to answer several of my inquiries and they have failed because they could not respond logically to (my) points made. My links were unassailable and hateful quotes from feminist leaders are there to bewilder even the most staunch feminist.


I thought his comment in that movie was profound.
As to why Mr. Nicholson is a bit, shall we say, 'off center', perhaps this article helps clear it up.
todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/11/jack-nicholsons-supposed-sister-was-actually-his-mother


Your question presupposes something which is not true so it cannot be answered. As to women lacking "reason", I've often noted that so many rely on emotion, not logic. In fact, many feminists have written that logic is sexist. The same goes for "accountability" or the lack of it. Even in business, too many women (not all) rely on their sexuality instead of skill. It doesn't have to be overt but as you 'gals' know, subtle sexuality is something women throw out with great frequency.

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [395]

Poland is a land of many unknown heroes.

History / Communism fell 20 years ago, Poland led the fight since WW2 [339]


You know nothing! Embraced eh? After the war Poland was a devastated country losing millions of people as well as most of its infrastructure. The Soviet army imposed its will on Poland and Stalin made the decision to refuse the Marshall Plan for Poland. Perhaps history is too difficult for you.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


Why do you soft pedal this? Those people I've quoted "who call themselves feminists" as you put it were and continue to be the leaders of feminism. They carry the agenda in their works and their deeds. I've quoted the biggest leader of all in Gloria Steinem. I've quoted feminist icon Betty Friedan. I've quoted a feminist dean of a university. I've quoted feminist best selling authors, etc. They set the feminist agenda and are not women who merely "call themselves feminists".


Yes indeed, the media focuses on feminist leaders who set the feminist agenda with their words and deeds. (sic). Many womens studies programs create bitter women with their skewed prejudicial presentations. These young female mushy minds become caged intellectually and emotionally and this is the society feminist leaders want.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


Those jobs are 95+ percent dominated by males so the odds favor hiring a male but I would like to see a female "timber worker" wield her ax for 8 hours.

Of course those sorts of 'careers' are the reason why males account for 94 percent of all job related deathsI annually.


.......unless a female affirmative action (quota) or any quota for any alleged aggrieved group is involved. Affirmative action is not capitalism!

The cries of "equality" always seem to ring out by those purporting to support feminism. I've previously given examples of its true unjust nature and of its socialist origins. What does "equality" really mean? Back in the suffragette era women wanted shorter work hours. Modern feminists however, accused the "patriarchy" for keeping women from working as long as they wanted too.... and so it goes in so many other venues.

If feminists really wanted "equality" then why don't they walk their talk? Just a few examples of 'inequality':
There will never be real equality until women work as much as men in heavy, dirty and dangerous jobs as men.
There will never be real equality until there are as many female workplace deaths as there are male workplace deaths
There will never be real equality until men have as much to say about what happens to an unborn child, as women have to say about it.

There will never be real equality until men are allowed to act or be weak, a privilege women use as needed.
There will never be real equality until men receive as much money in alimony as women.
There will never be real equality until feminists fight for being included in registering for the draft. (odd how that one escapes them, eh)
There will never be real equality until men and women are treated by the court and by the law in exactly the same way.
huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742.html

The list is almost endless but the point is made. This constant cry of "equality" is generalized just as the word patriarchy is. Some examples out of many here.:

Particularly in the old west, men were responsible for their wives . If a woman committed a crime in her husband's presence, he would be the one responsible and if serious enough would go to jail.

In Mississippi, a man cannot seduce a woman by lying, and claiming he will marry her. This law did not apply to women.
In Missouri, single men between the ages of twenty-one and fifty must pay an annual tax of one dollar (enacted in 1820).
In Nebraska, the male parent could be arrested if his child cannot hold back a burp during a church service

Of course these seem laughable but the idea of "equality" evolved over time. Both men and women seemed content, at least most were, by the standards of the day but the point is this; Protections were afforded women and of course the notion of "women and children first" carried the day on many occasions. We see remnants of that today by continuing to give women privileges and keeping men with responsibilities.

UK, Ireland / 1.2% of scottish population born in Poland [37]


Do you 'feel' the same about Nigerians, Kenyans, etc? Shouldn't the Japanese do likewise? Chinese? ...or just the Europeans?


Since you've stated that your " ancestry consists of mostly German (Bavarian) and some Italian, Native American, and English" most of your ancestors were the ones who slaughtered. As a reminder, native Americans were killing each other in tribal warfare for centuries prior to the coming of the 'white man'.


American liberals are guilt ridden. They believe in their own fictions. How about Polish American political correctness in all its absurdity as shown here.....
paespate.net/index.php?page=apology-to-indians

Love / Do Polish guys not like kissing very much? [5]

Be direct and ask him what the problem is. If you two are a couple then kissing should be natural and not a problem. Don't worry about losing him if you are direct about this. If he doesn't kiss than he's not worth being your boyfriend.

UK, Ireland / 1.2% of scottish population born in Poland [37]


You make it yourself when you admit to it here....



......You're right, it didn't belong to me as my Polish family didn't come to the Americas until much later. One somewhat humorous story is this; We've all heard how the Dutch stole Manhattan from the Indians by giving them $24 dollars worth of junk, however, the Indians who sold Manhattan Island were from Long Island. The Dutch didn't know that and proceeded to make a deal for the famous $24 in trinkets for the land. The Indians took the beads and took off laughing. . When the Dutch started to settle in the real Indian owners of the island showed up from the mainland and demanded payment. Native Americans pulled the first swindle.


You admit it again, does that make you a racist?


Not so sure about that. Supposedly, they lived some 10-20,000 years in the Americas and never even invented the wheel.

USA, Canada / Why indian origin woman as Miss America and never Polish origin? [37]


In the U.S. there has been an emphasis on 3rd world women but not necessarily for the reasons you think. Many men now prefer these women over western women because the attitude and therefore personalities of many westernized women is one of privilege and narcissism. That makes 3rd and even 2nd world women attractive to men who are tired of being scapecoats for western women's ongoing wrath. This 3rd world attraction has become so big that feminists in the U.S. and Sweden have already attempted to make illegal the importation of foreign brides.

USA, Canada / Why indian origin woman as Miss America and never Polish origin? [37]

Lol, but I've enclosed a link which answers many questions that women have about foreign brides. The first paragraph contains a letter from 'Amy" who typifies the selfish, scornful nature of many western women. It is appropriately answered paragraph by paragraph in a reasonable and logical manner.

latin-wife.com/hate_mail.asp

Love / Polish women: what do you think of Polish men? Physically unattractive? [180]


You seem to be a woman who swims against the current cultural tides. Since you think for yourself you will be admonished by the cultural lemmings.


Of course if a man isn't "obedient", and has an opposing opinion, he is accused of hating women and otherwise being misogynistic. Those accusing such a man are the real narrow and numb-minded cultural trend followers.

As you pointed out; they don't think outside the box.

Love / Polish women: what do you think of Polish men? Physically unattractive? [180]


Feminists don't really want "equality". They want preference and "entitlement". That's why I call the modern feminist a 'pick-and-choose feminist'. I've given countless examples of this in other threads :)


Ah, just one more example of the many feminine prerogatives eh?


It's good to remind people of that, well stated.


I may be mistaken but it seems that one of the men here is gay and the other is bi-curious (not that there is anything wrong with that:)


So what you are saying is; women went for your shabby clothes look?

Love / How to show a Polish guy that you're interested? [31]


I don't recommend work place affairs. It's too dangerous for men. Even when women initiate a romance, if it breaks off it's possible the man will be charged with some sort of "sexual harassment". I've hired (and fired) people and have seen innocent ones pay the price. That's how it is in the U.S. but if Scotland hasn't gone completely "PC" then maybe, just maybe it could work.

Love / How to show a Polish guy that you're interested? [31]


You haven't worked for large companies have you? You seem to not want to believe that women would do that, well, some would and do. When I ran an advertising agency one of my directors had a 'romance' with a copy editor. They 'dated' for about 3 months. After he broke up with her she filed a false "sexual harassment" suit against him. She, and her lawyer stated that she was "sexually harassed" at work by one of her bosses. Even when it was brought out by witnesses that they were a consenting couple it didn't seem to matter and the thing was finally adjourned just days before the court day. Still, it cost my firm some money just to go through the ordeal. That's how bad the "PC" sexual harassment industry has become and it has become a billion dollar a year industry.


You don't believe that some are? One phenomena I've found is that when a woman does something bad other women seem to take it personally. Don't! It's that particular individual who is guilty not all women. Men don't seem to feel the same way about such things. Although we've all heard that "all men are jerks" now haven't we?


If only that was so but there is a reason why so many attorneys are involved in workplace "sexual harassment" cases isn't there?

This is how bad its gotten: Years ago at Motorola Company in Schaumburg Illinois, a man had a picture of his wife in a bathing suit on his work desk at his station. . A female employee complained and the man was asked to take it down and when he didn't he was suspended from work. It took him 10 months to get his job back and he was only able to do that by hiring a lawyer. Now that's "PC" run amok, it is insane but there you have it.

Male teachers have to be wary of certain female students. One such college student in Toronto accused her male teacher of "lookism", that is, she claimed that he always stared at her. Although no proof was shown the teacher was suspended for one year without pay and was not allowed a defense. Human Resource Departments are that skid-ish about such things. Now, even gay couples are accused of sexually harassing each other in a work environment.

History / Ghetto Uprising better known than Warsaw Uprising? [92]

About 10 years ago the Chicago SunTimes had a feature article on the Warsaw Uprising and a couple of days later a reader commented in the letters section that he was wondering why it wasn't mentioned that so many Jews were killed in the uprising. This person was unaware of the Warsaw Uprising and evidently thought that the Jewish Ghetto Uprising was the only one.

Law / Which is the best city in Poland to open a kebab shop? [56]

"Which is the best city in Poland to open a kebab shop? "

Well, Walter White, try Lódz, that's where I'm opening up a Mexican restaurant.

News / Lech Walesa vs Immigration: Brits humiliated him at London Heathrow Airport [105]

That's why your mothers were right when they told you to always wear clean underwear.

I never had a problem at Heathrow, perhaps it's my winning smile :)
I was treated distrustfully at Domodedovo but still, it was short of rudeness

"Nie będzie angol pluł nam w twarz"
Not just Britains but also anyone else.

Genealogy / How common is it for other people of Polish origin to discover they are actually Jewish? [127]


This is getting silly. So you want to claim Jewishness because you 'might' have 1/8 Jewish genes? Even that doesn't count if your line was not continually matriarchal.

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You seem unaware that approximately 3 million non Jewish Poles died during almost 6 years of Nazi rule. That too was a holocaust for all those innocent victims.


You don't think that your male ancestors had any role in shaping who you are today?


You might want to study your Polish roots. You might be surprised.

Genealogy / How common is it for other people of Polish origin to discover they are actually Jewish? [127]

"How common is it for other people of Polish origin to discover they are actually Jewish?"

How common is it for other people of Jewish origin to discover they are actually Polish?

USA, Canada / Only one county in the USA has more Polish-Americans than any other group! [38]

The Metropolitan Chicago area (Chicago and burbs) has more than 9,950,000 people. Approxiamately 900,000-1,000,000 have Polish roots which makes this area about 10% Polish and/or Polish/American. The map in the link above seems to ignore this.

Love / Advice on polish girl, I'm not really getting it. [5]

If she was an American woman you can act like a thug and she'd go for you. Since she is Polish, tell her you are thinking of becoming a priest and she'll probably try to talk you out of it by becoming romantic.Whatever happens, remind her that she has to pay 1/2 the entertainment, bar and restaurant bills.

USA, Canada / Polish-American Musicians [45]

One more time for Basia.........