Off-Topic / Countries and your associations in 5 words/descriptions. [56]

Poland: History, beauty, peace, love, possibilities, HOME
India: Taj Mahal, Swami Ramdev, Kerela, Lotus Temple
Ireland: Friendliest people, bright future, lovely scenic countrysides.
England: Diverse, food, business
S. Korea: Smiles, tradition, hospitality, friendliness
Bangladesh: Beach, unfortunate little children, super rich few, sharp contrasts in wealth and living standards (unbelievable difference between rich and poor).
Greece: History, monuments, Olympic, islands
Spain: Beach, culture, unique in entire Europe.
... many more ... and all are unique.

Love / The constant unfortunes of Polki - Polish women [16]


Midas is a Polish hater ... and a pervert to begin with...

Seanus will say anything to keep the number of his posts increasing :D ...


:D ... ya ya blab on ... :D ... I've been married and settled ... being virgin till the right woman isn't bad at all but how'd u know? ... U'r neither a virgin not a used one ... u'r living the life on a box :)

Tell your legendary tales ... u'll get your worshipers :D


Its nothing ... its a hyped up story made by the living genius among us ... :D

People have problems but they work their way through it ... its not like its anything specific to any race ... and neither would any sound woman or man go ahead to share their family matters with a pervert. So you figure...

Love / The constant unfortunes of Polki - Polish women [16]


ha ha :D Patty ... you gonna fall for southern's thesis? ... his "polki' is his imagination :D ... I'm telling you that ...

Specially this thread, and the other two he made at the same time ... as reactions to his helplessness :) ...

But had he been a better man, I would really wish he get a Pole for him :D ... a Polish girl ... but never would wish such bad luck to any girl, considering what southern is (atleast what he seems to be).

Love / I met a Polish guy but wonder what his intention is.. [35]


:) ... PERFECT :)


I can understand her pain. I know my friend and he lives in USA ... he did similar things :( ... although he is my childhood friend, but really not right! I told him of my disgust as his actions with the lady ... but then he said its life and to move forward one must be strong, and not emotional like me :S ...

Its better to be emotional than strong like that ...

Its a jungle out there ... what can I say ... you need to really know the person. Sometimes among that crowed of wolves, there is a true pure lover as well :)


How do you expect she would learn about somebody who is systematically PLANNING to get her heart broken after a certain period of time. Do you know that there are "gang" kind of structures some people make where they help and guide each other in return of some fee to first get married to the girl and then divorce?

Yes, I'm a Polish and very sensitive about my country's image ... but never at the cost of an innocent girl's self esteem no matter where she is from. I think she would have no clue. Polish ones who have such an aim don't want to go the way of other passport seekers who would directly find such a contract girl and straight at face offer an amount for a fake marriage. Instead they would go after a normal girl and play with her ... this is safer with the law too. They are more clever ...

Its sad ... all very disgusting and sad ... but then its a truth that many of us know. I for once won't hide it for the sake of pride ... truth is truth ...

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


Well I didn't know guess who had no Polish background ...

But hey hey hey.... calm down :D ... what do you mean by saying this? Americans are perfect in being united and unanimous? .. Oh Pleaseeee ... don't need to be so bright already Antek! ... I don't think they are any different from us when it comes to certain issues. Infact they have more challenges than us ...

They are a country with a beautiful diversity, I do agree that they are moving together forward. But in that also there are deep misunderstanding and variations in opinions due to cultural influence in their decision making system. They are a diverse set of sub-cultures which are no match for any of the Polish sub-culture available.

There is no comparison between Poland and America. While I completely agree that USA have some great attributes which I always wish Poland could follow, but that doesn't make Political differences or variety of conflicting opinions in the American society absent ... :)

I would like to see some diversity among Poles too :) ... as you know :D, I've been a motivator for that. But for that too I have a thread and its not an all out. However, with the friends I have who got settled in Poland through marriages and coming from greatly diverse societies even races ... they also tend to become immersed with Poland (I am sticking to those who are my friends ... and Poland being such a homogenous country, they have no other option really as they become as Polish as possible to manage their own families which is understandable). However, this is not applicable to UK or USA where people actually prefer to maintain as much as possible their native or ancestral culture :) ... it makes the opinions and thinking process of the country not have THREE OPINIONS ONLY ;) ... BUT PROBABLY THREE HUNDRED :D ...

But they still move along ... because its in the right direction as per such a diverse country should go. Its the greatest melting pot of the world ... and if you see some Animation movies :), they always picture themselves as some different Darkish color with a white man's features etc ... some new thing as per I could notice (you can notice too if you see those animation movie with futuristic themes) ... They are headed that way .. and you know what? I think they will remain SUPER POWERS and the world's most attractive country~! ... and YOU KNOW WHAT MORE??? ... I want that :D ...

Anyways ... there you go :) ... three opinions? ... :D ... just be happy its not 300... ... yet :P!


Who pushes you out? ... they must be mad :D .. seriously crazy :) ...

But if you read my post ... I am really not thinking of getting Polams to NOT BE POLES ... They are Poles partly and they infact should be given all privileges ... but when it comes to voting... how relevant do you think a Polam will be? :) ... I mean, give all privileges and all facilities, ... but anyone before voting should stay atleast one unbroken reign of a government to understand the country's requirements... right? :)

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


:D ... yeah yeah I know ant ...

Don't you see what she wrote? ... She wrote "Everyone else" and "we" signifying EVERYOTHER COUNTRY'S MEDIA/INTELLIGENCE (INCLUDING POLISH) AS "EVERYONE ELSE" ... while again pointing out the USA MEDIA/INTELLIGENCE AS HER'S (US).

^^ ... this was what I was trying to point out towards her.

If you read my post BEFORE that, I think I am much more OK and RESPECTFUL to Polams than most would be in this thread (apart from Polams themselves) :)

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


By using that "us" and also the "everyone else" ... do you mean Poland = Everyone else; and USA = us ... in your case? ;) ...

Anyways ... look at the "allegedly" word before you come to concrete conclusions :) ...

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]

I think that when it comes to voting, the whole world should be allowed to vote for US president, because its the world's most powerful country and its foreign policies affect the whole world in such drastic manners which is probably unthinkable by Americans living in USA! ... Also, its economic policies affect the whole world similarly.

Now when it comes to Poland ... we are comparatively quite insignificant. I am not at all ashamed to say it, but rather in some ways very happy to know this reality :) ... very very happy!

We are insignificant enough to expect that our citizens should know how we eat and drink and what crimes or challenges we face to understand and vote for the appropriate candidate. This voting shouldn't be affected by some other country's propaganda on it. But our own real situations ...

I respect and admire the PolAms ... as you like to call them. They seem to know about Poland, or atleast they care to find out more than we often care to find out. I think if they think deeply, even they would agree that the best for Poland would be a careful analysis of the current situation and challenges, then to read the manifestos and the record of the candidates ... and then finally vote. For doing this it is very important that this be done by ground level experience, seen and felt and lived on that experience ... to understand what hope is realistic and applicable for Poland. <---- can all these elements come from knowing Poland through a foreign Media? ... specially American media which allegedly manipulates information globally to suit its agenda?

Think again ... anyone who loves Poland ... not necessarily Poles in Poland but also Poles abroad ... even those who are foreign native but love Poland. Think on it.... :)

Love / Craziness and Polki - these two go together [33]


Its all my fault today really :D ... I showed him something after which he felt seriously dismayed. I think I'm right on the money today :D

Well ... after watching a few Heroes DVD, I went on browsing about the characters, and found a link on one of the characters... then casually browsed forward BUTTTTTT :D ... an evil plan struck me :P ... that was to share it with beloved southern who have been so quiet and somehow cheerful (it seemed) since an unbearably long time :P :D ... ... :) ... and then WALLA! .. instant response (faster than I thought), along with two consequtive threads .... and few more posts on the same grief!

Here is that magic recipe:


From the Why Do You Love Poland?

How effective :) ...

Come on southern ... say its not true :)

Love / Craziness and Polki - these two go together [33]


Come on man you can do better than that :) ... make yourself a legend here ... for words are as free as they get you know :D

Love / The constant unfortunes of Polki - Polish women [16]


You and them live in a very wrong world ... because I know better examples on Polish women ... :D :) ... your imaginary polki's need you help, go save them :D

Love / Craziness and Polki - these two go together [33]


Oh ... really now AMAAAAAZING man!.... you must be such a charmer! :D

Ha hahahahaa.... :D

Love / Craziness and Polki - these two go together [33]

I think I'm responsible somewhere for southerns outburst of grief today (I might be wrong too) :D :P ... SOUTHERN ARE YOU SAD ??? :)

Love / The constant unfortunes of Polki - Polish women [16]


Give some examples in the misfortunes O' Learned One from Greece!

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


In that case, all this time I've been living in an American Poland (I mean virtually ofcourse :P) :D ... like New England in USA, its New Poland :P

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


Now you sound like Mr A_m_n_s_r_t_r :)

How many born and bred in Poland Poles do you think would love it? ... think buddy think again ...

Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [907]


Southern you are too fast man! Too fast :D ... haha

Its amazing...


While watching Heroes and went on the browse, and look what I found southern ol' warhorse!

mi5not9to5.tumblr.com/post/860651976/olga-sosnovska-and-her-husband-sendhil-ramamurthy

:-O

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]

True infact ...

Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [907]


Southern's evidence does show how much anything remains relevant to the real Poland, and how things slant towards the "imaginary" Poland :)

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


Take another look around the forum, and you will know how useful (if ever) is your or my view will be on the real aspects of the country. One of the most regular here is southern. He is arguably a very very VERY veteran member of the PF ... and he has many in his gang to say the least.

I had some threads on Polish economy, the stock market movements, about the future of Poland ... I think I even had one on Polish politics. I have a few sticky about "why people love Poland" when they come here ... etc etc.

While I must say that some responses were worth thinking about, most were not really serious. Infact except one or two, no comments are usually serious. Its either a fight, or about the women, or about some kind of stray accusation on how bad the Poles drive, our buildings etc etc ... what not.

Its all there my friend, use the archives here, the search is available ... you will get your answers if you look just a little harder.

Infact I found myself the only one from Poland who used to raise those "silly" threads on Polish matters of serious insight. But I really think its not that useful ... as people here come with their own imaginary Poland ... its not the Poland you and I live in ... its another Poland that people discuss here. In this "imaginary Poland" ... all the men in the world are after our women ... we are often the most racist of them all ... we are sometimes the most corrupt ... sometimes the most backward ... sometimes just a step away from becoming the richest country in the globe :P ... also, our women are running away to men from middle east in such huge numbers that we Poles might just end up getting operated to turn into a woman or something...

Thats the Poland in topic here. Do you get it now? ... This is exactly the Poland being discussed here. Are you a citizen of that Poland? If yes, then very well, join in! ... if not, then who would like to know about your Poland? ... Your Poland is not an interesting Poland, its just like any other country with women and men just like any other ... having its way of life, having ups and downs and sometimes a monotonous rhythm aswell.

Hope I could add value to your thread...

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


You are here since March, 2011 ... I'm here since the inception of this forum ... I might arguably be the first Pole (living and born in Poland) to be a member here ...

Since the time I came here, there have been one thing consistent ... the "fishing" as they might call it in USA. Its about who takes the helpless Polish girl and gives her a better life or a better love ... or something in between/something similar. You don't trust me? Go take a peek in the archives.

Its been a warfare. When I first came here I found a thread where a war was going on with the topic being "interracial dating". At that time I used another nick name (Lonestranger), I used to be more open about me, my real name was released, even my real picture in one of the threads. While I have my personal believe in freedom to choose in love, I had been in a relationship interracially myself ... so obviously I took the side in pro. The page probably still holds the record of the longest and the most fastest growing thread in PF history.

Since then and now, very less changed. This is by far the most attractive discussion, and it never gets stale somehow. The majority of the people interacting in here are often expatriate Poles, or other Europeans ... or the Western world ... or a few guys from the Eastern world who somehow stumble upon a Polish (interestingly enough, 98% times its the Polish ladies ... once in a blue moon its a Polish man too for a change).

The interest in Poland is almost exactly as you mentioned ... but there are other elements in it as well. Not a lot of Poles here, although I was told that there is and many log in from Poland ... but you can log in from Poland without being a Polish as well, can't you?

History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]

It was not for everyday Germans ... please re-read BB, it was for the Nazi Germany and their numerous supporters or those who just used it to get their own personal interests fulfilled. There were so many of them in those times, that it touched almost everyone who came across a German in that time.

I mentioned few times here that its about "Those times" and not "These times". Germans are neither animals nor less human. They just seem to have a different characteristic towards life with what I gather. This doesn't make them animals or beasts ... they are just different in their way of thinking, feeling and doing things. This might sound like an accusation or a very biased thinking to you because I am saying this (me, a Pole with a past family experience) ... but its not that. I just mentioned a perspective which more than just a few people share.

Today's Germany is economically powerful, and that perhaps is due to their hard work and attitude. I wish Germany all the very best, and would like to see better relations with Poland ... would I be wrong to add that "while Poland should be alert and educated in all their dealings and friendship etc"?

I have some friends who are German ... but its a natural instinct within that I am more careful and I think for a second more on their words and actions than I would do for others. However, it doesn't mean I look at them with enmity, I just have different ways of dealing with different people. I would wish them "Happy Birthday" ... and so would any of the other Poles who are friends with a German.

There are relationships too that form between Germans and Poles ... but they are formed with any other nation in this whole world as you probably very well know. I respect that, and I would wish them well too.

I don't want to write a huge essay to you in an effort to explain that I have no hatred against you. Its a matter of your perspective on how you see it. If you try to understand my perspective, you will not think like this I am sure. You have free will.

:)

UK, Ireland / Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK? [402]

Its a nonsense thread, so I thought I will never even open it. But then still, now that I have :), I would like to say that it is a "nonsense thread", Polish people didn't import anything really. They just went to work ...

As for racism, this is something very unfortunate and people will change with time after some long term interractions with other races. It makes a person more "global" in this increasingly globalzed world where everything is turning into being a part of the global village.

Insulting, humiliating, or considering other people worthy/not worthy/reliable/not reliable on the basis of race is not a very good way to lead ones life. But as that is what some people prefer, I'd say that there is always room for improvement for everybody, and so is for them.

History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]

Animal = Those who kill, rape, molest, look down on others in the name of war or supremacist theories.

Mechanical/Machine like = Those who think with less emotion and more attached to their goals at any cost. They like to fine tune themselves, they have a different lifestyle. There is nothing wrong with it, its just having a different look into life.

Subhuman = Never mentioned this for Germans.


This is the result of your brainstorming? Did you see how you reacted? I will tell you ... you just programmed yourself to find an enemy to attack, and you named your enemy a "tree hugger" (which I came to know is the synonym for an environmentalist) and then you added fragments of words used in various different contexts to use them as tools of propoganda against him. You tried to justify your attacks thus. You arranged those words fine, according to your requirement.

You did not even attempt to look into it in a positive manner, or try to understand that actually there were no offense against you or Germany. It was just a concept on the traits of the German nation, and apart from that - the actual face of ANY aggressor which attacks nations and brutalise civilians.

By considering my "animal" quotation on yourself or the German nation, are you automatically considering any kind of aggressor or molestor to be inherently German of influenced by the German actions in the last century (which infact is not so far away, as this one just started)? ... By the way, whatever you are thinking, I for once certainly did not mean that. I went a little further with brutalizations by barbaric people around the world.

However, if you are determined in your efforts, there is little one can do. You will come up with another scheme.

Love / Do Polish women fight about everything? [39]

Till now I've found people of all race, religion, continent and lifestyle bring up the same complain. Wonder why ... I don't think its so true.

History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]


Those are not my words, but your inclination towards systematic propoganda.


To earn a living in a better economy, which has nothing to do with emotion or pride there...


No, we just read the only language he knew. Its not his fault ... I never saw BB doing any fault here you know, I understand him and his actions better then he does himself.

He thinks the melting pot image of USA as humiliating for it ... But infact its one of the best hall marks of your society. USA always come out of all the mess once again as it represents the people of the entire world. It also speaks of a new world evolutionary system at work. Americans with some German roots (also Polish) are often very different. Yes, USA has its share of the bad, but it will improve and I believe it will be a better place for the world to look at it and feel good about.


I mean our businesses did ... we always had good connections. It survived in different forms ...

History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]

Listen Daisy, I am "not" calling those who united and disposed of the beast who used to attack people's home as the killer or rapist butcher. I guess there was a misunderstanding here.

I don't know whether your neck is undeserving, but I know that millions of necks livingi n Poland today are all very much deserving.

Soldiers those who have wives and children back home should think before going out on aggression against civilians of other nationalities or beliefs. It is unacceptable no matter how you put it. That is why the United Nations should be the only body having an army ... and the whole world should realize that there must not be any one being an aggressor on the other.

You seem very keen to try and twist the situation to make people find support for those German army, but let me tell you, whether they had their women and children back home or not ... they had no right "ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT" to take up arms against other men, women and children who were civilians and trying to live their lives in peace.

Then attacked, they defended themselves. The motive was not to occupy Germany or rape their women, humiliate and kill their men, kill their children (even rape them) ... the motive was often just to buy enough time for their families and the family around them to go to a safe place. Even though, the world was just becoming more and more unsafe due to this made Aryan Concept of some barbaric, who managed to brainwash his entire nation to become the craziest example in world's history.

Dont go the wrong direction ... it seems that trying to bring forward another point of view is your agenda here. But you miss the point that there is a different between a sword and a shield... Don't mix them.

History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]


So its a good thing, being a "tree Hugger" ... really, if this is why they call it than I feel no shame or anger. Environmentalists are wonderful people, and I do love gardening and I did plant trees ... even experimented with some plant species which usually grow in the tropical weather but not into Polish atmosphere.

I think Mr. BB is confused with my statement there. It was not showing animosity to anyone. But if someone wants to take anything that way, what can I do?

History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]

Protection cannot come from the gun, but from understanding and unity. This is what we as humans have been in the process of learning, and now have evolved much into this process. The gun doesn't protect, it just is used to harm the other. The greatest protection is in being united as humans with understanding and cooperation.

Police is good, but armies should be common internationally ... and the UN should be strengthened so that all human kind can live in peace, and if one barbarian rises, the united forces of the world can stop it, to establish peace.

By the way ... what on earth makes you think that killing civilians, children, raping women, or people or different belief, look, color or religion makes a person rough? It only makes them worst than beasts ... and anyone who sleeps when his "protector" is doing that is nothing but a monster itself. They must resist and join hands to stop this beast who claims to be a protector. This is inhumane. This is too much.

History / German Traitor And Polish Pig [96]


But where did I mention that we must war with Germans and that I hate them all? The only thing I am saying is the tendency of Germans. Every nation have a tendency, for the Germans it is about being very serious and very mechanical. It is wrong to be supremacist, but it not wrong to be less emotional or very mechanical/machine like. Just we have to adjust and live in peace.

What is it with 'tree hugger" concept? I would like to consider myself a nature lover, but I don't understand this.


Why are you namecalling? I don't understand you point?

I would not like to fight with you on this. But it seems you are trying to take it there with this very insulting comment of yours. Try someone else then ...