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Babinich   
27 Sep 2009
Law / CHINESE TO BUILD POLISH ROADS.... [92]

Chinese are famous for cheap work, not durable or correct work...

Yeah; right again...

Let's see: blast furnaces for steel, pumps for irrigation, plowed seeding (agriculture), paper & the Great Wall of China.
Babinich   
8 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

That is damn good point, never heard it before. How true is that????

Here...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Brest-Litovsk_%28February_9,_1918%29
under the heading of: Effects of the treaty

Again I cite the Keegan reference...
Babinich   
8 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

They were never really in a position to get involved in the first place.

I totally agree with you.

BB,

First off there was no Polish nation at that time.

Funny thing is that the Germans ended up screwing the Ukrainians.

Now go figure; Germans not abiding by a treaty. So much for blaming the Nazis control over the Germans and not the Germans themselves.

Sources: John Keegan - 'The First World War'

Basil Dmytryshyn - 'USSR: A Concise History'
Babinich   
8 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

Britian was the big brother with hands tied behind his back. What could we have done that would have saved Poland.

Absolutely nothing; the Brits were in a pickle.
Babinich   
8 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

Nice try but you need to find other excuses for Polish arrogance yet again coming before a fall.

November 1917 - A number of prisoners of war are released from captivity in the Ukraine

A large number of POWs are Czechs and Poles; two of the largest contingents of the Austrian-Hungarian empire.

The Czechs and the Poles as a whole are determined not to be repatriated to the Austrian-Hungarian empire. Their hope was to liberate their homelands from imperial rule.

The Czechs want to go it alone; they demanded passage to France via the Trans-Siberian railway. This is where the Czech adventure begins.

The Poles throw in their lot with the Ukrainian Nationalists.

The Poles are surprised by the Central Rada when the Ukrainians sign a peace accord with the Germans at Brest-Litovsk on 02/09/1918.
Babinich   
8 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

No. It had nothing at all to do with that. The elections which the Poles should not have tried to organise took place on 26 January 1919. The Polish-Soviet war hadn't started then.

Next excuse please.

Sorry Harry...

query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9506E6D61039E13ABC4D53DFB4668382609EDE
Babinich   
8 Aug 2009
History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]

Babinich is claiming that the Ukrainians betrayed Poland by signing a seperate peace treaty

No I am not.

Er, Poland was on the same side as the Central Powers.

Er, no... Pilsudski was jailed by the Germans because of his opposition to the 'polnische wehrmacht'.
Babinich   
7 Aug 2009
History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]

I think that the Ukrainians probably remember the Polish-Soviet war, what with them having fought on the same side as Poland and then having been stabbed in the back by their Polish allies.

Similiar to the Poles getting screwed when they saddled up with the separatist Ukrainians in an effort liberate both their lands from imperial rule.

How? The Ukrainian nationalists sign a seperate peace with the Central Powers through as part of the Brest-Litovsk treaty.
Babinich   
7 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

Maybe that had something to do with the Czechs blocking Hungarian aide during the Polish-Soviet war?

The Hungarians were aware that Poles were fighting for their freedom and tried to extend a helping hand. They planned to dispatch a 30,000-man cavalry corps to join the Polish Army, but the Czechoslovak government denied them passage across Czechoslovak territory.

Fortunately for the Poles Hungarian attempts to help Poland succeeded in the crucial period of the war, when several trains loaded with Hungary-made Mauser rifles reached Poland.

That help was remembered by Poles as another manifestation of the traditional Polish-Hungarian friendship.
Babinich   
6 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

"No, we do not pardon, we demand--vengeance!".

I am quite objective and the result of Hilter's reign, made possible by the German volk, was total defeat.
Babinich   
6 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

But Germany would had gotten away with it if they had been content with Poland.

No, don't blame the Nazis. It's you Germans... All one has to do is to look at WWI for examples of lebensraum.
Babinich   
6 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

One bully invading another country about disputed lands.
The bigger bully get's away with it usually..

Not really, how did your country look on May 8th 1945?