History / Famous Russian Poles [243]


This is like affectionate diminutive. Full names are different... Konstantin, Alexander, Evgeniy, Ivan. Sasha and Zhenia could be both female and male btw. Answering why so... well... maybe because Russians in general are very kind (and modest) nation. ;)

History / Famous Russian Poles [243]


God knows. :) Typically Russian invention. Even in Serbian and Czech it's the same name very seldom... But anyway I heard them using those names as diminutive for Alexander.

The Polish name I'm really interested in is Zbiegnew. It doesn't seem to have any analogy in other languages. What does it mean? What're the origins?

History / Famous Russian Poles [243]



Szkliarski Edmund Mechislavovich/Шклярский Эдмунд Мечиславович (26 September 1955, Leningrad, the USSR)
Poet, musician, composer, artist, has also a degree in building of atomic boilers, considered as one of the fathers of so-called "Russian rock". The most famous representative of "psychodelic rock" in Russia. The leader of famous Russian rock-band "Piknik" (Picnic) URL.

Speaks Polish and Russian, sing in Russian but some say he has some songs in Polish (I haven't heard of any though).
His personal blog: qazimodo.ru/blog
The example of his painting:



Video:

History / Famous Russian Poles [243]


I called him a "Russophobe" implied that his reasoning on Russia has never had anything with reality. Nowadays US is the agressor as the USSR used to be with the only difference that their "Poles" are Serbs, Iraquies etc... Quite hypocritically of you that you support them (to say nothing that it's not very smart).


With all respect... Jews are not Russians.

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There're lots of them of British and Germanic tribe. But this fact doesn't make them relate to those categories. Most of them live not in Israel but in the US. This doesn't make them Americans either... Jews are jews.

Their impact particularly in the last century on Russian history was... let's put it "ambiguous". That's probably why many Russians have mixed feelings about that...


That's a profound thought. :)

History / Famous Russian Poles [243]


Haven't heard about it. Where did you read that?


If you like his books why not read him? Besides, is there any evidence of his "polonophobeness"? I haven't heard of it either. Neither have I about Chechov who was comedian and that would be quite weird to learn of his dislike of any nation...

As for Lermontov I heard only of "Scottish" version.

History / Famous Russian Poles [243]


Really hard to say since 1/6 of Russian population has ever had Polish ancestors. The last names with -iy ending is not considered typically Russian but they're pretty widespread.


That's ok. As for me I'm not the biggest fan of his creation. :)


Do you read that in Polish? I wonder if you have his poetry translated into Polish?


Kolia Gogol's considered Ukranian Russian writer. :) Sounds mutually exclusive. But that's the way it is... :)

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Am I? :) Probably you're right... depending on what we call anti-Semitism. I'm not at all concerned about the genetical question, all I care about at that point is the turn of mind. In general and in most of cases Jewish turn of mind is not close to me. I don't accept it for myself. Neither it's close for those who we call "Slavs".


No more or I would better say less than any other folk. :)


I can't exclude that. As soon as I take DNA-test I'll provide you with the more precise data. Honestly I don't care, because my way of thinking defines my nationality rather than anything else.


You're right about the impact on us. Finally neither me nor anybody else can say how well it was. One however can be said for sure: there's no other nation that has ever perfomed such a bloodshed for Slavs as they did in the past century. Unfortunatelly it arose in Russia... I'm not surely gonna shift all the blame to Jews. Russians shouldn't have been that stupid to give a power to bolsheviks.


Have you ever thought of why Jews are the most hated nation ever?
Have you ever thought of why there's no definition of "antislavism" despite the fact that antislavism ideed exists and thrives?
Why haven't you ever thought of word "anti-Semitism" itself which purposely perverted and inacurate? As we all know semits are the large group of folks speaking semitic languages including some north-african tribes. Why not call that anti-Zionism which would be much better or at lest anti-Jewishness?

They need you to feel constantly embarrassed always guilt about something you've never done... meanwhile thanks to them my grandparents dispossessed and millions of Russians, Poles, Ukranians, Belorussians, Germans, Tatars, Caucasians etc... were shot.

Don't take it as if I stay away of Jews. Some who were brought up not in Zionistic (Zionism=Jewish fascism FYI) traditions are my friends. I'm open to them, but they're not always open to "goys"...

Life / Which nations do Poles like the most / the least? [150]


It's the media of Polish democracy and freedom of speech.

Russia is on the top of the most liked... I'm sure Poles like us subconciously. :)

History / Poles and Russians -- love-hate relationship? [209]


You're mostly right. Russians and Poles have a lot in common but the actual state of affairs doesn't allow them to extend a hand to each other.

As for the language according to method of M. Svodesh we've got 77% of the vocabulary in common which ranks the Polish language #3 in terms of similarity with Russian (after Belorussian and Ukranian) among other slavic languages.

History / Poles and Russians -- love-hate relationship? [209]


My friend this strongly depends on particular man. Speaking for Russian part I would say that Russians mostly don't care about any kind of "brethren" or smth... last years they've mostly cared about their personal wellbeing. I wouldn't say that Russians are hostile towards Poles even though there were lots of antipolish propoganda spitted out by Russian media (yet those are not comparable with antirussian propoganda of polish media). There're many groups and Russian internet resources dedicated to Poland and Poles. I'm the one of many who are attracted by Polish nation.

Just for your info... "liakh" (derived from "Lech") is I believe the oldest nick for Poles in Russian language (unlike to Polish Russian language doesn't have any offensive nicks for Poles).

As for Ukranians... I guess communists completely erased the boundary between two our nations. For me it's usually hard to say even by accent whether this or that man is from Ukraine or from Russia (even if one has specific pronunciation of "g" turning to "h" - for instance golova rus=hlava cze he could be just from the south of Russia). On the whole I don't know what's difference between us apart from colors of our passports.


Celinski I don't see any connection between the words you cited and another your fit od madness. Sorry.

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Ok-ok... :) Who argues? I'm just saying that there's no problem in that you Slav (Pole or Belorussian since other "slavic" nation can be hardly called "slavic") or not genetically; which is much more important is our language and cultural community.


Offensive? Even Borrka said it wasn't...


yeap :)

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It's the cheapest. Cheaper than South of Russia in summer. Considering crisis travel agencies have to reduce prices.

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Maybe you didn't notice their husbands under the veil of their charm. :)

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4501]


It may be somehow related to the word "head". Just my guess. :)

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4501]


Sounds like (Belo)russian for me. The most famous I know[
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Gershkovich

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4501]

In Russian doughnut is "ponczik" ("i" is like in "ditto"). I think it might be Polish or Jewish (PonczAk). Really few info about that last name in runet (it's not very popular in Russia). So Polish people should provide you with the better picture. :)

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And I would second that as a Russian speaker.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4501]


Interesting. :) In Russian bud is "pochka" and the second meaning of "pochka" is a kidney.

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Thanks for the correction. I had now idea about how to spell it, I just heard the word and said the way I'd heard it. Equally well I could have said that in Serbian to understand=razumeti. I'm again not sure about the spelling, but that's approximately the way it sounds.

History / Famous Russian Poles [243]

Sofia Vasilyevna Korvin-Krukovski, a.k.a. Sofia Vasilyevna Kovalevskaya (Russian: Со́фья Васи́льевна Ковале́вская). (Moscow, January 15, 1850 - Stockholm, Sweden, February 10, 1891, aged 41 from influenza), was the first major Russian female mathematician, and also the first woman who was appointed to a full professorship in Europe in 1889 (Sweden). Her first name is sometimes given as Sonya.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofia_Kovalevskaya - Wiki in English
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zofia_Kowalewska - in Polish

Oleg Ivanovich Yankovsky (Russian: Олег Иванович Янковский; born February 23, 1944, Dzhezkazgan, Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic, USSR) is a Soviet/Russian actor who has excelled in psychologically sophisticated roles of modern intellectuals. In 1991, he became, together with Alla Pugacheva, the last person to be named a People's Artist of the USSR.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Yankovsky - Wiki in English

Btw he's 65 today. :)

News / Poland Should Beef Up Military [286]


You have interesting sense of humour. Poleamerican and Lotnik, I think moving to Poland or reading non-american media would moderate your views.

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I find it naive to put it mildly when people say about the future agression of Russia against Poland as if it is something inevitable. Weird. That would be stupid. However I should admit that american influence in Europe adds fuel to the fire.

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Me either. So what? Bastard too?


Yes, because it's the only way for the pipe bypassing Russia from that region.


Well at least that's what the current power wants. Now our media activelly convincing people that Ukraine goes bankrupt.

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Spasibo, Dr. Zoidberg!


True, but I don't think it would any change the mainstream of their newsblocks.

News / Poland Should Beef Up Military [286]


I disagree. Two Empires can't be allies. We(you and me I mean) may be friends, I have many American friends but two our governments - never. And perhaps we will both be able to see it better, when the arctic shelf's developed. The basic american interest here is the oil and they always forget while in Europe the old saying "when at Rome, do as the Romans do".


No... I would apply different logic. The American missile system located in Poland might shake the piece in the region.

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Of course, especially considering that putin has no idea on what else he could sell. Well... I forgot about gas...

John, we already discussed the issue about missile shield in Poland and I'm afraid I can't state anything new on that, but as for Iran - Russia's worried more and more about the Iran working on the intercontinental ballistic missile. Believe me Russia doesn't need another pain in neck however I don't see any other way to handle the issue except for diplomatic. Let's face the fact: if Iran would build the missile, Poland shield couldn't help. Well... there's one more way - to invade Iran right-away but this hardly possible. I don't think the world society will allow to the US another Iraq.


Excuse me Sean I've lost track of our discussion. Are you talking about Ukraine now?

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Oh... you mean the Port Sevastopol. It's about the only significant Russian naval base in the south, the largest in Black Sea. Nobody wants to lessen its military strength.


Sean, imagine that there's a crazy professor experimenting with radioactive materials on your neighbourhood. You can come to his place and stare at his experiments as long as you want but this doesn't guarantee your safety.

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Very nice, constructive and healthy point. All those "shields" are only pretexts for intrigues. Nowadays in fact attacking facilities "a head taller" than those safeguarding.

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Basically yes, it is Ukranian. They just don't want to prolong the lease.
And it's interesting... if there're some ethnical cleansing, 1000s of people rotted in camps then Russia is a heir of the guilt but if there're some military bases, factories then of course baltic states or Ukraine or any other country of the former USSR is the rightful heir.


The best guarantee is not to keep radioactive materials (going back to my example), i.e. not to install missile shield.


I'd even say opposite. That's what would jeopardize them.


I've recently listened to one Russian military expert on the Middle East affairs on radio. He cast doubt on that they had launched satellite. As an engineer whose scope of activity includes aerospace vehicles I second his opinion. Iran is bluffing. They in fact did once the launch of the satellite but there was Russia helping them. Their warhead delivery system can cover for now less than 2000km but as I already said Russia didn't feel comfortable with that and tried to reach a compromise with Iran both in her oil interests and interests of her and her neighbours safety.