Paulina
19 Aug 2010
Paulina
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
For those interested - I found this:
niniwa2.cba.pl/lato_sasiedzkich_pogromow.htm
Well, there's this theory that anti-semitism grew stronger because of the Russian partition and Kielce was in Russia during the partitions. But I don't know if that was really the case... One would have to check in which regions of Poland pogroms were most common, I guess.
For those interested - I found this:
niniwa2.cba.pl/lato_sasiedzkich_pogromow.htm
Next, place - why Kielce not other town left in good state ? Where the independent forces were strongest at the time, where national movement were strong as well ? ?
Well, there's this theory that anti-semitism grew stronger because of the Russian partition and Kielce was in Russia during the partitions. But I don't know if that was really the case... One would have to check in which regions of Poland pogroms were most common, I guess.
Paulina
19 Aug 2010
Food / Nalewki, anyone? [11]
No, but my mom did from aronia (chokeberries?) or something like that.
And I bought my dad "Wielka księga nalewek" with recipes as a birthday present so maybe we'll try making some :)
Anyone on PF make their own?
No, but my mom did from aronia (chokeberries?) or something like that.
And I bought my dad "Wielka księga nalewek" with recipes as a birthday present so maybe we'll try making some :)
Paulina
19 Aug 2010
Food / Nalewki, anyone? [11]
Wow, I never tried that, I think. Does it taste... good? ;)
my grandma still makes orzechówke...
Wow, I never tried that, I think. Does it taste... good? ;)
Paulina
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
Yes, Kraków is in the South and was in the Austrian partition. Well, as I wrote - it's just a theory ;) Maybe Russian partition had some influence, maybe it was because it was the poorest partition and least developed, I don't know.
It's not like, of course, Russians invented anti-semitism and it came from Russia to Poland :)
I was just curious if by writing "Kosher Zeitung" he meant "Gazeta Wyborcza" :) Because I gave a link to an article in gazeta.pl and this newspaper is called by people with radical right-wing views (those who are anti-semites at least) as "Jewish", "communist", "anti-Polish" and stuff like that ;)
I meant that there were pogroms before and Jews were killed.
What do you mean by that? A crowd of ordinary people killed the Jews. The police did almost nothing to stop this. Do you have any evidence to prove it wasn't the case?
And what about other pogroms in history of Poland? How would you explain them?
Well, it was a period of widespread violence against Jews with of course the culmination in the Kielce incident. Most of them in Eastern Poland, however, there was violence in Western Poland too and in Krakow, which doesn't really lie in Eastern Poland.
Yes, Kraków is in the South and was in the Austrian partition. Well, as I wrote - it's just a theory ;) Maybe Russian partition had some influence, maybe it was because it was the poorest partition and least developed, I don't know.
It's not like, of course, Russians invented anti-semitism and it came from Russia to Poland :)
Paulina, ender is an anti semite, not covertly but openly. He even proclaimed himself to be proud of it. I mean stupid is as stupid does, but to be actually proud of it, takes the biscuit :)
I was just curious if by writing "Kosher Zeitung" he meant "Gazeta Wyborcza" :) Because I gave a link to an article in gazeta.pl and this newspaper is called by people with radical right-wing views (those who are anti-semites at least) as "Jewish", "communist", "anti-Polish" and stuff like that ;)
I said nothing like that, and it didn't.
I meant that there were pogroms before and Jews were killed.
Easy Terran was saying that the Poles were only puppets in Ruskie's hands.
What do you mean by that? A crowd of ordinary people killed the Jews. The police did almost nothing to stop this. Do you have any evidence to prove it wasn't the case?
Important date, important meating (July, Nurymberg... do I have to draw a picture here???)
And what about other pogroms in history of Poland? How would you explain them?
Paulina
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
Admit what?
What acceptance?
One day the Poles will admit
Admit what?
and then the road lies open for acceptance.
What acceptance?
Paulina
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
Well, for most normal people in Poland it's pretty obvious that Poles did it, I think. And there is a memorial plaque at 7 Planty Street and a monument nearby (not very impressive though, I must admit :/) uncovered during an aniversary of the pogrom (it was transmitted live by Polish TV) and on this occasion there was a concert in an open-air theater of Jewish kantors from Israel which I attended with my mom (there were a lot of people, whole families with children) so I guess we're getting there slowly...
I agree.
But after 50 years of hibernation facing the truth is painful and we're probably still in the stage of digesting it all...
It's not pleasant to know that your compatriots killed their neighbours out of some irrational prejudices, so people try to rationalise it or blame it on somebody else or deny it.
And, I think, some Poles are afraid to admit what was done in the past because they think that also present-day Poles will be labeled as some monsters who have anti-semitism in their genes.
I can see sometimes the same fear in some Russians blaming the Nazis for the Katyń massacre. It seems they don't believe that Russians could do such a thing. And probably they don't want to.
I've noticed the same about Turks denying Armenian genocide. They don't want to be viewed by the world as monsters.
Of course, people who deny such things or try to blame it on others choose the wrong way, they just make the world believe they didn't change. But it's sometimes difficult to explain this to them :)
Well, I guess the best way is to educate people in a calm and not agressive manner.
That it was them who committed the Pogrom in Kielce. Besides you and a few others on here, the usual suspects all deny it.
Well, for most normal people in Poland it's pretty obvious that Poles did it, I think. And there is a memorial plaque at 7 Planty Street and a monument nearby (not very impressive though, I must admit :/) uncovered during an aniversary of the pogrom (it was transmitted live by Polish TV) and on this occasion there was a concert in an open-air theater of Jewish kantors from Israel which I attended with my mom (there were a lot of people, whole families with children) so I guess we're getting there slowly...
And admitting that one's history might not be as glorious as one always has thought it was, is the first step to accepting that it was just that, which in turn means coming to terms with it, which in turn means letting the past go and move forward instead of remaining in the past.
I agree.
But after 50 years of hibernation facing the truth is painful and we're probably still in the stage of digesting it all...
It's not pleasant to know that your compatriots killed their neighbours out of some irrational prejudices, so people try to rationalise it or blame it on somebody else or deny it.
And, I think, some Poles are afraid to admit what was done in the past because they think that also present-day Poles will be labeled as some monsters who have anti-semitism in their genes.
I can see sometimes the same fear in some Russians blaming the Nazis for the Katyń massacre. It seems they don't believe that Russians could do such a thing. And probably they don't want to.
I've noticed the same about Turks denying Armenian genocide. They don't want to be viewed by the world as monsters.
Of course, people who deny such things or try to blame it on others choose the wrong way, they just make the world believe they didn't change. But it's sometimes difficult to explain this to them :)
Well, I guess the best way is to educate people in a calm and not agressive manner.
Paulina
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
But I didn't kill anyone :P
;)
(I've learned this from Russians ;D)
So, maybe it should be like this: "yes, it was the Poles. Poles did it and we are deeply ashamed of it that are compatriots have done so."
Paulina (just wondering if this version would be acceptable ;))
"yes, it was us. We did it and we are deeply ashamed of it that we have done so."
But I didn't kill anyone :P
;)
(I've learned this from Russians ;D)
So, maybe it should be like this: "yes, it was the Poles. Poles did it and we are deeply ashamed of it that are compatriots have done so."
Paulina (just wondering if this version would be acceptable ;))
Paulina
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
You know, Ironside, I know a Russian who is a member of Memoriał
( pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memoria%C5%82_%28stowarzyszenie%29 )
and dug the bones of Polish officers killed by NKVD, created a blog about Katyń where he puts information and evidence concerning the massacre and is discussing it with Russians and trying to convince them on the internet that NKVD did it. And you know how some Russians call this? Kissing the ass of Poles :)
The same is with one Russian woman from Moscow and I've learned a lot from her (but probably not enough).
I'm not kissing anyone's ass. I just try to explain some things and find out something for myself too.
kiss the ass would be appropriate now...
You know, Ironside, I know a Russian who is a member of Memoriał
( pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memoria%C5%82_%28stowarzyszenie%29 )
and dug the bones of Polish officers killed by NKVD, created a blog about Katyń where he puts information and evidence concerning the massacre and is discussing it with Russians and trying to convince them on the internet that NKVD did it. And you know how some Russians call this? Kissing the ass of Poles :)
The same is with one Russian woman from Moscow and I've learned a lot from her (but probably not enough).
I'm not kissing anyone's ass. I just try to explain some things and find out something for myself too.
Paulina
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
Why not? Both for Poles and Russians it's difficult to come to terms with what happened and both nations have a communist past (and it was 50 years of propaganda for Poles nad 70 years for Russians).
It may be different in this way that Polish officers were killed by a selected group of people and it was done due to a secret order of Stalin. And the Jews were killed by ordinary Poles, people from the same city :/
I don't think the comparison is right, you should know it yourself...
Why not? Both for Poles and Russians it's difficult to come to terms with what happened and both nations have a communist past (and it was 50 years of propaganda for Poles nad 70 years for Russians).
It may be different in this way that Polish officers were killed by a selected group of people and it was done due to a secret order of Stalin. And the Jews were killed by ordinary Poles, people from the same city :/
Paulina
19 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
But the denial machanism is the same. People don't want to be viewed as monsters.
It is known that Poles did this, even if we assume that it was inspired in any way by the communist authorities or the Soviets. It was carried out by inhabitants of Kielce. Even some policemen were arrested for doing nothing to stop the killing.
Probably, but I'm afraid not only.
Eh... 37 innocent people isn't "a few victims".
And you don't have to, I think. We (me and you) didn't do this. It happened over half of a century ago.
But we have to face the fact that it happened (and that there was anti-semitism in Poland). I think Jews want us to admit that, and that it was wrong, that killing those people was a horrible crime and it shouldn't happen again. I know I would like to hear that from Russians about the Katyń massacre.
scale, premeditation, and soviet state apparatus
But the denial machanism is the same. People don't want to be viewed as monsters.
on the other hand if we assume than some polish elements did it ......
It is known that Poles did this, even if we assume that it was inspired in any way by the communist authorities or the Soviets. It was carried out by inhabitants of Kielce. Even some policemen were arrested for doing nothing to stop the killing.
there was criminal or deranged element demoralised by war
Probably, but I'm afraid not only.
and a few victims.
Eh... 37 innocent people isn't "a few victims".
I don't feel responsible for that at all.
And you don't have to, I think. We (me and you) didn't do this. It happened over half of a century ago.
But we have to face the fact that it happened (and that there was anti-semitism in Poland). I think Jews want us to admit that, and that it was wrong, that killing those people was a horrible crime and it shouldn't happen again. I know I would like to hear that from Russians about the Katyń massacre.
Paulina
20 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
My mom isn't from Kielce and she wasn't born yet at that time :)
As I wrote before, mother of my university professor witnessed what happened. He told us during the classes what she saw (of course, he should be teaching us instead but I'm glad he told us about this).
I watched a documentary not so long ago on TVN about a Jew living in Israel who wanted to get his Polish citizenship back and he said that he was saved by a Polish family somewhere near Jedwabne, I think.
I am :)
Ender, do you live in Poland?
Learn from mother of friend ask her details ask her about her opinion.
My mom isn't from Kielce and she wasn't born yet at that time :)
As I wrote before, mother of my university professor witnessed what happened. He told us during the classes what she saw (of course, he should be teaching us instead but I'm glad he told us about this).
check Yad Vashem stories like this
I watched a documentary not so long ago on TVN about a Jew living in Israel who wanted to get his Polish citizenship back and he said that he was saved by a Polish family somewhere near Jedwabne, I think.
and for God sake START THINKING.
I am :)
Ender, do you live in Poland?
Paulina
20 Aug 2010
History / Polish history is 100% glorious [297]
Not by me :)
Ender, I'll answer you tomorrow, I hope.
Yet present day Germans are blamed over and over again on this forum for what happened 75 years ago.
Not by me :)
Ender, I'll answer you tomorrow, I hope.
Paulina
20 Aug 2010
Life / My own thoughts about life in Poland (have lived here for two years) [133]
LOL
Good one ;)
but maybe when we reach the level of 2 bmw per family maybe then we will start to complain about materialistic world...
LOL
Good one ;)
Paulina
20 Aug 2010
History / Polish civilization is older than English or French. Why do Poland follow them? [64]
Yeah, you tell him, BB! ;) I think this is one of few moments when I can identify myself with Germans:
youtube.com/watch?v=d39FBRxBM8k
;D
and stating that the murderous roman empire which enslaved the world and even murdered whole people for his own gain is hold up as "civilization" whereas their enemies and victims are sold to us as "barbarians".
Yeah, you tell him, BB! ;) I think this is one of few moments when I can identify myself with Germans:
youtube.com/watch?v=d39FBRxBM8k
;D
Paulina
20 Aug 2010
History / Pole who burned himself to protest the 1968 Soviet invasion [81]
Surely, only uncivilised and uneducated barbarians like Poles, Indians and Vietnamese burn themselves to death in protest:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_%C4%90%E1%BB%A9c
No it wasnt..there are ways in a civilised world of achieving things...Indian girls in villages married off to abusive men resort to this..not grown educated men in Europe...Surely you have to agree with me?
Surely, only uncivilised and uneducated barbarians like Poles, Indians and Vietnamese burn themselves to death in protest:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_%C4%90%E1%BB%A9c
Paulina
20 Aug 2010
History / Pole who burned himself to protest the 1968 Soviet invasion [81]
I would rather say that in a democratic society it isn't necessary. In a totalitarian regime there are no means of protest, so people become desperate. There's no free media, there is censorship so you can't just go to a TV station and speak your mind.
The world often don't care much about what's going on in countries where there's some kind of regime. Usually something shocking must happen to draw attention, like in the case of that Vietnamese monk.
So, no, I disagree - it isn't about "civilised society".
I wasnt suggesting that all that did this were uncivilised..I was however saying in a civilised society it isnt necessary..agian..I will say..Im sure you would agree with this?
I would rather say that in a democratic society it isn't necessary. In a totalitarian regime there are no means of protest, so people become desperate. There's no free media, there is censorship so you can't just go to a TV station and speak your mind.
The world often don't care much about what's going on in countries where there's some kind of regime. Usually something shocking must happen to draw attention, like in the case of that Vietnamese monk.
So, no, I disagree - it isn't about "civilised society".
Paulina
21 Aug 2010
History / Pole who burned himself to protest the 1968 Soviet invasion [81]
But I suspect that was mainly in the first part of the 20th century when the media weren't as powerful and common as in the second half?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_self-immolations
That also existed in the west.
But I suspect that was mainly in the first part of the 20th century when the media weren't as powerful and common as in the second half?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_self-immolations
Paulina
21 Aug 2010
History / Pole who burned himself to protest the 1968 Soviet invasion [81]
I think you're probably right. At least partly because it seems that the death of Thích Quảng Đức changed something after all.
But there are events, images, pictures that stay in people's minds for years and become a symbol.
The soviet empire didn't fall because of the few people who burnt themselves....and that the west (if he did care) was sympathetic to their cause didn't help the people behind the iron curtain one yota...
I think you're probably right. At least partly because it seems that the death of Thích Quảng Đức changed something after all.
But there are events, images, pictures that stay in people's minds for years and become a symbol.
Paulina
21 Aug 2010
History / Pole who burned himself to protest the 1968 Soviet invasion [81]
I was answering your question, Amathyst.
It depends what you mean by "civlised world". Maybe read some and then we'll come back to this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization
? o_O
I come from:
:)
I think my comment covered that..Im aware that this happens, but the OP was talking about Europe..not the "rest of the world"
I was answering your question, Amathyst.
I have to argue a point about the "civlised world" one has rights in the civilsed world and therefore a person doesnt need to set fire to ones self in the "civilised world" to gain rights that one has in the "civilised world", so your failure to agree with my point confuses me - can you explain?
It depends what you mean by "civlised world". Maybe read some and then we'll come back to this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization
Id love to know where you are coming from.
? o_O
I come from:
:)
Paulina
21 Aug 2010
History / Pole who burned himself to protest the 1968 Soviet invasion [81]
The way you used words "civilised world/society" is a popular expression not a scientific one, in my opinion. And pretty arrogant too...
Amathyst, the Arab civilisation and culture was thriving when in Europe we had Dark Ages with people being killed for their beliefs, women burned on stakes as "witches" and so on.
In the US even in the second half of the 20th century they still had racial segregation. Do you consider that "civilised"? Was the US "civilised" at that time?
Would you say corrida is civilised?
Indeed, that was my intention :)
Developing doesn't mean uncivilised :) There's a civilisation already. Just some areas of it are not as developed as in some other countries.
And, according to what you wrote before, such countries like UK, USA, Greece, Spain, France, Sweden, Japan, Germany, Italy, Australia were all uncivilised because people burned themselves there in protest:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_self-immolations
:D Sweetie, it was sarcasm in response to what Amathyst wrote :)))
Paulina (going for weekend to the almost civilised countryside :D)
Semantics..
The way you used words "civilised world/society" is a popular expression not a scientific one, in my opinion. And pretty arrogant too...
one can say Saudi is civilised because they have indoor plumbing in the majority of housing, but they still stone women to death and are looking in to sever a man spine in an "eye for an eye" ciminal case...do you consider that "civilised"... civilisation is an evolving thing...its not something that can be quantified...
Amathyst, the Arab civilisation and culture was thriving when in Europe we had Dark Ages with people being killed for their beliefs, women burned on stakes as "witches" and so on.
In the US even in the second half of the 20th century they still had racial segregation. Do you consider that "civilised"? Was the US "civilised" at that time?
Would you say corrida is civilised?
all it did was to explain what "civilisation" is...
Indeed, that was my intention :)
You omitted to mention that it evolves and omitted to say that some countires are still devoping.
Developing doesn't mean uncivilised :) There's a civilisation already. Just some areas of it are not as developed as in some other countries.
And, according to what you wrote before, such countries like UK, USA, Greece, Spain, France, Sweden, Japan, Germany, Italy, Australia were all uncivilised because people burned themselves there in protest:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_self-immolations
Can admin remove uncouth racists like Paulina from the forum?
:D Sweetie, it was sarcasm in response to what Amathyst wrote :)))
Paulina (going for weekend to the almost civilised countryside :D)
Paulina
23 Aug 2010
History / Pole who burned himself to protest the 1968 Soviet invasion [81]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchcraft_Act
"Slightly less civilsed" is more precise than "uncivilised" then, I think :)
Iran, for example, is a successor to an ancient civilization and culture.
Apparently you weren't:
And modest too, as always :)
I think I do :)
Is this some kind of clumsy try at claiming I'm not intelligent? :)
Well, you see, I'm not a native speaker of English :) In Polish we call it "Średniowiecze" (Middle Ages). I've heard two terms in English for this period: "Dark Ages" and "Middle Ages". I was referring to Europe in general, not only to England, so I see no reason why I should write "The Saxon and Viking period", as it is apparently some kind of local British term, not general European.
You mean him?:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_%C4%90%E1%BB%A9c
Btw, you didn't answer my question:
And one more thing:
According to this list there was a number of self-immolations of "grown educated men in Europe" in the "civilised Western world", including the UK:
No problem, I understand :)
The above is in reference to the stoning of Mary Magdalene, at this point in time were not burning/drowning (by the way drowning was a more popular choice than burning) witches in England quite the opposite..they were held in high esteem, which means we were slightly more civilsed then
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchcraft_Act
we dont burn witches anymore but they still stone women..
"Slightly less civilsed" is more precise than "uncivilised" then, I think :)
Iran, for example, is a successor to an ancient civilization and culture.
So thanks for making me realise that we were more civilsed back then
Apparently you weren't:
and still are.
And modest too, as always :)
By the way, do you actually know why this period of time is referred to as the "Dark Ages"?
I think I do :)
Its rather an antiquated term, most inteligent people refer to it as the Saxon and Viking peroid.
Is this some kind of clumsy try at claiming I'm not intelligent? :)
Well, you see, I'm not a native speaker of English :) In Polish we call it "Średniowiecze" (Middle Ages). I've heard two terms in English for this period: "Dark Ages" and "Middle Ages". I was referring to Europe in general, not only to England, so I see no reason why I should write "The Saxon and Viking period", as it is apparently some kind of local British term, not general European.
As to the idot that set himself on fire...FFS..they should have left him to it! Selfish b*stard!
You mean him?:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_%C4%90%E1%BB%A9c
Btw, you didn't answer my question:
In the US even in the second half of the 20th century they still had racial segregation. Do you consider that "civilised"? Was the US "civilised" at that time?
Would you say corrida is civilised?
Would you say corrida is civilised?
And one more thing:
We dont do martyrs in the west..
No it wasnt..there are ways in a civilised world of achieving things...Indian girls in villages married off to abusive men resort to this..not grown educated men in Europe...Surely you have to agree with me?
According to this list there was a number of self-immolations of "grown educated men in Europe" in the "civilised Western world", including the UK:
Apologies, but with all the Poland bashing on this forum, and there were few more countries in there than Poland it just seems like an easy trap to fall into, in my defence I was trying to get rid of my post, but it was too late:)
No problem, I understand :)
Paulina
24 Aug 2010
Love / ARE POLISH WOMEN CATTY...? [75]
Damn, are we new Jews or something? ;) Unbelievable... LOL
LOL That doesn't sound like a real scientific research, just a bunch of stereotypes about women in general ;D
o_O
Well, that's weird... All my direct bosses were women and they were all OK, very supportive actually. Doesn't mean they were perfect in every way, of course, but who is? I had a problem only with one woman at my work, but that's just the way she is.
Well, anyway, most of my friends are women :)
Polish women are the most aggressive in the world, claims an American researcher.
Damn, are we new Jews or something? ;) Unbelievable... LOL
Phyllis Chesler, quoted by the Polska The Times says Polish females are jealous, backbiting and cruel - especially to other women.
LOL That doesn't sound like a real scientific research, just a bunch of stereotypes about women in general ;D
They enjoy misfortune - both experienced by themselves and other people - and will actively contribute to it.
o_O
Well, that's weird... All my direct bosses were women and they were all OK, very supportive actually. Doesn't mean they were perfect in every way, of course, but who is? I had a problem only with one woman at my work, but that's just the way she is.
Well, anyway, most of my friends are women :)
Paulina
24 Aug 2010
Language / What do you like in Polish language? [70]
I think a teacher told us about this at Polish classes in high school ;)
We say "na dwór" in Kielce :)
There's only one "migawka" I know: pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migawka
Ekspres - pociąg ekspresowy? o_O
Ja pierdykam - we say "ja pierniczę" :)
I don't know the meaning of the rest of these words ;)
I'd say "ziemniak" is more common in Kielce.
Btw, have you ever heard word "sztyngiel"?
;D
I would look like this: O_O
But we don't have trams in Kielce... ;)
iść na pole zamiast na dwór??? Poważnie?!
I think a teacher told us about this at Polish classes in high school ;)
We say "na dwór" in Kielce :)
There's only one "migawka" I know: pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migawka
Ekspres - pociąg ekspresowy? o_O
Ja pierdykam - we say "ja pierniczę" :)
I don't know the meaning of the rest of these words ;)
also do you use word kartofel (which is not part of £ódzka Gwara)
I'd say "ziemniak" is more common in Kielce.
Btw, have you ever heard word "sztyngiel"?
Ten tramwaj jedzie na krańcówkę, masz ważną migawkę?
;D
I would look like this: O_O
But we don't have trams in Kielce... ;)
Paulina
24 Aug 2010
History / Pole who burned himself to protest the 1968 Soviet invasion [81]
You mean Ryszard Siwiec? Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia took place on the night of August 20 - August 21, 1968 and Ryszard Siwiec committed self-immolation on 8 September of 1968...
You mean Ryszard Siwiec? Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia took place on the night of August 20 - August 21, 1968 and Ryszard Siwiec committed self-immolation on 8 September of 1968...
Paulina
24 Aug 2010
History / Pole who burned himself to protest the 1968 Soviet invasion [81]
Unlike with the Soviets during the Warsaw Pact invasion Poland didn't invade Czechoslovakia together with the Nazis as far as I know. And there's nothing to love about it. Pretty shameful really. Hence the self-immolation of Ryszard Siwiec in protest of that event.
Unlike with the Soviets during the Warsaw Pact invasion Poland didn't invade Czechoslovakia together with the Nazis as far as I know. And there's nothing to love about it. Pretty shameful really. Hence the self-immolation of Ryszard Siwiec in protest of that event.
Paulina
24 Aug 2010
Love / ARE POLISH WOMEN CATTY...? [75]
But on the door it's signed "Aneta" and on the car "Klaudia"... So one woman or two women? :D
Yes. Look what this crazy woman did to my door and car:
But on the door it's signed "Aneta" and on the car "Klaudia"... So one woman or two women? :D
Paulina
24 Aug 2010
Life / Joanna (Asia) Name days? [9]
Do you know when she was born? Because in Poland it's usually the first name day in the calendar after the birthday (Joanna has at least 21 name days in the calendar according to Wikipedia ;)).
Do you know when she was born? Because in Poland it's usually the first name day in the calendar after the birthday (Joanna has at least 21 name days in the calendar according to Wikipedia ;)).
Paulina
25 Aug 2010
Love / Are all beautiful Polish girls as crazy as this? [262]
Sure, there are plenty, but why Polish ladies? I can see in you profile that you live in Scotland, right? Is there something wrong with Scottish ladies?
Maybe pick better next time ;) And someone closer to your age...
Any genuinely 'nice' Polish ladies out there? I'd love to hear from you.
Sure, there are plenty, but why Polish ladies? I can see in you profile that you live in Scotland, right? Is there something wrong with Scottish ladies?
Prove me wrong.
Maybe pick better next time ;) And someone closer to your age...
Paulina
25 Aug 2010
Life / What's the going (bribe) rate to avoid a speeding ticket in Poland? [24]
LOL!!! So "funny"!!!
You watch too much pûrn :/
LOL!!! So "funny"!!!
You watch too much pûrn :/