News / Up to 80 Polish fighters killed in Ukraine [53]

@gregy741, shouldn't you be asking Londoners about this?

Life / Aquarium fish in Wroclaw [4]

The best place to buy both fish and stuff for aquariums is usually a shop called "sklep akwarystyczny" in Polish (aquarium shop), although you can sometimes buy aquarium fish also in bigger zoological shops (sklep zoologiczny). Here's a thread about aquarium shops in Wrocław (it's from 2018 though):

nano-reef.pl/forums/topic/99266-sklepy-akwarystyczne-wroc%C5%82aw/


In Polish it's "forum akwarystyczne". This one seems to be quite active (Warsaw forum):

fawa.pl/

Here you can post/ask about shops from outside of Warsaw:

fawa.pl/viewforum.php?f=32

News / Lukashenko - removes graveyard - AK resistance fighters [51]


This is the only case (Nowy Sącz) from the links posted by you in which Soviet soldiers' remains were exhumated and moved to a cemetery and it happened only because Russians agreed to that.


It does to normal people.


Their sons didn't fight the Nazis. Their sons are invading a neighbouring country with Goebbels-like propaganda on their lips.

News / Lukashenko - removes graveyard - AK resistance fighters [51]

@Cojestdocholery, razing to the ground a cemetery of soldiers who were fighting against the Nazis shows to the world just how inhumane, amoral and unhinged Lukashenko is. I don't think even his Russian masters can support something like that, considering that their propaganda is based on claims about fighting the "Nazis". So, he's embarrassing himself in front of the world, not Poland.

Of course Poland should react, but in such a way as to not give Lukashenko what he wants, while leaving him looking like a deranged savage :)


How do you know?

News / Lukashenko - removes graveyard - AK resistance fighters [51]


Yes, he is and if he's doing that it means he has a purpose in that, so the smart and logical thing to do would be not to give him what he wants.


So, why aren't you telling Russians to move from Ukraine to Russia?


I doubt it - you wouldn't move from PRL to the US then. Belarus under Lukashenko's rule is one big PGR.

News / Lukashenko - removes graveyard - AK resistance fighters [51]

@Novichok, but you're not a country and I won't let you get away with hypocrisy and double standards in our forum debates :)

News / Lukashenko - removes graveyard - AK resistance fighters [51]

@Novichok, then according to your logic, people born in Eastern and Southern Ukraine are Ukrainians and if they are still "Russians" their Russian asses should have been taken to the curb a long time ago :)


Or... it was supposed to provoke Poles to make some kind of retaliation for this act of barbarism, so it could be shown on Belarusian TV with a proper commentary: "See, Poles hate Belarus and Belarusians for no reason at all..." If that's the case we shouldn't allow ourselves to get provoked by this. Perhaps Lukashenko is trying to put a wedge between Poles and Belarusians...


Bad idea, I think. Lukashenko would probably want that. We should keep our heads cool.

News / Lukashenko - removes graveyard - AK resistance fighters [51]

It's unbelievable that it really happened, but it did... Here's a photo of the Polish charge d'affaires in Belarus lying flowers and candles on that site after the graveyard got razed to the ground:

twitter.com/PLinBelarus/status/1544382361646899208?s=20&t=VQjmApCHifPT8BFnob0TTA

A former ambassador of Belarus in Poland said that it was an act of barbarism completely against the Belarusian tradition.

Incomprehensible... It must've been an act of pure hate on Lukashenko's part or reckless, blind revenge, because I can't explain it in any other way... Especially that there are Poles still living in Belarus - how they've must've felt? We respect the graves, even of our enemies...

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]


Why don't you make such an appeal to your fellow Russians and to yourself, you imperialistic creep.


China and North Korea aren't the same, the latter is much worse. Either way, Russia is heading in that direction and not in the opposite one.

News / Poland, Western Europe and the USA - What if Ukraine disappears from the map? [78]

@Velund, you moron, if you call what Ukrainians did in Donbas "GENOCIDE" (lol), then what are you going to call what you did to Chechnya and what you're doing now to Ukraine?? "SPECIAL OPERATION"?? You have no shame!


You never had any empathy to anyone who resisted you, no matter whether they did anything to you or not. You are devils in human skin.

News / Poland, Western Europe and the USA - What if Ukraine disappears from the map? [78]


Clearly it isn't - not for Putin, not for you, not for Bobko and not for majority of Russians, because you want this to go on. So - how many more Ukrainians are you ready to kill and maim? How many are you ready to torture? How many are you ready to send for years to labour colonies? How many are you ready to deport from their homes? HOW MANY, VELUND??


I wish, but I doubt that Putin will ever pay for this. And whatever the price you and your Putinazi ilk will pay, it most probably won't be enough.


Oh, we're getting ready, don't you worry.

News / Poland, Western Europe and the USA - What if Ukraine disappears from the map? [78]


You have no right to execute a democratically elected president of a foreign country.


That you've managed to unify against one enemy - Russia. Bravo! 🤦


Yes, very unsuccessful. So, how many Ukrainians are you ready to kill to achieve your goals? How many would be "too many"? Is there even such a limit in your f*cked up Russian minds?

News / Poland, Western Europe and the USA - What if Ukraine disappears from the map? [78]

@Bratwurst Boy, exactly, that's one of the things that I meant when I wrote that Ukraine isn't Chechnya.


You mean you'll have to kill, imprison, torture and terrorise more people. Aha.
So, how many Ukrainians are you going to kill? That psycho on Russian state TV said that it should be around 2 mln people. Do you agree with this number? Or do you think it would be less? Or more?

News / Poland, Western Europe and the USA - What if Ukraine disappears from the map? [78]


I think Cojestdocholery is right - Putin & Co probably are or were convinced that they can destroy and terrorise Ukraine to such an extent that Ukrainians will give up, like the Chechens did. Russians have a lot of experience with terrorising their own people and others. It seems they have it in their blood and maybe they're thinking it will work this time too. I think they're wrong though. Ukraine isn't Chechnya.

There are also those like Velund who seem to be completely deluded and don't know and don't understand the Ukrainian nation:



As we can see such delusions and lack of understanding of another nation are a very dangerous thing, because they have just led to a full scale war.

Love / Toxicity of SOME Polish Mothers Towards Their Daughters [33]

@Cojestdocholery, maybe she met Videobroker's family before and wasn't received/treated well by them and that's why she doesn't want to spend Christmas with his family? I don't know, so I'm asking.


No, of course not lol Why are you so shallow? I'm trying to help Videobroker.

Love / Toxicity of SOME Polish Mothers Towards Their Daughters [33]

@Cojestdocholery, I've seen, heard and read too many stories like this and I know all the patterns, signs, etc. It looks like that it's usually daughters of such Polish mothers that are more affected by those toxic relations, than sons are. From what I've noticed it's easier for sons to cut that umbilical cord.


lol
Even we would sometimes spend Christmas or Easter with my father's parents. Very rarely, but still... Nowadays I kind of understand why my mother maybe wasn't so eager to spend holidays with my other grandparents - her mother-in-law was also a toxic person lol ;/

Has your girlfriend met your family already?


How? From what I've noticed Polish men often have pretty much "wywalone" as far as family matters are concerned, so my father's attitude isn't that unusual.

Love / Toxicity of SOME Polish Mothers Towards Their Daughters [33]


Not really, they're the exact opposite from your point of view. They're usually those traditional Polish mothers and wives who go to church, take care of kids and the house, bake 20 cakes for Christmas and make their own families spend every freaking holiday with her "original, most important" family. That is, if they didn't rebel and turned into their toxic mothers or their mother's little slaves.


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The toxic types - yes. My female cousin even forbade her mother (=my aunt - my mother's sister) to tell my mother about her personal stuff. That's because my mother is a toxic person. And so is her mother (my aunt). Actually, both of my mother's sisters are toxic. The youngest of them is the most normal, but still...

Btw, my aunt is still telling our grandma about my cousins's personal stuff and my grandma is repeating all of that to my mother, so my mother gets to know stuff anyway... *sigh* I f*cking hate it. Fortunately the younger generation seems to be more normal.

Love / Toxicity of SOME Polish Mothers Towards Their Daughters [33]


Sweet Jesus, have mercy... It defenitely isn't the norm to spend every Saturday or Sunday with your parents for Polish couples... People have their own lives.


So true lol


Btw, in my case all those teachings came from my mother. My father had generally "wywalone".

Love / Toxicity of SOME Polish Mothers Towards Their Daughters [33]

@Videobroker, often both daughters and sons have close relations with their mothers in Poland. But there's "good close relations" and "bad close relations". Those "bad close relations" are usually when the mother is a toxic person. Adult kids of such mother often have problems with setting boundaries in their relations with their mother and have problems with standing up to her. It always has to be the way the mother wants.

The problem is that in Poland there's something I would call "family terror" and the "terror of the elders" (parents, your aunts and uncles always know better, even if you're an adult already). Families are often closely-knit. Family is everything. Family is the most important. You don't turn away from your family. And for a toxic type of a Polish Mother not spending Christmas or Easter together once in your life may be a "betrayal" of epic proportions lol And she will make you feel guilty for this.


Oh dear lol
So what is her mother like?


Yes, because often there's isn't much attachement. Maybe this is one of the reasons why Polish women may have stronger bonds with their mothers than their husbands... Because they weren't taught to have bonds with men? I don't know... Either way, it's kind of sad.


It sounds like your girlfriend needs to grow up... How old the two of you are, btw?

You know, the first step is to realise that there's a problem. I would give your girlfriend articles to read about toxic relations in Polish families, especially between Polish toxic mothers and their daughters. They've been an eye-opener for me. And not only the articles, but also the comments under those articles and blog posts of psychologists. It looks like there are a lot of Polish women with the same problem - their toxic mothers.

Maybe that will be enough. I think you should at least try. If it doesn't work, it is possible that she'll need a therapist's help with breaking that umbilical cord.

News / NATO expansion in northern Europe - great news for Poland [136]


No, noone wants to have cancer. Noone willingly invites cancer into one's body. So, in case of Ukraine your metaphor describes Russia, not NATO. Russia is the unwanted cancer that tries to spread all over one's body once it gets a foothold inside.

News / Will America send troops to fight a Russian invasion of Baltics and/or Poland? [281]

@Bobko, the Finns most definitely whooped the Soviet Army's asses. All you need to do is to look at the numbers - they don't lie.

According to the English version of Wikipedia the Finnish had 32 tanks, while the Soviets had 2,514-6,541 tanks. Finland had 114 aircraft and the Soviet Union had 3,880 aircraft. That's an absolutely crazy advantage in military strength!

The Winter War of 1939 ended with:

Finland - 25,904 dead soldiers
The Soviet Union - 126,875-167,976 dead soldiers

Finland - 43,557 wounded
The Soviet Union - 188,671-207,538 wounded or sick (including at least 61,506 sick or frostbitten).

Finland lost 20-30 tanks
The Soviet Union lost 1,200-3,543 tanks

Finland lost 62 aircraft
The Soviet Union lost 261-515 aircraft

Mind-blowing. That's some crazy sh1t figures!


Of course it was! For a nation of 3.5 million to defend itself against the Soviet Union which in 1939 had a population of 170 million and an overwhelming military advantage is verging on a freaking miracle! A real battle between David and Goliath!

The Finns lost however almost all of their tanks and a great part of their aircraft and with no outside help they had no other choice but to cede territory. They prevented however the Soviet Union from taking over their whole country. They managed to defend Finland's independence.


You are truly the hyena of Europe.


Of course they can. Their defense was truly heroic. I'm in absolute awe of them (and so was the world at that time, from what I've read). I don't know what kind of little, petty man you'd have to be to deny the Finnish soldiers the right to be called heroes after they managed to defend their homeland against such military power.

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]

@Lenka, yes, true, but those two young women cracked me up - I mean the one who pretended to bow down before that portrait of Putin and the other one was filming it or taking photos lol

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]

Something funny for a change - one Russian guy hanged a big portrait of Putin in his building's elevator in Moscow and put his camera next to a CCTV camera. Check out people's reactions (watch the whole thing!) ;D:

fb.watch/dWMFUiTlU_/

That was posted in 2021 - I wonder what the reactions would be now...

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]


In theory everything is possible, but that would be a very unlikely and wild scenario. Even Hitler needed a "good enough" reason that could "justify" invading Poland (German minority) in front of his people.

The Polish society would have to reach a higher level of insanity not only than the Russian society, but also than the German society under the Nazi rule, I guess. I don't know what would have to happen for something like this to take place...


But Ironside is a Konfederacja supporter. They're Polish nationalists. Some of them are pro-Russian, so maybe they would be willing to join Russia in partitioning Ukraine, but they're getting only a few percent of support in polls.

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]


It's difficult to imagine, to be honest... Majority of Poles don't consider Ukraine to be a "fake" country, we respect it's independence and their language. There is no big Polish minority in Ukraine that would have to be "saved". And a few objectionable monuments and street names isn't a good enough reason to invade a country...


First of all, such an invasion could happen most probably under an authoritarian or totalitarian regime, rather than in a normal democracy. Poles already stood up to such a regime during communist times. Of course it was easier for Poles, because that regime was forced upon Poland by a foreign power, so it wasn't viewed as unpatriotic to fight against it - on the contrary. Nevertheless, those opposing the regime were experiencing repressions, even a martial law was introduced. People were being sent to prison, fired from certain jobs, sent to the army, even if they didn't qualify for service, getting killed during strikes and protests.

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]

@Cojestdocholery, it's not that I prefer Velund over Bobko. It's just, in theory, Velund could be a product of Russian state propaganda. He lives in Russia. You can't say the same about Bobko. He lives in the West, he graduated from a Western university, he's enjoying all the benefits of democracy, free media, etc. And yet, he's a pro-Putin imperialist supporting invasion on Ukraine and he doesn't seem to mind all the death and destruction that the Russian army is inflicting in Ukraine. That's why he sends chills down my spine, no matter how "nice" he is.

Also, as far as I remember, he wrote that I wouldn't want to have him on the other side of the frontline in a war, or sth like that. I'm not sure what he meant, but probably nothing good :)


The end result would be the same for me in both situations - I'd get tortured (and killed if needs be).

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]


Yes, I realise that. It's natural that people are afraid. I didn't mean public protests or sth of this kind. But I think people could start organising themselves in not an open way. More like an underground social movement... Do you know what brought down communism in Poland? A trade union... It was called Solidarity... A bunch of ordinary people fighting, ironically, for workers' rights...

I remember that one Pole living in Berlin was laughing a bit at my friend from Moscow when she wrote that Russians probably have to start from basics, from their micro-worlds, like, for example, keeping the surroundings of their blocks of flats clean. But maybe she was right. It seems a civic society has to be built basically from scratch in Russia... You guys would have to learn to self-organise... Because one individual or a small group of people can't make a change or stand up to a regime. As you wrote, it's too dangerous. And pretty futile too. So, instead of having a few martyrs, it's better to organise and grow in numbers. Putin can lock up a few hundred or even a few thousand people, but he wouldn't be able to lock up millions. That was Solidarity's strength - 10 million members... "W kupie siła" as we say in Poland :)

Of course that wouldn't happen overnight, it would be a long process. Someone would have to educate people about the civic society, democracy and their benefits. That would be a lot of work though and I don't know if there would be enough people in Russia to take up such a task. Especially considering all the emigration that had happened after the invasion started...


Neither do I live in a little "world of hate" nor do I hate all things Russian. As you can see RussianAntiPutin is Russian and I don't hate her, so get a grip with reality.

Also, I'm not going to draw you into my world or anything else for that matter, because I don't need nor want such an impressionable, unstable and fickle drama queen like you in that world of mine, so get over yourself :)) This is a discussion forum and I'm simply sharing my opinions and observations. If you're not interested in them or you don't care what I think then you don't have to read them.


Oh, I don't think that all Russians who support the invasion are the same. It's just Bobko in my opinion is one of the worst types of those. I find Velund's hate, for example, against Ukraine for the casualties inflicted by Ukrainian forces in the Donbas region since 2014 more, let's say, "normal", than Bobko's cold imperialism. Hate can pass, but I doubt you can easily cure someone from imperialistic state of mind.

Of course, it would be great if I was wrong about Bobko, but so far he hasn't disagreed with anything I wrote about him, he hasn't denied anything or challenged my view of him. All he wrote was that he's a "doofus" in real life. What the f*ck is that supposed to mean? lol

(He's generally not very "responsive", so it's difficult to say whether anything people are writing, explaining, is sinking in in case of Bobko or not.)

And it's not just Bobko. During all those discussions with Russians I've noticed a pretty shocking lack of empathy and understanding for other nations and countries also among other pro-Putin Russians.

I've never noticed it among anti-Putin, pro-democratic Russians.

So, to sum it up, I find Russians like Bobko objectionable. Not all Russians, but Russian imperialists, chauvinists, Putinists. And not just because of their views, but also because of their lack of empathy, lack of moral values, cynicism, etc. Even if they're as polite as Bobko, because it's really not the most important quality in a human being for me.

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]

You guys are dividing up Russia in your minds so eagerly... but would people in those republics actually want that?


What policies are you talking about?


So you're two-faced? This is what I'm wondering about... Do your girlfriend and her parents know your views concerning war in Ukraine?

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]


I honestly doubt that his views can be changed in any way. I think you're being naive. He's here to present his views, not to change them.

And, anyway, Bobko is a guy who has no problem with the fact that innocent people are getting killed, cities destroyed and a country ruined to satisfy his country's imperialistic ambitions. Human life doesn't seem to be even a blip on his radar. He doesn't care. He doesn't seem to have any conscience and empathy. Do you think you can teach empathy and respect for human life to someone who has none? He is an adult man already. How are you going to do that?

Or maybe you also don't care?

It's strange to me that you get so invested in abortion issues, or women not wanting children, but at the same time you call someone like Bobko "not a bad guy". Russian soldiers are killing children too, not only adults. Children who have names and hopes and dreams already.


No, the people at the top won't change it, because they thrive on corruption. Only ordinary people can change it. Russians can't keep waiting for someone else to do that for them, because then the change will never happen. You have to take matters in your own hands. You have to organise yourselves. You, young people, could bring a change to your country. If not now, then once you're adults. You just have to believe that it's possible, that you can do it. Believe in yourselves. You're the future.

History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]

@AntV, are you American? (just curious)


You can be friends with whomever you like, but if you were friends with a Nazi (not just any German, but a real Hitler supporter) I, as a fellow Pole, would make my feelings about it known to you. And I do that in case of Putinists too. Especially those who are so open about their imperialism. 🤮