UK, Ireland / Common pitfalls for Poles learning English [187]


Oh... OK. Thanks :)


*faints*

UK, Ireland / Common pitfalls for Poles learning English [187]


So it doesn't really matter which you use unless you want to convey that you don't intend to move yet (and then it's "have been living")?

What about questions? Does it matter if I ask: "How long have you lived here?" or "How long have you been living here?"?

;)

UK, Ireland / Common pitfalls for Poles learning English [187]


So... if I say "I have lived here for 10 years" it means I don't live here anymore?

UK, Ireland / Common pitfalls for Poles learning English [187]


Oh yes, I have the same problem :/ I don't think I'll ever learn to use tenses in English correctly ;P
I just don't get them...

UK, Ireland / Avalon method course vs Conversation with a native speaker to learn English? [37]


I think this is the best choice... I remember that my FCE course helped me a lot.
As for vocabulary and listening skills - watch films and TV series. Your ear will get accustomed with time.
Reading books can be useful too :)
My younger brother also read a lot of comic books. His vocabulary is really rich :)


Definitely.

I think watching TV series is a good way to learn. But you have to choose "easy" ones at first.
For example, I've watched all seasons of "Lost" - there wasn't that much talking there, but a lot of action and dialogs were simple. But I don't know if even today I'm able to understand everything what Lorelai and Rory say in one of their "AK-47-style" conversations in "Gilmore Girls" ;)

I'd have problems with British stuff too, I guess, as I watch mostly American films and TV series.

Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]


But... affection towards strangers? I don't get it...
I think I've read here on this forum comments of Americans who wrote that Poles leave too little space between people during conversation or on the bus, so I thought they need more space and don't like any physical contact with strangers ;)

Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]


Oh... o_O
Then you're right - touching, hugging and cuddling with strangers... eewww xD


?


Probably xD

Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]


Oh come on, pgtx, most women in the world love touching, hugging, cuddling - Polish women are no different ;) Of course, if they are with a man they want and have feelings for.


That's the way I see it too...

Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]


Hey... That's not fair... And it's cruel ;D
At least explain why you're unable to tell us anything more ;)


Men :/


Looks like it :P

Food / Help me like Polish food (recommendations) [48]


Hmm...
Why do you need/want to like Polish food, Teffle?
Any particular reason?

Love / THE POLISH DISEASE, wanna marry a Polish girl ? read on... [197]


Men on this forum do this to Polish women all the time :)

Love / THE POLISH DISEASE, wanna marry a Polish girl ? read on... [197]

I would say it's a warning to Eastern European women not to marry Western men in general, not only Americans or Americans of Polish descent ;)

Stantheman's post is more or less PolishForums.com in a nutshell.

Love / THE POLISH DISEASE, wanna marry a Polish girl ? read on... [197]

LOL

So you wanted to marry this:

And you got a real woman instead! Wow! :D


Judging by what you've written you decided to marry a stereotype and you married a girl because she was "cute, blonde and Polish" and then you realized that you have nothing in common with her? What a surprise! Way the go, genius! :D

Oh yeah, and you're so witty too ;D

Stantheman, it seems you're paying for your stupidity now. If you're so miserable in this relationship then get a divorce. If the woman you married isn't the so called gold-digger then she's probably as unhappy in this marriage as you are. So you'll do both of you a favour.

Btw, I've found perfect T-shirts for you:

zazzle.co.uk/i_love_my_polish_wife_tshirt-235364071845687048

xD


How come if American women and men are so perfect?? :D Do they all marry Polish people from Poland? xD


Indeed...


True :)


I was wondering about that too ;)
I'm also curious how old is she...

Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]


Not really, it's Popcorn who has given this thread a title "Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch." lol
In his first post there's no mention of her feelings, it's only about touching, his needs and his feelings. He writes later about his doubts as far as her feelings are concerned, but most of the time it's about touching. So it's even more weird because he's trying to touch her although he even doesn't know if she has any romantic feelings for him. He wrote they talked for hours, he drew portaits of her, went to movies, out to eat, she's now living in an extra room in his apartment. But all of this can be said about a pair of good friends.

He wrote:


"This far"? lol He can't even hold her hand! They didn't kiss even once. Apparently she didn't say that she has any romantic feelings for him. And he calls it a "relationship"...

Bewildering...


You think he's a teenager? o_O


THAT would be interesting :D

Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]


Well, it doesn't look like this to me:



Sure, it's possible.
But it also seems he isn't that much interested in her feelings towards him. It looks like he's only interested in touching and this is the only problem he sees - that there's no touching ;)

Don't you find it weird that he didn't ask about her feelings before she moved in? That they didn't kiss even once? She lives in a spare room - it's not like she's sleeping with him in one bed.

So why did he think there's going to be a romantic relationship? It's just weird, I'm confused by this story...

Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]


Well, it looks like his attitude is like this: "I give you my spare room, I give you food, you give me sex." LOL

I know I'm simplifying but it's pretty obvious that she's not attracted to him and has no romantic feelings for him. So what did he expect? He wrote that she knew about his feelings from the start. So how was she behaving back then, before moving in? Did he even ask about her feelings before she moved in? Did he ask her to move in or did she ask him?

We only know his side of the story so I guess we girls try to think about what's her side of the story too ;)


Yeah, it's a weird situation...


I guess we'll find out in two days, if Popcorn is willing to share her decision with us ;)


As far as I understand he didn't, he showed her this forum, but didn't confirm that this is the thread he had in mind.

Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]

I must admit I agree with shewolf... If you didn't say that a romantic relationship was a condition of her living in your spare room she could think that it was a friend's favour. If you feel used then tell her to give you some money to pay for the rent or at least for the food. If she can't cook then tell her to do the dishwashing. Although this whole thing probably won't work as you clearly want a relationship, not friendship.


Me too, it's always good to hear it to get the full picture.


Eewww, that's grose ;O

Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]


Well, she gave you most of the nonverbal signals one can think of... And she didn't claim that she had any romantic feelings for you? But I agree that when asked directly she should give a direct answer.


It's possible ;)


I was wondering about that too...

Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]

Popcorn, I think there are all kinds of possible explanations:

1. She just wants to be friends with you.
2. She had traumatic experience with men (as Zetigrek wrote) and that's why doesn't want to be touched and doesn't want to explain why she doesn't want to be touched.

3. She's using you (a room for free, food for free).
4. She's a virgin or she's ashamed of her body (but I don't know if that's the case as you wrote that she's "sexy").

5. She doesn't believe you have feelings for her and thinks that you tell her bs just to have sex with her.
6. She's a lesbian and she's not aware of this lol ;)


I don't think so, not to such an extent.
Judging by what I read here on this forum Polish people are not as easy-going and open as Americans. But holding hands for a couple in Poland is pretty normal. There are people who may find it childish and laugh about it. But it seems she doesn't want anything that can be associated with a romantic relationship.

So it looks like she doesn't see you two as a couple.
I am a bit of introvert myself, but I would behave like her only in such situations, I guess:
- when a guy is too fast for me, and I need time to decide what I want,
- when I think that a guy is doing some sweet talk just to get me into his bed,
- and when there's no physical attraction and I have problems with saying this to a man as I don't want to hurt his feelings, because I like him.

Four months for some people maybe enough time, for others - not enough. It's really hard to say, as I don't know this girl.

I think some more info would be useful, like:
- when she moved in to your place, was she already aware of your feelings and your physical attraction to her?
- how old is she? What's the age difference between you two?
- does she have a job, any money?
- did she have any boyfriends before?
- how good is her English?


Are you sure? How long have you known each other?


I think you should simply confront her, tell her that you don't understand the situation and what is it that she wants. Being friends or romantic relationship. Maybe she will be more relaxed after a drink and will be more talkative. I don't know if trying to touch her when she's tipsy is a good idea. She may understand this in the wrong way - that you want to make her drunk and more "accessible" (and it kinda looks like it).


Then maybe don't laugh about it anymore, talk to her and tell her how difficult this situation is for you. Tell her that you prefer her to be honest with you.

That's my two cents ;)

Life / 2 months to go - I will be a Polish citizen and try to find a better place to raise my kid. [67]


"Wake up"? lol People will only think that you're a hateful anti-Polish xenophobe if you write with such contempt and they won't take you seriously.



:S

History / Digital reconstruction of Warszawa - Miasto Ruin - rebuilding the destroyed Warsaw [31]


I don't think I've ever come across such a twisted logic as yours... O_O

History / Poland provoked Germany to start WW2 by mobilising first [94]


I don't understand. According to you Poles insist that insisting on free elections wasn't Churchill's and Roosevelt's pleasure?


Oh, I think that if you live in Poland you know well enough that those actions are addressed and criticised by Poles (even very very much so).


You mean Polish United Workers' Party?
According to English Wikipedia:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_United_Workers%27_Party


Maybe for neutral relations with the Soviet Union? To appease Stalin?


What are you talking about?


It's just an expression - in this context "sprzedana" (sold) means "betrayed". It's not like Stalin paid them in gold LOL

I guess they just "gave away" Poland to Stalin for free.
Or maybe I don't know about something?


No, I think you just don't understand what they mean.

History / Poland provoked Germany to start WW2 by mobilising first [94]


They could insist all they wanted, but that didn't change the fact that those elections weren't free. Those elections that followed after the elections of 1947 were even less free.

Study / Is Gdansk the best place to study? [9]


Juwenalia are celebrated in every Polish city with a university, Gdańsk included :):
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juwenalia


Yeah, Juwenalia can be pretty crazy ;)

Travel / A video I'd like to share: Zakopane, 8-hour Hike [VIDEO] [26]

Rexio, great video :) It looks professional :)


I'm like that too ;) I like such people :)

Love / Polish girls and jealousy. They always suspect I have other gfs. [33]


True.


LOL
No, they just know men:


You see? :)


We all know in our hearts how people are in general. If someone isn't in love with a person she/he is with, usually he/she will look around consciously or unconsciously for someone they'll like more. This goes both for men and women.

Travel / My visit to Poland - Likes & Dislikes. [137]


Yes, I also think so when it's about tourists. It's silly to expect from someone who's coming to Poland for a couple of days to learn not the easiest language. Although when I'm visiting some foreign country I usually try to learn a couple of basic phrases useful while asking about directions, shopping, etc. (and I would do that if I were coming to Hungary too).

Well, I remember that when I was in Venice (swarming with tourists) and I went to a post office just behind St. Mark's Square (!) there was only one guy who spoke English and so I was able to buy stamps but when I came back after I finished writing postcards the guy was gone and the ladies weren't able to tell me (and other tourists) where I can send those postcards ;) It was quite a long time ago, but I was a bit surprised ;)

Btw, I've never thought of Poland as an obvious and attractive tourist destination, but I agree that in some places popular with tourists it's a good idea for the staff in shops, post offices or whatever to learn some English. At the same time there are in my opinion more important reasons to learn English (finding a job, for example) than being able to communicate with tourists.

And it will change with time - now kids learn English in schools (I had to learn Russian) and the same is with teenagers and students and in the future they will be able to communicate with tourists in English to some extent.

Travel / My visit to Poland - Likes & Dislikes. [137]


I just hope it was a typo... :)

Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [263]


I don't know. Did they explain why it's incorrect? It would have to be explained to me in a relatively simple, non-scientific language ;)

And if it's incorrect then why Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, Slovakia, etc. have such a high percentage of R1a? Doesn't this mean those nations are related to each other?


I don't understand...


True, but Pan-Slavism movement wasn't very popular in Poland and isn't popular to this day.


And what does mean "Slavic in historical sense"?


True, but in Poland it isn't a big degree, I would say quite small, it's much bigger in Russia, and apparently in Serbia.

As I wrote before, Pan-Slavism wasn't very popular in Poland. The reason for this was the fact that it was used as a political tool by both the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union to dominate and govern other Slavic nations:

"Pan-Slavism in Poland

Although early Pan-Slavism had found interest among some Poles, it soon lost its appeal as the movement became dominated by Russia, and while Russian Pan-Slavists spoke of liberation of other Slavs through Russian actions, parts of Poland had been ruled by the Russian Empire since the Partitions of Poland. Historically, Poland often saw itself in partnership with non-Slavic nations most of the time, such as Hungary, or Lithuania under the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth from 1569 to 1795. The influence of 19th century Pan-Slavism had little impact in Poland except for creating sympathy towards the other oppressed Slavic nations to regaining independence. At the same time while Pan-Slavism worked against Austro-Hungary with South Slavs, Poles enjoyed a wide autonomy within the state and assumed a loyalist position as they were able to develop their national culture and preserve Polish language, something under threat in both German and Russian Empires. A Pan-Slavic federation was proposed, but on the condition that the Russian Empire would be excluded from such an entity. After Poland regained its independence (from Germany, Austria and Russia) in 1918 no major or minor force considered Pan-Slavism as a serious alternative, viewing Pan-Slavism as little more than a code word for Russification. During Poland's communist era the USSR used Pan-Slavism as propaganda tool to justify its control over the country. The issue of the Pan-Slavism was not part of the mainstream political agenda, and is widely seen as an ideology of Russian imperialism."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Slavism#Pan-Slavism_in_Poland

Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [263]

Natasa, I have no idea about phenotypes, genotypes, haplogroups and genetics in general :) I must say that your post didn't help me with understanding why the data in eupedia don't mean anything.

I don't care about genes either, but it was interesting to study this data.
For example, the second biggest haplogroup in Poland is R1b: Italic, Celtic, Germanic; Hittite, Armenian. So, given the proximity of Germany it's probably "Germanic".

Also, the biggest percentage of R1b is in Wales (82 %!). Does this mean that Wales are the most Celtic? Wales are followed by Ireland (79 %), Scotland (72.5 %) and England (67 %). Very high percentage. It seems quite logical as Welsh, Irish, Scottish and English people live on islands and therefore there was little mixing.


True. That's why family members shouldn't have children with each other - it would produce a greater risk of flawed DNA.
Mongrels, for example, are less prone to heridatary diseases than single breed dogs, as far as I know.


I have an impression that it's rather Serbs who like to stress how Slavic they are. Look at Crow LOL
Poles don't care that much about being Slavs or not - Pan-Slavism wasn't very popular in Poland.
And Poles consider Serbs as Slavs ;) I think the same is with the rest of Slavs.