PWEI
28 Jul 2011
PWEI
29 Aug 2011
History / Let's talk about the POLISH ARMY [79]
There is as much chance of that happening as there is of a lesbian Jew being appointed pope.
There is as much chance of that happening as there is of a lesbian Jew being appointed pope.
PWEI
31 Aug 2011
Life / 3 reasons why you hate Poland. [1049]
[quote=Monia
I tried to defend ignorant women [/quote]
I somehow doubt that it worked out well for them. Perhaps they should have got a proper defence lawyer.
[quote=Monia
I tried to defend ignorant women [/quote]
I somehow doubt that it worked out well for them. Perhaps they should have got a proper defence lawyer.
PWEI
31 Aug 2011
Life / 3 reasons why you hate Poland. [1049]
That would be the reaction of most people when it comes to the idea of moania defending them.
Although you might want to not pretend you're a lawyer while using your real name, that may well be criminal. Oh, and please don't give us your expert opinion as to whether it is or not.
Defence lawyer haha .
That would be the reaction of most people when it comes to the idea of moania defending them.
Although you might want to not pretend you're a lawyer while using your real name, that may well be criminal. Oh, and please don't give us your expert opinion as to whether it is or not.
PWEI
31 Aug 2011
Life / 3 reasons why you hate Poland. [1049]
[quote=pgtx
Try to stay on topic. Thanks.[/quote]
Sorry, will try harder.
[quote=pgtx
Try to stay on topic. Thanks.[/quote]
Sorry, will try harder.
PWEI
5 Sep 2011
History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]
Really? Which of those three leaders wanted to send planes with supplies for Warsaw and then land them at Soviet bases without Soviet permission? And which one replied with the words "I do not consider it advantageous to the long range general war prospect for me to join with you in the proposed message to U.J. [Uncle Joe]"?
every little battle they won was lost thanks to Churchill and Roosevelt ( by the hands of Stalin).
Really? Which of those three leaders wanted to send planes with supplies for Warsaw and then land them at Soviet bases without Soviet permission? And which one replied with the words "I do not consider it advantageous to the long range general war prospect for me to join with you in the proposed message to U.J. [Uncle Joe]"?
PWEI
5 Sep 2011
Law / Buying a USED CAR in Poland, my personal experiences and TRAPS to avoid !! [133]
Go to Germany and get one there.
I'm wondering what people would suggest if they were in my position??
Go to Germany and get one there.
PWEI
6 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
Yes, that is the line which is repeated ad nauseam these days. Unfortunately, women who were actually there then and met Poles tell it somewhat differently:
bbc/ww2peopleswar/stories/91/a4529991.shtml
Poles were very popular with the women of the UK and had a reputation as lotharios :)
Yes, that is the line which is repeated ad nauseam these days. Unfortunately, women who were actually there then and met Poles tell it somewhat differently:
The polish Squadron were more animals that human, even our male counterparts complained with disgust at their habits, especially the A.G.M General duties cleaner etc. Toilets were filthy, the huts the same, they peed out of the windows etc, but the worst was yet to come. Several WAAF had been attacked and raped, none in the MT section, but it was scary and the girls were scared to go anywhere. The girls in the MT section had to. Our section was away a long way from our billets and the shortest way was a field path mostly we went in two's etc but we knew there would be times when we'd finish late and therefore a lone walk home. I carried a short tyre iron in my wellie, and fully intended to use it if necessary. Unfortunately it became necessary as I was attacked on my way back to the billet after an extended duty. I finished that night about 9pm instead of 8pm and was really tired so I had to walk back, on the way two drunken yobbish poles came out of nowhere and had a go, one behind grabbed me and I went forward knowing that he was drunk to try and put him off balance, and a sharp elbow helped. As I went forward my right arm was still pinned so I reached over and managed to grab the tyre iron with my left hand, as the other one rushed forward I lifted it outwards and hit him on the side of the head, the other one let go and staggered backwards and I took off.
bbc/ww2peopleswar/stories/91/a4529991.shtml
PWEI
6 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
Largely because she didn't. My grandmother did and she doesn't recall being particularly impressed or unimpressed with the Poles that she met then.
Interesting that instead of making any attempt to discuss the facts as presented, you instead try to make ad hom remarks. That is usually a very good sign that somebody knows that they have lost the argument.
Largely because she didn't. My grandmother did and she doesn't recall being particularly impressed or unimpressed with the Poles that she met then.
Interesting that instead of making any attempt to discuss the facts as presented, you instead try to make ad hom remarks. That is usually a very good sign that somebody knows that they have lost the argument.
PWEI
6 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
If that was the aim, I would have clearly failed: the article is about Polish airmen.
Please don't lie: I didn't spend any time at all googling, this article has already been posted on PF.
Grzegorz
You were desperately trying to find something negative about Polish soldiers in the UK
You were desperately trying to find something negative about Polish soldiers in the UK
If that was the aim, I would have clearly failed: the article is about Polish airmen.
Grzegorz
after long time spent on googling,
after long time spent on googling,
Please don't lie: I didn't spend any time at all googling, this article has already been posted on PF.
PWEI
6 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
a) Where did I say it happened during the BoB or that Polish fighter pilots were involved?
b) In that article there are no dates at all, all we know is that it was before December 1941.
c) The article refers to them as Poles and makes no comment as to whether they were fighter pilots or not (although they were allegedly 'fighting me').
The statement which I was replying to was "Poles were very popular with the women of the UK and had a reputation as lotharios :)" No mention there about the BoB or Polish fighter pilots.
actually Harry if you read the article more carefully it transpires that the events described did not happen during the Battle of Britain and also no Polish fighter pilots were involved
a) Where did I say it happened during the BoB or that Polish fighter pilots were involved?
b) In that article there are no dates at all, all we know is that it was before December 1941.
c) The article refers to them as Poles and makes no comment as to whether they were fighter pilots or not (although they were allegedly 'fighting me').
The statement which I was replying to was "Poles were very popular with the women of the UK and had a reputation as lotharios :)" No mention there about the BoB or Polish fighter pilots.
PWEI
6 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
So you are reading into the article things which the article does not say. OK.
However the article was posted in reply to the statement that "Poles were very popular with the women of the UK and had a reputation as lotharios :)" It very much casts doubt on that particular claim. And it seems from comments posted here that some Poles are very much attached to that particular claim and don't like people to address the historical accuracy of it (just as they don't like people looking at the historical accuracy of other 'facts' from the Polish version of history).
most logical conclusion: there were not many fighter pilots there and most probably none of those who fought in the Battle of Britain
So you are reading into the article things which the article does not say. OK.
However the article was posted in reply to the statement that "Poles were very popular with the women of the UK and had a reputation as lotharios :)" It very much casts doubt on that particular claim. And it seems from comments posted here that some Poles are very much attached to that particular claim and don't like people to address the historical accuracy of it (just as they don't like people looking at the historical accuracy of other 'facts' from the Polish version of history).
PWEI
6 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
Got a source for that? As far as I know, many of the Spitfires used in the BoB were purchased with money which had been specifically donated by persons or organisations, but certainly not all.
No, most British units were also using Hurricanes. Yes the Hurricane was slower than the Me109 and the Spitfire, but it could out-turn both of them and absorb more punishment too.
One could suppose that, it seems very credible. But do we have any evidence or witness statements to support our supposition?
And, please note that the statement which is questioned by the article is "Poles were very popular with the women of the UK and had a reputation as lotharios :)", not 'Polish fighter pilots were ....'
apparently all spitfires used in BoB were bought privately
Got a source for that? As far as I know, many of the Spitfires used in the BoB were purchased with money which had been specifically donated by persons or organisations, but certainly not all.
do have memory of Polish pilots saying that that were flying Hurricane airplanes in BoB ( weren't they slower then Me109?) while most or part of british divisions were using Spitfires
No, most British units were also using Hurricanes. Yes the Hurricane was slower than the Me109 and the Spitfire, but it could out-turn both of them and absorb more punishment too.
Harry care to consider that fighter pilots (either Polish or otherwise) were a bit different lot to bomber air crews - one can easily imagine these guys were much more chivalrous -
One could suppose that, it seems very credible. But do we have any evidence or witness statements to support our supposition?
And, please note that the statement which is questioned by the article is "Poles were very popular with the women of the UK and had a reputation as lotharios :)", not 'Polish fighter pilots were ....'
PWEI
6 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
You are indeed wrong: the majority of the RAF's squadrons during the BoB were equipped with Hurricanes. Which is why the Hurricane accounted for 55% of the Luftwaffe's losses. There is a decent article about the Hurricane and the BoB here if you are interested.
independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/our-forgotten-freedom-fighter-why-the-unsung-hurricane-is-the-true-ace-of-the-battle-of-britain-2022105.html
They were indeed the highest claiming unit.
Sometimes it saves lives and at other times it costs them: 303's top scoring pilot (who wasn't actually Polish) died as a result of showing off to his girlfriend.
RetroDog]however I do believe (but I may be wrong) that at the moment 303 were allowed to fight, most britt divisions has had Spitfires.
You are indeed wrong: the majority of the RAF's squadrons during the BoB were equipped with Hurricanes. Which is why the Hurricane accounted for 55% of the Luftwaffe's losses. There is a decent article about the Hurricane and the BoB here if you are interested.
independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/our-forgotten-freedom-fighter-why-the-unsung-hurricane-is-the-true-ace-of-the-battle-of-britain-2022105.html
RetroDog] But even if I'm wrong 303 was the best division using hurricanes
They were indeed the highest claiming unit.
RetroDog]See , insubordination save lives.
Sometimes it saves lives and at other times it costs them: 303's top scoring pilot (who wasn't actually Polish) died as a result of showing off to his girlfriend.
PWEI
6 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
Exactly: read carefully. I said "They were indeed the highest claiming unit.", not "They were indeed the highest claiming unit which was equipped with Hurricanes."
BTW, you might want to be careful saying that 303 was only the fourth best but that it claimed the most: some Poles don't like people asking questions about the sacred 'facts' of Polish history.
On that we all agree.
Exactly: read carefully. I said "They were indeed the highest claiming unit.", not "They were indeed the highest claiming unit which was equipped with Hurricanes."
BTW, you might want to be careful saying that 303 was only the fourth best but that it claimed the most: some Poles don't like people asking questions about the sacred 'facts' of Polish history.
RetroDog]anyway all RAF done great job at stopping luftwaffe
On that we all agree.
PWEI
6 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
Fine then, here is a precise breakdown of the numbers of planes:
The RAF fighter total strength at 17 July 1940
675 Hawker Hurricanes (58%),
348 Spitfires (30%),
95 Bristol Blenheims (developed from the bomber) (8%),
39 Defiants (power operated turret two seat fighter) (3%),
9 Gladiators (single seat biplane fighter) (0.5%)
5 Westland Whirlwinds (twin engined single seat fighter) (0.5%)
d_hodgkinson.madasafish.com/hawker-Vspit.htm
To quote the RAF website
raf.mod.uk/history/hawkerhurricane.cfm
To quote the RAF Museum
rafmuseum.org.uk/london/learning/resources/Teachers%20Pack%201%20Spitfire%20and%20Hurricane.pdf.
fighter-planes.com/info/hurricane.htm
So, if your recollection is correct and Polish pilots were claiming that the majority of the British were flying Spitfires in the BoB, those Polish pilots are either were mistaken or were being at best economical with the truth.
RetroDog
first of your article about hurricanes is nice, well done, even eye watering, but also useless.
first of your article about hurricanes is nice, well done, even eye watering, but also useless.
Fine then, here is a precise breakdown of the numbers of planes:
The RAF fighter total strength at 17 July 1940
675 Hawker Hurricanes (58%),
348 Spitfires (30%),
95 Bristol Blenheims (developed from the bomber) (8%),
39 Defiants (power operated turret two seat fighter) (3%),
9 Gladiators (single seat biplane fighter) (0.5%)
5 Westland Whirlwinds (twin engined single seat fighter) (0.5%)
d_hodgkinson.madasafish.com/hawker-Vspit.htm
A total of 1,715 Hurricanes flew with Fighter Command during the period of the Battle, far in excess of all other British fighters combined.
To quote the RAF website
raf.mod.uk/history/hawkerhurricane.cfm
The Hurricane was the principal fighter in the Battle of Britain, not the Spitfire as most people think. During the Battle of Britain there were 32 Squadrons with Hurricanes and only 19 Squadrons of Spitfires.
To quote the RAF Museum
rafmuseum.org.uk/london/learning/resources/Teachers%20Pack%201%20Spitfire%20and%20Hurricane.pdf.
On 8 August 1940, which is regarded officially as the opening date of the Battle of Britain, the RAF could call upon 32 squadrons of Hurricanes and 19 squadrons of Supermarine Spitfires.
fighter-planes.com/info/hurricane.htm
So, if your recollection is correct and Polish pilots were claiming that the majority of the British were flying Spitfires in the BoB, those Polish pilots are either were mistaken or were being at best economical with the truth.
PWEI
6 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
It isn't to be believed: on one particular day 303 by itself claimed more kills that the Luftwaffe actually lost to every squadron in the RAF combined. So much for "the Poles were very strict with their pilots when it came to claims and their claims were all verified through German records."!
One reason may have been that 303 let him fly pretty much when and where he wanted. And as he was usually by himself, witnesses for his claims weren't always there.
One of grandfathers flew Spitfires and the other Wellingtons and then Liberators. I still place greater reliance in the words of somebody who was actually there at the time than I do the words of somebody who is just repeating tales they were told (and which were at best second-hand when told to them).
if this is to be believed, and there is paper source given, confirmed kills of 303 was 117, with best british 501 with 87 kills. (they were flying hurricanes until April '41).
It isn't to be believed: on one particular day 303 by itself claimed more kills that the Luftwaffe actually lost to every squadron in the RAF combined. So much for "the Poles were very strict with their pilots when it came to claims and their claims were all verified through German records."!
BTW the Czech guy flew in the Polish 303 squadron voluntarily (he was offered to fly in a Czech squadron but declined)
One reason may have been that 303 let him fly pretty much when and where he wanted. And as he was usually by himself, witnesses for his claims weren't always there.
Yes, I said that Harry,and stand by it,coming from an RAF family and having two uncles who fought in the Battle of Britain,both in Hurricanes ,one alongside two Polish lads in his RAF sqdrn,I stand by my statement.
One of grandfathers flew Spitfires and the other Wellingtons and then Liberators. I still place greater reliance in the words of somebody who was actually there at the time than I do the words of somebody who is just repeating tales they were told (and which were at best second-hand when told to them).
PWEI
6 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
It's entirely possible that they flew Hurricanes during the BoB and their squadrons later switched to Spitfires.
It's entirely possible that they flew Hurricanes during the BoB and their squadrons later switched to Spitfires.
PWEI
6 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
And another lie from you: there most certainly were Poles in the 19 Spitfire equipped squadrons, less than two thirds of the Poles who took part in the BoB flew in the two 'Polish' fighter squadrons which took part in the BoB. And as has already been pointed out: most Brits were also in Hurricanes.
And another lie from you: there most certainly were Poles in the 19 Spitfire equipped squadrons, less than two thirds of the Poles who took part in the BoB flew in the two 'Polish' fighter squadrons which took part in the BoB. And as has already been pointed out: most Brits were also in Hurricanes.
PWEI
6 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
No, not at all. The Bf 109 was supposed to use a Junkers engine but there were problems with it and so the RR was used until those were ironed out. The Bf 109 had a better engine than either the Spitfire or the Hurricane (at least until Tilly's orifice was fitted to partly solve the negative G problems the RR had).
However the MiG 15 and MiG 17 most certainly did use an engine which was a direct copy of a Rolls Royce jet engine (the Nene I think).
No, not at all. The Bf 109 was supposed to use a Junkers engine but there were problems with it and so the RR was used until those were ironed out. The Bf 109 had a better engine than either the Spitfire or the Hurricane (at least until Tilly's orifice was fitted to partly solve the negative G problems the RR had).
However the MiG 15 and MiG 17 most certainly did use an engine which was a direct copy of a Rolls Royce jet engine (the Nene I think).
PWEI
7 Sep 2011
History / 'Battle of Britain' won thanks to Polish aces !! [158]
I wonder why you didn't finish the quote. Could it be because you know that the full statement was that the best AND worst pilots under his command during the BofB were the two Polish Squadrons? I wonder.
And let's not forget that according to Bader the pilots of 302 squadron were gay.
Ironside That guy said Polish Squadron are the best.......
Douglas Robert Steuart Bader
Douglas Robert Steuart Bader
I wonder why you didn't finish the quote. Could it be because you know that the full statement was that the best AND worst pilots under his command during the BofB were the two Polish Squadrons? I wonder.
And let's not forget that according to Bader the pilots of 302 squadron were gay.
PWEI
8 Sep 2011
Law / Getting Married in Poland without a visa? [23]
a) If one is in Poland illegal, one can try to get married but one should expect to get caught while trying.
b) The fact that you don't know that marriages are registered on the gmina level but residency permits are applied for on the wojewodztwo level very much suggests that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
a) If one is in Poland illegal, one can try to get married but one should expect to get caught while trying.
b) The fact that you don't know that marriages are registered on the gmina level but residency permits are applied for on the wojewodztwo level very much suggests that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
PWEI
9 Sep 2011
Work / Planning a move to Wroclaw (a company offers me a Gross salary of 4000 Polish Zloty) [23]
No. And most certainly none that you will be able to afford on 4,000zl per month gross.
Do we have good english schools/international schools around?
No. And most certainly none that you will be able to afford on 4,000zl per month gross.
PWEI
9 Sep 2011
Work / Planning a move to Wroclaw (a company offers me a Gross salary of 4000 Polish Zloty) [23]
Plus gas, electricity, cable TV and telephone. Makes about 1900 minimum.
Average monthly rent for a 2 room apartment in a medium-class zone:
1600-2000 Zloty (PLN)
1600-2000 Zloty (PLN)
Plus gas, electricity, cable TV and telephone. Makes about 1900 minimum.
PWEI
10 Sep 2011
Law / Is it possible to change visit visa to student or work permit in Poland? [16]
It is technically possible to do that without leaving Poland but it's very very difficult to do. However, it is impossible to do so when one only has a week left on one's visa. Sorry. Your best bet is to do three months in the UK and then return to Poland.
It is technically possible to do that without leaving Poland but it's very very difficult to do. However, it is impossible to do so when one only has a week left on one's visa. Sorry. Your best bet is to do three months in the UK and then return to Poland.
PWEI
13 Sep 2011
Life / Poland: worst teeth in the world? [98]
I'd say that the dentists here are much better than dentists in the UK or in the other countries I have lived in. And the prices for private work here are pretty much what you'd pay for NHS work in the UK.
The skill of Polish dentists is on a par with anything I've seen (felt) in the UK and elsewhere, but the prices for private dentistry are much lower here.
I'd say that the dentists here are much better than dentists in the UK or in the other countries I have lived in. And the prices for private work here are pretty much what you'd pay for NHS work in the UK.
PWEI
14 Sep 2011
Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]
If she is Polish, why doesn't she know that it isn't a Polish word? The authoritative multi-volume Slownik Jezyka Polskiego (dictionary) of Karlowicz, Kryñski and Niedzwiedzki (Warsaw, 1905) lists the following forms: “babka, babcia, babciutka, babeczka, babusia, babuœ, babuchna, babunia, babuñcia, babuleñka and babulinka.” The “busia” version is not among them.
Wow, I don't think I've ever before heard of a plastic Pole whose ancestors weren't even Polish!
No, she was Polish and you are an idiot Dopeyandomine. The explaination has been given for the term "Busia" and your lies have been exposed.
If she is Polish, why doesn't she know that it isn't a Polish word? The authoritative multi-volume Slownik Jezyka Polskiego (dictionary) of Karlowicz, Kryñski and Niedzwiedzki (Warsaw, 1905) lists the following forms: “babka, babcia, babciutka, babeczka, babusia, babuœ, babuchna, babunia, babuñcia, babuleñka and babulinka.” The “busia” version is not among them.
Wow, I don't think I've ever before heard of a plastic Pole whose ancestors weren't even Polish!
PWEI
22 Sep 2011
Real Estate / Cost to build in Eastern Poland - Ideally per m2 [71]
And of course, they would never dream of trying to get away with giving you less money than you actually need, would they?
The 3K figure is what they give you to build a replacement house, so its the official, true, figure based on what builders are currently charging.
And of course, they would never dream of trying to get away with giving you less money than you actually need, would they?
PWEI
22 Sep 2011
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]
Merged: Report on racism in Poland
cms.horus.be/files/99935/MediaArchive/Poland.pdf
doesn't make for happy reading.
One bit in the summary made me wonder: "The racist crime rate in 2009 increased in comparison to previous years. In particular, black people are vulnerable to verbal and physical attacks. AntiSemite slogans and posters still remain a problem." Is that increase caused by an increase in racism in Poland or is simply that there are more minorities in Poland and so there are more of them for crime to be committed against?
Merged: Report on racism in Poland
cms.horus.be/files/99935/MediaArchive/Poland.pdf
doesn't make for happy reading.
One bit in the summary made me wonder: "The racist crime rate in 2009 increased in comparison to previous years. In particular, black people are vulnerable to verbal and physical attacks. AntiSemite slogans and posters still remain a problem." Is that increase caused by an increase in racism in Poland or is simply that there are more minorities in Poland and so there are more of them for crime to be committed against?
PWEI
22 Sep 2011
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]
It's possible (I do know people who have been attacked for being English) but unlikely. Of course, if you're other than white English, the chances go up significantly.
will people be racist to me for being English in Poland?
It's possible (I do know people who have been attacked for being English) but unlikely. Of course, if you're other than white English, the chances go up significantly.