Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


Of course the teacher should take under consideration learners aprroach but we cannot change the specificity of the Polish language. I belive everybody in an individual, but mechanism is general. Especially at the begining of the learning process teaching methods

should be very similar for everybody. Of course it they work (-:


Male, Female, Neutrum

but also in Plural

Male people/personal gender and Not male people/personal gender

That is why you say:

"profesorowie byli" but "koty były" however "profesor" is male and "kot" is male in singular

And
male animated versus male inanimate
this is important in Acc. and Gen. plural

In plural we make also a difference between

male personal and male animated

So it looks like seven I am afraid (-:

But the point is not how many cases we have.
Polish is like a machin which has logic inside
If you understand how it works and you get efficient
exercises to practise it you can learn it very fast.

But to do it you need a succesful method which depends more on
Polish language requirement then on individual expectations of learners.

Polish has an objective structure. If you want to speak Polish you have to get
inside it. Nevermind if you like it or not (-:

Life / Feeling ashamed of my Polish heritage. [237]

I do not know if there is another country in Europe which made bigger progress then Poland in the last 20 years.
Even western observators tart to notice it. Energy of people decides about country's potential not politicians. That is why I am not worry about Poland's future (-:

Have a look what they write about Poland in the Economist. It is not a Polish magazine I guess (-:

economist.com/world/europe/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15394158

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

A bit more about correct speaking native language.
One day I taught Polish to a professor from Department of English of University, Fresno CA. He told me that he could not correct language mistakes of his students because it would be treated as a kind of racism (-: (-: (-:

If so, I admit that speaking good Polish is really a bit more difficult because we are still obliged to keep rules and norms.
But, seriously, I will repeat: Problems with the Polish language reflect just general problems with the Polish identity. Polish is mostly taught wrongly and Polish people do not know how to promote it.

On the other hand, foreigners listen to nasty things about Polish with pleasure because it justifies their - OOPS! - laziness.

It is not surprising for me to see people who start communicating in Polish after two months of learning. But of course it requires a bit of time, energy and money.

If somebody has lived in Poland for years or have a Polish partner/ family,
then he or she prefers to hear that Polish is the hardest language in the world
than: Get grip on yourself, you are just a lazy guy!!! (-:

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Polish is very logical. Of course we have VERY FEW exceptions. But the propotion is like 97:3
Even if you ignore exeptions you can understand almost everything. Until you haven't learnt the rules you think that the order is chaos. If you know a few rules but you do not practise using them you think there are too many rules.

Polish is logical and does not have many exceptions - but I know myths are very often stronger than facts :)

Study / Medicine study - good Polish University for international students; study in English? [38]

They say this is the best medical university in Poland

medschool.cm-uj.krakow.pl

I am not objective because I live in Krakow (city where the school is located) and I taught
Polish to a few foreigners who studied there. For sure university in Krakow is one of the oldest in Europe. But there are othe medical school for foreigners.

Here you can find the list: poland.pl/directory/index,Medical_schools,cid,682.htm

If Polisch people are nice? It depends o a person. I am Polish. Sometimes I am nice sometime rude (-:

If we are racists? It depends. But Krakow is quite international, many people from India work here in IT.
You have to ask other foreigners who live in Poland, perhaps they will help you better.

Language / Spelling / pronunciation of Polish words and phrases [30]

"piękno" not "piękność"

Language / Spelling / pronunciation of Polish words and phrases [30]


"piękność" is just a very old fashion word. It sounds funny. We do not use it in the contemporary Polish


What do you mean?

Work / Learning Polish in Olsztyn... crazy prices for private lessons. [27]

100 PLN per hour is really a lot.

Yes, beelzebub, the best solution is to pay 15 PLN for a Polish lesson and then to say that Polish does not make any sense. I do not know, people, what is the situation in your countries, but in Poland if you want to have good service you have to pay for it. When I wanted to learn German I went to Germany and paid a lot for the course. The same with English. What a strange attitude: to want to get effective teaching for almost nothing. I think this is very often just lack of respect if not lack of reason.

It is NOTHING strange that foreigners start to speak Polish after 2 or 3 months but to achieve it, they have to devote time and invest some money.

Of course you can go to a stadium to start to play rugby even when you do not know the rules. If you are stubborn enough you will FINALLY learn it. But if you find a professional who explains to you how it works, you will do it incomparably better and faster.

Work / Learning Polish in Olsztyn... crazy prices for private lessons. [27]


I do not understand why you assume that a good Polish course is a padantic course.
I did not write that you cannot learn Polish on your own. Of course you can.
You can learn Polish prenounciation 6 months or 2 weeks.


Hm, Polish is not English. POlish has a very logical but abstract grammar system which influences communication very much. You CANNOT avoid it.

But on the other hand if you learnt Polish on your own respect from me and I should be quiet.
I met very few people like this.
But mostly foreigners repeat that Polish is the hardest language and so on and do nothing effective to learn language of their children or wife/husbend. This is pathetic!

But pathetic is also reaction of Poles who really belive that Polish is soooooooooo dificult.

Actually this is a funny situation from my point of view (-:

Work / Learning Polish in Olsztyn... crazy prices for private lessons. [27]

I think the problem is that very oftem people
make an artificial contrary between mechanism and communication.
The next sin is faith that all languages can be taught like English.
But I admit Polish teaching methodology is very poor. But what I can observe now is an escape from a traditional not effective approach to a new overtaken from English methodology. I do not like it. It is not effective in reference to the Polish language I am afraid .

Work / Learning Polish in Olsztyn... crazy prices for private lessons. [27]

If you go to modern Polish school in Krakow at least you will get what you describe. Traditonal teching is dead there. But I do not cooperate anymore with this schools because

I think they present limited approach.
To learn faster you havet get insight to Polish system. But of course to teach cases I do not use names of cases but methapor of genetic code I do not say imperfective and perfective verbs but process verbs and result verbs and so on

Grammar has to be a useful tool. I studied linguistic five years, but now when I teach Polish to over 50 years old women from Rochester NY I have to explain it to her so easy and handy as possible. And I can do it. She understand how cases work without knowing what cases are. And she does not have to know it. This is my job not her. But I have to face the core of the Polish language. It is not to avoid and this is very exciting for me.

BTW communicative approach was invented to teach English and it does not have to work the best allways and everywhere like american model of democracy (-:

Work / Learning Polish in Olsztyn... crazy prices for private lessons. [27]

(-:
Good night I have to get some sleep because in the mornig I will torture a few naive foreigners who think that a Polish tutor can be helpful (-:

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

I apologize for my bad English


what a RUBBISH I regret i cannot use bigger letters.

Give me an everagely intelligent person
and after two weeks, having daily 4x45 minutes
without any additional learninig after our lessons
she or he will be able not only to understand but also to use
and remember the most useful grammar structures.

Polish grammar is a LOGICAL system. If you are able to think
you will notice it soon unless you have either a poor teacher or none teacher
and no linguistic experiance.

I do not teach how to say "5 ears" in Polish. It does not make any sense
it is less useful then consecutio temporum in English (-:

But what make me angry very much it that very many Polish people would confirm what you say Falsk.

But I know, Polish people steal cars i Germany and Polish is impossible to learn. Fuck it guys! This is pure racism.

I have to learn 100s of forms of English verbs I have to understand your tense system, but you are too intelligent to learn Polish. Even when you join a Polish family having Polish wife or husband you "do not need to learn Polish" What a lack of respect.

Have you heard that in Germany divorsed Polish person cannot talk to his/her child in Polish
unless a German partner will give a permission?

Yes I take it a bit personally. But it is a bit tiring to hear all the time that grass is red.
The grass is green an Polish is just a foreign language you can learn.

Thank you to all foreign peopole I met and taught Polish.
I think we did together much to cross brorders of prejudices.

Do not forget:

The limits of our language mean the limits of our world (I wish I had bigger letters to write it.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Ahedas22 is a great example of the western culture impertinence. I am afraid the same way of thinking had people helping worse and not so intelligent brothers in Africa, South /Western America. Try to help us too Ahead22 (-: I know that many foreigners coming to Poland (not all but many) even do not understand that they treat Poland like a postcolonial country. They do respect neither Polish language nor Polish culture at all.

Ahead22, the beauty and normality of English is deep rooted in number of tanks, atom bombs and money English speaking country have. Probably you think that the world is not older than USA but I dare to remind you, that a bit earlier the most powerful languages of the Western world where Greek, Latin (I am sure you realize how many ending this languages have) than French and now English. When China becomes richer and stronger than Western English-speaking world we will start to love Chinese.

You say about the famous simplicity of English. Yes, we writ “read” the same in the past tense but why we pronounce the same word differently, and what about let’s say regularity of Choose chose, pp chosen) ( and what about hundreds of English phrasal verbs , yes and difference between “a” and “the” and your fucked up tense system. On the other hand I will repeat what I usually say: I can teach everybody (average intelligent person without racist prejudices) in between 20-30 teaching hours the most useful Polish grammar rules.

Yes, I can remember, English is natural. Saying about your mother tongue that it is natural you establish your nation as a good. This is pure racism. And I am telling you my sweet dear good fuck you. Take your tanks, money and go home. We had in Poland goods like you over 40 years. You know why? Because you sold us. And not our language is responsible for our slow development but your betrayal. Give us 20 years more, and then we will discuss position of Poland. You can ask also somebody who really knows Poland how much we during last 20 years achieved. Was it slow???????????????

Probably you can buy ticket to each country (I think me too BTW) but the problem is that wherever you go you will see only this what your poor national identity (each national identity is poor Polish too) will you let.

Do not forget it: “The limits of our language mean the limits or our world”. Your world Ahead22 looks very limited to me.

I like to become bigger and bigger my little sweet good. I do not want to be just Polish. That is why I love to teach Polish. You cannot imagine how many foreigners learn Polish with pleasure an success. Intercultural meeting give us opportunity to grow. I wish you such a experience.

Sorry for my rude language but you wrote really stupid thing bro!

MIstrio

Just another racist on the forum.

BTW do you know word resentment. It fits perfectly to many poor Polish language learners.
I repeat it that Polish is fo at least average intelligent person without racist prejudices) (-:


Thank you for best wishes to my company (-:
BTW this is an excellent example to present the level of discussion:
Each year more foreigners learn Polish (my company is a good example too) but
language racists will repeat: nobody wants to learn this strange language.

Resentment:
your weak educational system made you unable to meet and learn foreign cultures and languages. And you have to somehow explain to yourself your weakness. I understand.

I even sympathize but I cannot let you to spoil my market guys.

Poor Mistro, poor Ahead22 grapes are to high so it is better to say that they are sour.
Nobody likes to suffer (-:

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Poor, poor foreigners!
I can only repeat.

I can teach everybody (average intelligent person without racist prejudices) in between 20-30 teaching hours the most useful Polish grammar rules.

Being honest with you. I worked for a few language schools in Krakow Jagiellonian University inclusive and I could not stand it too (-:

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

FUZZYWICKETS You are 100% right
GRUBAS, why do you defend Polish so pathetic way (-:
Polish does not need it!

I am afraid that not only majority of foreigners does not belive that Polish is not to speak,
but also Polish teachers and and naitve speakers. But they are so brave. They defend the case which is (they think) lost. They really like to be a hero (-:

This is really funny from my point of view (-:

P.S
I have pure Polish blood (-:

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Sorry I've made mistake in my last post should be not:


but

... is to speak (-:

Food / What's your favorite Polish coffee? [73]

I am not reach person so I drink Lavazza.
Very good relationship of the price to the quality.
Unfortunately my wife dinks Nescafe – I cannot understand it.
Instant coffee is no coffee! (-:

Language / 'much better' expression in Polish? [8]

Basically “much” as well as “more” mean "dużo/wiele/sporo"
We have no difference between “more” and “much” because the difference countable versus uncountable is not so important in Polish. That is why we say:

Dużo/wiele/sporo wody
Dużo/wiele/sporo ludzi

Two comments
1.When we use “dużo/wiele/sporo” with a noun we express the noun in the Genetive form.
2. countable nouns we use in plural after “dużo” / wiele/sporo” and uncountable in singular.

We can use “dużo” and “sporo” with comparative of adjectives and adverbs forms.
If we use “wiele”in this situation
we have to change it a bit:
Not just “wiele” but “o wiele”

Polish is logical! I like it (-:

Language / 'much better' expression in Polish? [8]

Yes, my mistake, I meant "much" and "many".
Thank you for your correction cinek.
Sorry if I confused anybody.

Language / Polish verbs are confusing/I get many results when I look them up in an online dictionary [54]

Do not perceive grammar as a number of abstract terms.
Grammar should be a kind of manual which tells you how to operate with words.

Learning vocabulary can be confusing and useless.
Knowing just word forms from a dictionary is not enough to produce Polish sentences.
To speak Polish you need to know how the Polish language works. The grammar explains it.

No grammar – no Polish. I got enough people to speak Polish to be sure that this is what the things look like (-:

USA, Canada / Polish language classes in Chicago or surrounding area? [44]

I can help you with your Polish. If you are interested just email me for more details:
polish.language.tutor@gmail

Australia / Looking for Polish lessons in Perth, Australia [32]

Hi, if you are interested in learning Polish email me at polish.language.tutor@gmail
I am a porfessional Polish teacher. However I am not Anna, even not girl.
I hope it does not matter. I hope to talk to you soon.