News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Polish farmers will do well to watch what happens to their British counterparts post EU. Some years ago a Scottish agricultural conglomerate bought up a controlling interest in swathes of Pomeranian dairy land that was being advertised as under-capitalised.

If there was a better investment I'd be surprised. Poles can be fed up as they want with their "loss of sovereignty." Money talks, as Brexit is proving.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Yes - it's actually a very good result for PIS - and shows again that the cities, where the wealth is held, are being held to ransom by the disenfranchised voter in the sprawling Polish countryside.

A lot of those city people would love to live in the countryside - but can't afford it, because they have to be where the work is.

So meanwhile, they have to subsidise those who have a more serene life outside the metropolises. It's high time we cut the Polish East adrift and go for a Citexit. But seriously, all this causes friction between the two different worlds, one of which wants it easy.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Krakow is very interesting. That is a PIS town. Also there was a concerted smear campaign led by PIS against the mayor of Gdansk, so I'm glad to see that they got it slung back in their faces.

Unfortunately this doesn't really change anything in as far as the country is led, and where our tax money is spent.

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]

Traffic. A million views. Not hard to work out why. Their take on classical has undoubtedly stood the test of time.
youtube.com/watch?v=ocjSc7v83pk

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


But Wogan did mockery better than most. You had to be there to witness it. Totally justified, because Wogan, as a music lover, was initially baffled by, and upset by, the lack of professionalism of some "artistes", and the political voting patterns, and then he saw the light.

That eurovison was, and is, in fact, in a (somewhat irritating) way, all brilliant patische.

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


You read that right Miloslaw. Wogan was superb, and we had 10 years of party night in Dougpol Towers with costume dress and different drinks and voting and whistles and blowers - the works.

Miles, miles better than that X factor **** that pretends that anything other than 2 percent of the contestants have any musical charisma.
PS: Polish television has always mistook it for a serious musical event, with the pathetic and tedious viewing experience which follows.

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


No! Never do that. A lot of people used their collections for frisbees and now regret it. You know what prices are now for near mint originals.. Yes, I am getting on a bit, so most of my pals tend to be relatively old too and share the same passion for "music" - most of them go a bit daft for Hi-Fi but I get to dabble a bit in the lower end stuff. You could get a decent enough retro turntable for 500/600 zl, but you have to know what you're doing (as in, you need a decent enough cartridge/needle which might be another 200 zl - this is all second hand of course) but I prefer the sound from 70s solid state vintage Hi-Fi, and older records (the majority of my collection) were pressed to sound good on the equipment of the time.

Any modern record deck/turntable costing below 3,000 zl is not going to pass the "Breakfast in America" test - that's an interesting one - as the original mastering is suspect and only sounds good on certain cartridges (Ortodon Red - a love/hate model - being one affordable option) We all know you can spend 30,000 zl on a turntable, but that's for the Russian PM and his friends...

And the main problem with separates is finding the speakers to match, plus cabling, stands etc.
That's why a lot of people have gone digital, because they have other interests and can't be bothered with all the fascinating variables that analogue music allows. But keep hold of those LPs, and do store them vertically :) :) And clean them if you can - wood glue does the trick:)


That's a good one. She's a singer. There have been some great Eurovision songs over the years, often let down by naff arrangements or poor performers. A great party night for some:)

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


Simples. Befriend a Hi-Fi enthusiast (they are everywhere) and bag some of their stuff. They are always happy to offload as they constantly trade/upgrade.

Get some vintage stuff. Your old records wont sound good on new gear. And remasters wont sound good on vintage gear......... You don't have to pay a lot if you buy cleverly and it's an investment as well. My 1971 Sansui amp has doubled in value in 5 years. Would never sell it though.

"Time to Turn" by the German prog group Eloy rocking the joint on Dougpol Towers turntables at the moment. The neighbours are loving it (I suppose)

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Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


Groundbreakers. And what a voice! Never had any of their albums though. Now where is that bangs head against a brick wall smiley....? Talking Americana, George was America. It's strange how the Band get all the plaudits because of the charisma and infighting between Levon Holm and RR, but Little Feat don't get the same recognition.

Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

Yes Ziemowit, you are correct in your assertion that from a linguistic point of view, the word "murzyn" stands up.
From a 21st century point of view, it doesn't. I appreciate your treatise, because I used to work in academia, although I am pretty thick.

History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]

I fear not jon. Russia does well what the conservatives are doing. Depending on what day of the week it is, what the political flow is, and what the state of the markets are, we get sound bites about " We are not going to negotiate our sovereignty!", or at the opposite end of the diplomatic scale - "We would be looking for an extended transition and a continuation of the single market..."

Russia are masters of this double-speak, and will always thrive - while their citizens outside the big cities stay downtrodden.

Language / I am looking for help to identify a song track which I believe is Polish. [25]

Shazam didn't identify the song?

News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

So you haven't read the Guardian article then? Australia is complaining that their industry only account to 1 percent of global carbon emissions, so are also idiotically committing to coal to 2050 But 1 percent of a hell of a lot is a hell of a lot. There is no logic in saying that the 1 percent doesn't matter.

The report states a theory that we have ten years to do something radical to avoid a tipping point. Our childrens' lives........
Shocking really.

UK, Ireland / Double Taxation coming back between Poland & UK? [6]


No - your FIL will not be taxed twice. If the pension is his UK state pension the Polish government cannot touch that in any shape or form. If he has a private pension from company earnings/trust fund whatever, that is classed as earnings, and yes, they can and will.

News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]

Merged:

Did anyone bother to tell the Polish government......?

...........To conform and stop doing what they're doing - with their insane support for coal and their total indifference to the indefensible domestic burning of coal for heating homes? (mods please merge to existing thread...)

theguardian.com/environment/live/2018/oct/08/ipcc-climate-change-report-urgent-action-fossil-fuels-live

Other countries banned coal fired heating decades ago. When is the EU going to enforce a ban Europe wide? At least this is one thing the UK and the EU agree about, but Poland keeps right on its' merry way, damaging our planet and killing it's own citizens.

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


A better guitarist - maybe...but that's not the point. Less listenability. I used to own 800 Hendrix CDs. Zero Jeff Beck CDs (my bad...)

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


Those guys could start an earthquake - I didn't like their music at the time....the critics said they were rubbish. I shouldn't have believed what I read.

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


One of the takes of "Come On" from the boot of Electric Ladyland. Fierce does not describe it adequately. Maybe Hendrix was getting frustrated and gave it an tad extra shred


No. As in 10 cc "I don't like cricket.........I love it!". If CCR had only recorded SuzyQ, and never played another song, they would have been up there. They had me at "Oh, Suzy Q......" !!

Fogarty is a very naughty boy - but we'll let him off, because of his genius.

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


What a great record. The simplest strumming chord pattern for this song is four chords - all on the second fret. The greatest records are the simplest. Brown Eyed Handsome Girl was another :)


A very avante garde choice there Joker. I am embarrassed to admit I had never heard that (apparently groundbreaking) record until this year :(


Still got mine - all 3000 of them. And the sound from not a few of them beats digital recordings on my low end Sansui any day of the week.

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]

That sounds cracking Atch. I am somewhat perturbed that we will get a strike for going off-topic! :) My school is still standing, but they should have put a _____ under it years ago (not funny in the current climate, but it's a view shared by all who went there at the time.

Now it is a top 50 "academy." My arse:)


Wow!


More wow!

I was 14 - there was more chance of me going to the moon than being allowed to go to any concerts such as that. I missed Hendrix :( :( Mods - get some emoticons:(

Deep Purple when they was great. Mmmmm........
Loved Coverdale/Hughes - when they started off. Did you see Tommy Bolin Miloslaw?And Steve Morse is a nice chap by all accounts - but that's hardly the point.

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


Might seem patronising to you.....Clapton is many things, but he stayed well away from playing Hendrix style licks.He was lauded as a better rhythm player than Hendrix, which admittedly is not difficult, but isn't the same performer. But obviously you haven't been listening, as you don't like him. If you don't like country or soul, then you might mistake it as dreary, but ask a guitarist what they think. If you had said Clapton's album,s were dreary then I might have let it go, but to say Clapton per se is dreary (and copies Hendrix and Dylan) shows musical ignorance . Can't say I care for 90 percent of Claptons' 80/90s albums myself, but there's no real need to put other people off though!

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]

PS: Marty Balin. Sadly today another frontline artist leaves the stage.


The Lees, and Leo L - all from my home town:) I must have come across Alvin Lee, we both lived in the same part of Nottingham. Very "middle-class" it were too :) :) Though we didn't know that of course..... A nondescript 2 up/2 down semi-detached costs 300,000 big ones there now:(

"Watt" was my favourite. They must of had a terrible time putting the bass player Leo Lyons back in the box after each concert. I can't off the top of my head think of a faster bass riffer:)

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


Can't agree at all. What you probably mean is that you don't like his playing style. Name me a better rhythm rock guitarist? Did he copy Hendrix? Nope. Not a Hendrix clone - that would be Trower, SRV etc. Nothing wrong with a Hendrix clone mind :) :) Different musical content; different styles...Clapton with his Hammond organ through-put sound, Hendrix with his Roger Meyer octavia - both brilliant musical innovations, and both at the apex of the tree.

We got to enjoy Clapton for 50 years, Hendrix was cruelly denied us. Both could create myriads of musicality, like Stockhausen or a Bernstein. Golly gumdrops. 60s Clapton and Hendrix are neck and neck as they pass the post and a photo finish is always inclonclusive. I used to think that Hendrix pissed all over Clapton, but in my old age I can't separate them as they are completely different musicians, such as Schubert and Chopin were. You can say that Beethoven and Mozart influenced Schubert, but to draw a line from that and portray Schubert as a schmuck is just lazy.

Clapton - not the life and soul by many an account; an irrelevancy though. He's not a candidate for the American supreme court. A brilliant interpreter of American R and B though.

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


No ****? Now I am seriously impressed......
"I prefer those ladies down south
dem with some meat on their bones..."

What a player he was!

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


Ah... Robert Johnson and Big bill Bronzy and Scott Joplin and for the syncopation - the origins of honky tonk:)


Oh Yes. Peter Green could reduce me to tears. Eric Clapton never had that. Now, Cream, that was a different thing - but the white man blues - that's Peter Green (and Danny Kirwan - two for the price of one! Them being in the same band and all)

Life / Differences between Irish, British, Polish, American and other nations culture, tradition, music - loose talk [239]


Er...you forgot the daddy of them all.
Peter Green.

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]


Don't engage with the chav. If he can't be polite then why encourage him?

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]


PO and the EU were building infrastructure and bringing corporations to Poland Ironside. You weren't here to see it. Silesia was a ******* wasteland beforehand and a great deal of it still is - but that's because the locals think it's one big Skansen :( :( Instead of the truth - which is that it is a post industrial shi. You need strong government to disabuse them.

Now. with PIS, all that work has stopped. Because they are too busy propagating the good old Silesian underclass with their pathetic social bribery - those with their large families, where dad the patriarch will oft beat his children if he catches them studying their schoolbooks under the bedcovers.

You know fek all.
Sorry for the bad language folks but Poles like Ironside make me sick to the stomach.

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

Maf - Dirk is just another example of the lazy way of thinking. Oh good! Is that for me?? What happens when the authorities open the cages in a zoo? A great many of the animals decline to leave.

Poles had 40 years of having their decisions made for them and so a populist Duda has to act Devils' advocate that Poland is that super race that can do it all by itself (or he likes to imagine that it at least has a similar GDP to that of the UK and can actually choose to self-destruct)

Just as in communism, it's all those damn imperialists' fault!

News / Poland's Future in the EU under PIS [51]


Young un-educated Poles who have never left Rawa Mazowiecki and are stuck in some PRL timewarp? Sounds to me that is exactly how people such as you like it. Others carrying the burden, while you don't have to lift a finger for your country.

Tut-tut