Palivec
21 Sep 2011
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]
Wikipedia has a nice article about it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe
Wikipedia has a nice article about it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe
Palivec
23 Sep 2011
History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]
The emperor of the HRE had no real power. He couldn't stop a German state like Prussia from attacking a third country like Poland. And Poland back then was attacked by German states (the order wasn't even part of the HRE), not the HRE itself. So getting a puppet on the throne of the HRE would have made no difference anyway. On the other hand, when one state of the HRE was attacked by an outside force the state and HRE was defended by the Imperial army (30.000-120.000 men) + the army of the state.
That was completely unneccesary, yes Poland should have entered the HRE around 1520-50 and would totally dominate it but marrying into it was unnecesary.
Between 1450 and 1600 Poland has the kind of military, political and financial leverage that it could enter the HRE or simply support an elector and have its own way, that Poland did not dominate Germany at this time is a grave error that cost us our prosperity for the next 300 years.
Between 1450 and 1600 Poland has the kind of military, political and financial leverage that it could enter the HRE or simply support an elector and have its own way, that Poland did not dominate Germany at this time is a grave error that cost us our prosperity for the next 300 years.
The emperor of the HRE had no real power. He couldn't stop a German state like Prussia from attacking a third country like Poland. And Poland back then was attacked by German states (the order wasn't even part of the HRE), not the HRE itself. So getting a puppet on the throne of the HRE would have made no difference anyway. On the other hand, when one state of the HRE was attacked by an outside force the state and HRE was defended by the Imperial army (30.000-120.000 men) + the army of the state.
Palivec
23 Sep 2011
History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]
Interesting that you can't answer without insults...
The emperors of the 12th century can't be compared with emperors of the 16th century since they lost power with every new election. This "Wahlkapitulation" was even institutionalized in the 15th or 16th century. Looks like I read some books.
Poland couldn't enter the HRE "as an elector" since, even with a Polish emperor, Poland would still have been an foreign aggressor. The election of a foreign candidate wouldn't have led to a personal union of the HRE with the country of the foreign candidate. Emperors moreover could get voted out of power if they acted against the empire.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Army_of_the_Holy_Roman_Empire
Maybe you simply shouldn't write about history, lol
Barbarossa for example had plenty, there were many who had, dont try to discuss history with me when you havent picked up a book on your life.
Interesting that you can't answer without insults...
The emperors of the 12th century can't be compared with emperors of the 16th century since they lost power with every new election. This "Wahlkapitulation" was even institutionalized in the 15th or 16th century. Looks like I read some books.
IF Poland entered the HRE as an elector there wouldnt be Prussia to speak off, expading westwards meant eventuall annexation of Brandenburg and Teutonic States.
Poland couldn't enter the HRE "as an elector" since, even with a Polish emperor, Poland would still have been an foreign aggressor. The election of a foreign candidate wouldn't have led to a personal union of the HRE with the country of the foreign candidate. Emperors moreover could get voted out of power if they acted against the empire.
The grand total mobilisation capacity of HRE was around 120.000 men so you're inflating it, also no the HRE did not have an "imperial army" the imperial army was the army of the state from which the emperor hailed which is why it was for a long time Austria, the most powerfull of the german states.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Army_of_the_Holy_Roman_Empire
Maybe you simply shouldn't write about history, lol
Palivec
24 Sep 2011
History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]
This is a completely different matter. Sorry to say this, but you don't understand the character of the HRE. The Habsburgs as Austrian dukes were powerful, the Habsburgs as emperors were not, since the power of the emperor was gradually reduced, while the states became more powerful.
Do you actually know what "elector" means when it comes to the HRE?
They also voted out the most powerful king of the HRE, so...
You can use the books used there...
So you mean Austrian Emperors had no power at all being the most powerfull german state?:)))
This is a completely different matter. Sorry to say this, but you don't understand the character of the HRE. The Habsburgs as Austrian dukes were powerful, the Habsburgs as emperors were not, since the power of the emperor was gradually reduced, while the states became more powerful.
But it could enter via Duchy of Courland, Duchy of Brandenburg, Lithuanian Radziwil Branch who were already electors, and it did several times, back to the books for you.
Do you actually know what "elector" means when it comes to the HRE?
I'd love to see german states vote out an Emperor who had the polish army and the polish coffers behind him.
They also voted out the most powerful king of the HRE, so...
I'm sorry i dont use wiki nor do i use it as a source
You can use the books used there...
Palivec
29 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
Replaced stone walls with brick walls? Sounds more like he destroyed it?! (which wouldn't make any difference though, the villages of the Sudete mountains are mostly lost anyway. It's a sad sight today.)
Replaced stone walls with brick walls? Sounds more like he destroyed it?! (which wouldn't make any difference though, the villages of the Sudete mountains are mostly lost anyway. It's a sad sight today.)
Palivec
29 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
A village where only 3 of 60 houses survived? I highly doubt it.
No, I just often traveled there job-related (monument protection), and the lack of preserved rural architecture is absolutely shocking.
A village where only 3 of 60 houses survived? I highly doubt it.
No, I just often traveled there job-related (monument protection), and the lack of preserved rural architecture is absolutely shocking.
Palivec
29 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
Did the climate change when Silesia passed to Poland? On the Czech side of the mountains and further west in Germany people have no problems with it... such houses are actually listed buildings there and cannot be rebuild that easily. But well, the monument protection service in Poland is a joke anyway when it comes to cases like this.
living in a stone-masonry house in Poland isn't the thing you would wish for in winter Palivec
Did the climate change when Silesia passed to Poland? On the Czech side of the mountains and further west in Germany people have no problems with it... such houses are actually listed buildings there and cannot be rebuild that easily. But well, the monument protection service in Poland is a joke anyway when it comes to cases like this.
Palivec
29 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
And castles and palaces, parks, cemeteries, churches, entire town centers, libraries...
No, I'm shocked by the general state of the cultural heritage in the former German regions of Poland, which I know pretty well since I work in a agency which develops transboundary projects in several EU countries to promote a closer cooperation between institutions and people. It's simply my job.
And castles and palaces, parks, cemeteries, churches, entire town centers, libraries...
No, I'm shocked by the general state of the cultural heritage in the former German regions of Poland, which I know pretty well since I work in a agency which develops transboundary projects in several EU countries to promote a closer cooperation between institutions and people. It's simply my job.
Palivec
29 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
The answer here, in case the house is listed, is interior thermal insulation.
How many destroyed churches I have seen? I would guess quite a lot, since Silesian villages usually had two and not just one.
Destroyed library? Schaffgotsch library for instance. Removed from Jelenia Gora, some parts in Wroclaw, some in Warsaw.
Castles and palaces not destroyed but neglected.... where is the difference when the castle is a ruin and no one cares? Gone is gone. In Western Silesia 40%.
why do you think Poles never bothered themselves with building stone houses (the technology of brick burning was not the cheapest one and very simple) - wooden houses offer much better heat insulation
The answer here, in case the house is listed, is interior thermal insulation.
destroyed castles, palaces? which castles and palaces - or did you mean neglected? - well you know communists didn't need palaces
How many destroyed churches I have seen? I would guess quite a lot, since Silesian villages usually had two and not just one.
Destroyed library? Schaffgotsch library for instance. Removed from Jelenia Gora, some parts in Wroclaw, some in Warsaw.
Castles and palaces not destroyed but neglected.... where is the difference when the castle is a ruin and no one cares? Gone is gone. In Western Silesia 40%.
Palivec
29 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
No, but as i said I work on transboundary projects, and one project is to develop contacts in the border triangle GER/PL/CZ. In one study the state of the castles and manors in Upper Lusatia, the eastern part is now part of Poland, was examined. Result: 40% in Poland are in such a bad condition that they cannot be saved, 70% of all are in a bad state, but can be saved. Result in Germany: 10/20. No results for Northern Bohemia though (not part of *this* study), but my feeling is something like 10/30.
Maybe you are too young? This is a nice page to find out:
wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/
Another study compared the state of the rural architecture in this border triangle. They have some very distinctive houses there, a mix of German half-timbered houses and Slavic blockhouses. These houses can be found in all three countries there. In Germany are 6.472 houses, 95% of them are listed. In Czechia are ~12.000, the majority is listed, but the monument protection service didn't know the exact number. In Poland are ~1.000 houses, most of them aren't listed. The monument protection service had no clue about these houses.... to put it mild.
What I want to say: the monument protection service can only be as strong as the will of the society to save the cultural heritage is. And this will differs considerably between people who always lived there and people without roots in the region. The majority of the old rural houses in Silesia aren't listed (don't know the Situation in Inner Poland), and even when they are listed the monument protection service has no power to influence the owners.
are you sure it's exactly Polish culture to blame and not the communism?? - ever heard of the fate of palaces in central Poland?
No, but as i said I work on transboundary projects, and one project is to develop contacts in the border triangle GER/PL/CZ. In one study the state of the castles and manors in Upper Lusatia, the eastern part is now part of Poland, was examined. Result: 40% in Poland are in such a bad condition that they cannot be saved, 70% of all are in a bad state, but can be saved. Result in Germany: 10/20. No results for Northern Bohemia though (not part of *this* study), but my feeling is something like 10/30.
two churches per village - nah - not in the areas i'm familiar with (in towns yes - and yes some protestant churches have fallen into disuse and neglect (and actual ruin) - I know one example)
Maybe you are too young? This is a nice page to find out:
wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/
you don't list half ruins of simple country houses - is it difficult to grasp?
Another study compared the state of the rural architecture in this border triangle. They have some very distinctive houses there, a mix of German half-timbered houses and Slavic blockhouses. These houses can be found in all three countries there. In Germany are 6.472 houses, 95% of them are listed. In Czechia are ~12.000, the majority is listed, but the monument protection service didn't know the exact number. In Poland are ~1.000 houses, most of them aren't listed. The monument protection service had no clue about these houses.... to put it mild.
What I want to say: the monument protection service can only be as strong as the will of the society to save the cultural heritage is. And this will differs considerably between people who always lived there and people without roots in the region. The majority of the old rural houses in Silesia aren't listed (don't know the Situation in Inner Poland), and even when they are listed the monument protection service has no power to influence the owners.
Palivec
30 Sep 2011
History / Resettlement after ww2 (old German houses and buildings still in Poland) [28]
Such houses are sometimes listed, sometimes not. The situation is absolutely chaotic. And even listed houses often get sold to the first investor. They don't have to present a concept for the building, they just have to bring the money. In many cases these investors destroy these buildings during restoration, and the monument protection service has no means to stop them.
Such houses are sometimes listed, sometimes not. The situation is absolutely chaotic. And even listed houses often get sold to the first investor. They don't have to present a concept for the building, they just have to bring the money. In many cases these investors destroy these buildings during restoration, and the monument protection service has no means to stop them.
Palivec
5 Oct 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]
He presented his new book this week. According to him Merkel wants Germany to be a superpower that plans to subdue Poland. This imperial Germany wants to get the former German territorries of Poland back. That's why he doesn't welcome investments by German companies in Western Poland. And Merkel was installed by the Stasi (former secret service of Commie Germany).
LOL! :D
He presented his new book this week. According to him Merkel wants Germany to be a superpower that plans to subdue Poland. This imperial Germany wants to get the former German territorries of Poland back. That's why he doesn't welcome investments by German companies in Western Poland. And Merkel was installed by the Stasi (former secret service of Commie Germany).
LOL! :D
Palivec
5 Oct 2011
News / Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!? [199]
Speaking of sugar... sugar is also very expensive in Poland, that's why Poles flooded supermarkets in Germany and bought so much that the supermarkets began to ration sugar. Apparently a kg costs between 1,25 and 1,70€ in Poland, but only 0,65€ in Germany.
Speaking of sugar... sugar is also very expensive in Poland, that's why Poles flooded supermarkets in Germany and bought so much that the supermarkets began to ration sugar. Apparently a kg costs between 1,25 and 1,70€ in Poland, but only 0,65€ in Germany.
Palivec
6 Oct 2011
Life / Are Polish people so chaotic and disorganized like Germans say? [89]
Yup. If you travel around Central Europe it looks like this:
Switzerland - Germany - Austria - Hungary/Czechia - Poland
I've been to both countries and Germany definitely looks more organized.
Yup. If you travel around Central Europe it looks like this:
Switzerland - Germany - Austria - Hungary/Czechia - Poland
Palivec
9 Oct 2011
News / Tusk wants to privatize PKP Cargo. [38]
And Kaczynski doesn't want investments of Europes biggest economy in 1/3 of Poland. Idiot.
And Kaczynski doesn't want investments of Europes biggest economy in 1/3 of Poland. Idiot.
Palivec
9 Oct 2011
Travel / Where would Poles (from Poland and abroad) migrate in case of rapid coming of new Ice age? [27]
Serbia?
They should come to a place full of beaches hot women and booze.
Serbia?
Palivec
9 Oct 2011
Life / Can many young Poles speak German? [72]
Upper Silesian from Nysa: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld202k.mp3
But OK, that's just the German dialect of a native German.
East Prussian from Lidzbark Warmiński: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld083.mp3
And West Prussian from Elbląg: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld283k.mp3
I don't believe I've ever met or spoken with a native Silesian speaking German or even their native tongue. Same goes fore Cashubs or Sorbs.
Upper Silesian from Nysa: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld202k.mp3
But OK, that's just the German dialect of a native German.
I once talked with a very old gentleman, oh, I'd guess round about 85, or so, from the former Koenigsberg, East Prussia (now Kaliningrad!). When he spoke German, his accent reminded me immediately of a Pole speaking;
East Prussian from Lidzbark Warmiński: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld083.mp3
And West Prussian from Elbląg: staff.uni-marburg.de/~naeser/ld283k.mp3
Palivec
10 Oct 2011
Palivec
10 Oct 2011
USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]
Nicely illustrates how out of touch with Polish reality the American Polonia is.
Nicely illustrates how out of touch with Polish reality the American Polonia is.
Palivec
10 Oct 2011
USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]
You summed it up perfectly. Americans have no clue about the EU and modern Europe. When Europeans talk about integration and collaboration all Americans understand is losing sovereignty. The concept of the EU is simply to much for a nation (=USofA) where 70% of the inhabitants don't own a passport and never crossed a border.
The benefit of distance gives US Poloninas a better overview of what it's all about. And selling off Poland's last remaining assets to foreign interests, which the Tusk gang is so keen on, is not a good career move for Poland.
You summed it up perfectly. Americans have no clue about the EU and modern Europe. When Europeans talk about integration and collaboration all Americans understand is losing sovereignty. The concept of the EU is simply to much for a nation (=USofA) where 70% of the inhabitants don't own a passport and never crossed a border.
Palivec
11 Oct 2011
Life / Are Polish people so chaotic and disorganized like Germans say? [89]
Ever met one? Ever been to Germany? Europe? Outside of the USofA?
Never belive anything a German said, they hate the Polish, and will forever.
Ever met one? Ever been to Germany? Europe? Outside of the USofA?
Palivec
11 Oct 2011
News / Will you be proud of tranny (transsexual) representing Poland ? [124]
And how many would accept... ahhm, her... if she would look like this?
600full-kalena-rios.jpg
SCNR ;)
And how many would accept... ahhm, her... if she would look like this?
600full-kalena-rios.jpg
SCNR ;)
Palivec
11 Oct 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]
Lets try a different map...
I still see German Poland and Russian Poland, lol...
Palivec - we can't even talk about Polska A an B anymore! Poland is firmly behind PO - that much is obvious.
Lets try a different map...
I still see German Poland and Russian Poland, lol...
Palivec
13 Oct 2011
History / Why have Poles contributed so little to Academics? (Particularly Science) [180]
Poland was less urbanized (don't know the exact numbers, but the eastern part was 27% vs. 44% for Eastern Germany). Poland was also controlled by foreign powers (which didn't invest in education for Poles) during the 19th and early 20th century, when science literally exploded. That's why most educational institutions in Poland were founded only after 1918, and soon after Poland became part of the Soviet block, which wasn't interested in high education for the masses.
What's the reason for this?
Poland was less urbanized (don't know the exact numbers, but the eastern part was 27% vs. 44% for Eastern Germany). Poland was also controlled by foreign powers (which didn't invest in education for Poles) during the 19th and early 20th century, when science literally exploded. That's why most educational institutions in Poland were founded only after 1918, and soon after Poland became part of the Soviet block, which wasn't interested in high education for the masses.
Palivec
13 Oct 2011
News / Palikot or the Poles getting rid of the Polish society old Taboos in 2011? [30]
And Italy. A nation which accepts a prime minister who bangs a different prostitute each night must be tolerant... ;)
And Italy. A nation which accepts a prime minister who bangs a different prostitute each night must be tolerant... ;)
Palivec
18 Oct 2011
History / Why have Poles contributed so little to Academics? (Particularly Science) [180]
Oh wow, lol.
And to answer your question: Unites States, France, Germany, AFAIK.
To further strenghten your argument you could count how many elements were discovered by Poles. :D
Poland has an element named after it in the periodic table. Tell me, how many other countries have something like that?
Oh wow, lol.
And to answer your question: Unites States, France, Germany, AFAIK.
To further strenghten your argument you could count how many elements were discovered by Poles. :D
Palivec
18 Oct 2011
History / Why is Vatican traditionally on German and not on Polish side? [65]
I'm not sure, but I hope Serbia is the solution for Polands problem...
once more
Why is Vatican traditionally on German and not on Polish side? i mean, when it comes to strategic interests
Why is Vatican traditionally on German and not on Polish side? i mean, when it comes to strategic interests
I'm not sure, but I hope Serbia is the solution for Polands problem...
Palivec
22 Oct 2011
History / Why have Poles contributed so little to Academics? (Particularly Science) [180]
Evil Jews I think.
Evil Jews I think.
Palivec
31 Oct 2011
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]
As someone who calls himself an expert you should know that the 10.000 people are propaganda, like the propaganda of the Order who said they killed 16 people. And no, they didn't turn against the Order because of a bunch of killed council men but because the Order raised taxes and because of inner struggles.
So, ethnicity in the modern sense didn't exist, cultural identities only to some extent, yet the order represented "German nationalism". Ahhm, what?
Don't forget the Teutonic Knights killed 10,000 people in Danzig in 1308, and killed most of the City Council in 1412. This is why the towns turned against the Order.
As someone who calls himself an expert you should know that the 10.000 people are propaganda, like the propaganda of the Order who said they killed 16 people. And no, they didn't turn against the Order because of a bunch of killed council men but because the Order raised taxes and because of inner struggles.
Ethnicity was not the same concept in the 15th and 16th Century as it is today. Poland and German were languague groups, cultural identities to some extent.
I think it is unfortunate however to deny the historical reality that many Germans elected to join Poland voluntarily and rejected the aggressive type of German nationalism represented by the Teutonic Knights
So, ethnicity in the modern sense didn't exist, cultural identities only to some extent, yet the order represented "German nationalism". Ahhm, what?
Palivec
1 Nov 2011
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]
And? They never met him, they only knew his works, which were written in Latin. And he was from Poland, so he was a Pole for them.
So even Copernicus' enemies knew he was Polish.
And? They never met him, they only knew his works, which were written in Latin. And he was from Poland, so he was a Pole for them.