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From: Lviv, Ukraine/Toronto, Canada
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Nathan   
16 Jul 2010
History / Chances of Moscow becoming part of Poland again? [102]

Well, Poles owned Russians twice, I mean Russian capital and surrounding territories. So what stands in the way of organizing little union of countries with new "Drang nach Ural" foreign policy? Population increases and the lands get scarce. Since 6,650,000,000 people live on 8/9th of the land and 150,000,000 in Russian federation live on 1/9th of the available land (more than 1 : 5.5 inverse density ratio), wouldn't even understandable will to get the territories back be more appropriate to realize. Does these lands have to be totally over-run by Asian countries or we may do something to these waste lands?
Nathan   
9 Jul 2010
Life / Languages understandable by Poles? [38]

Dont say szukac to a Czech :D

Or "ruchać" to a Pole ;) I have some Ukrainian friends who went for a vacation to Poland. Well, they met some nice chicks. The girls showed them around the town and in the evening they went to a club. After, it was around 1 am, they asked the girls whether they don't mind a company on the way home. So when one of the girls opened the house, her father was standing at the door, angry like hell. He started to yell at the guys (thinking the worst about my polite and decent friends) and they answered: "Ми її не рухали" ("We didn't touch her"), but in Polish "My ją nie ruchali", which sounds the same as Ukrainian phrase, means "We didn't f*ck her". Well, this was the last drop in this poor Polish father's heart. He yelled: "Oh, to wy jeszcze ją ruchać chcieli" ("Oh, so you wanted to f*ck her too") and chased the guys out with a stick. One of them said they barely escaped alive ;)

In general Polish and Ukrainians understand each other, especially people from the border region. Some expressions though can be life-threatening ;)
Nathan   
6 Jul 2010
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

Дякую (thanks)!

Nie ma za co, Polonius3. Glad to be of help.

How would the surname be in Ukrainian - Perehins'kiy?

Yes, this is correct. It depends on which of the 2 words it might have come from:
- in the first case, it would be "Perehinskyj" ("-ий" has to be transliterated as "-yj" in Polish, in my opinion, because Polish "i" sounds exactly like Ukrainian "i", but Ukr. "и" like Pol. "y" and in last names it is always "-ий")

- in the second case - "Perehynskyj"

Does it mean anything as a nikcname (someone inclined towards exaggeration or maybe it originated as a toponymci nick from some place-name).

It is an old last name and as you mentioned "przeginać" and its Ukrainian counterpart "перегинати" is something that recently went into use. So I think your second version is more appropriate: maybe, a person living on the edge of a road's bend, which was somehow significant at that location or marked the end of the settlement. Or someone living behind a hill or a small mountain "за перегином" (behind the hill/mountain's bend). It might have also meant physical strength and ability to bend something hard.

"Perehybajlo", "Perehyba", "Perehybenko", which you would definitely find among Ukrainians, would more readily be used as nicknames (if ever), instead of "Perehynskyj". But this is strictly my personal opinion, unsupported by anything, but my own experience.
Nathan   
6 Jul 2010
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

like Perhynśkij

It might have come from Ukrainian "Перегін" (Pol. "Perehin"):
1) Відстань між двома залізничними станціями, зупинками. Частина залізничної колії.
(The distance between two railway stations. Part of a railway road.)
2) Швидкий рух. Дія.
(Quick movement. Action. Taking over somebody/thing by moving faster)
3) Продукт перегонки.
(The product of distillation process - since it is an old name, it might usually have meant alcohol)
4) Секція мосту (від опори до опори).
(Section of a bridge between two supporting points.)
or
"Перегин" - when something is bent too much than it is supposed too or a rule or way of conduct is twisted in a way that transpasses all acceptable norms. It can also mean a location of rough turn or bend.
Nathan   
28 Jun 2010
Life / SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH SOCIETY [297]

The above shows your great, encompassing tolerance for other's people choices and decisions. All the other people simply passed her by, thereby showing their neutrality and tolerance, whilst you simply had to prove your point.

Good point. And who in hell dares to chase women, especially sunbathing, but pervs from some jungles? Anti-sunbathing-women freaks should be imprisoned and deported immediately, no questions ask. They are danger to the environment and its beauty. These people should live on Mars and wear astronaut suits all day long. Freaks.
Nathan   
23 Jun 2010
News / Topless sunbathers acquitted in Szczecin, Poland [128]

I would vote for that anyway, but only if it would be cup-size C or up :)))

Oh come one, pickety-pick!!! I wouldn't mind any cups from A to Z and backwards :)

it should be banned in center of city or in place wchich is attended mostly by children

Children above all don't see boobs as perverts with beards, mustaches, or walking sticks do. We imagined that seeing what a child saw for a while day and night after birth and was happy about as something that will damage him/her psychologically. Any of us could have spent more time studying instead of looking for pûrn (where this came from? - I saw no boobs on the beaches when I was little), if we had a healthy opportunity to see some Stanley cups roaming in the natural environment when we played in sand naked ourselves :)
Nathan   
22 Jun 2010
Life / 3 reasons why you hate Poland. [1049]

1. Extreme Homophobia (that guy is wearing a pink shirt! he must be gay!)

Hm. I still asking myself, WHY people should LOVE someone just because he poking a wrong hole? ;)

Where do you see holes in a pink shirt? Or why it should bother you what holes he has or "pokes"? Nobody is interested in your brain and its holes and the way you poke it with dumb, limited thoughts of this kind. Just learn to let people be the way they are and feel. Do you LOVE your sister just because your brother-in-law pokes the right hole? Do you really know what holes they poke?

some reasonable level of homofobia is a healthy thing from evolutionary point of view

So if it happened to be the wrong one, you would experience a homoFobic feeling to your sister, because you are concerned that 6.8 billion people might go extinct?
Nathan   
20 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

What I like about Slavs are Slavic blond, blue eyed girls with their high cheek bones and not their communism spoiled characters .
Amen.

Borrka, I am 100% with you on that. Me too: I love blue eyes and high chest bones :)
I hate communism with all my heart, because it is against human nature and so Polish as Ukrainian traditions. Communism was thrown at us through lazy eastern neighbors who hate work and who can exist only out of sucking juices from other nations.

I'm all an ignorant Slavic post-commie bastard lol.

Borrya, so am I. But about ignorance you are wrong. You are far far from it.

The only thing I disagree with you is the way you look at history of that particular period. If Polish cooperated with Ukrainians instead of trying to force-feed them with foreign language and religion, both nations would be a major force in Europe. We participated in many battles together against Turks and Russians and most of them ended with great success in our favour. So there was nothing wrong with the side to deal with, but with attitudes and ignorant policies. I am not saying that westward direction was bad, completely opposite, but eastwise there wasn't enough wisdom.
Nathan   
6 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

Dear friend the problem is that I know your country.
And maybe better than you do.

I doubt it, but let it be. What is the disaster about my country? It goes through rough times, so?

And even if I don't drive a luxury car how does it change the economic ranking and political creditability of Ukraine ?

What economic ranking and political credibility of Ukraine has to do with the topic?

Maybe I am, maybe not - you are definitely not in position to judge it.
But enlighten me pls how my personal situation refers to the main topic of this thread ?

Borrka, where do I judge you? You have your opinion and I respect it. All I said was explaining the way I understand your words: you pretend to having had some alliance and somehow bad influence of Lits and Uks on Polish mentality, which prevents you from driving Ferrari. These two points I disagree. Nothing against your personal desires. Simply I view them as an excuse often used by weak individuals.

Any discussion with you is absolutely counterproductive - as a hatred driven person you are only repeating your favorite ahistoric mantras

Borrka, I love you and all PF members equally. Even Sasha, with whom I might sometimes use rough language, is one of my favorite people. No hatred whatsoever. There was some childish fervency, which slowly disappears.

You said:

Siding with Germans (Teutonic Order) against pagan Lithuanian and Orthodox Russins would have been by far more profitable than any aliance with Lithuanians, Ukrainians or Belorussia (whatever it meant 600 years ago).

Is this an ahistoric mantra you are talking about? There was Polish eastward directed expansionism, no alliances with Ukrainians or Bielorusins. There are multitude of claims (joking or not) about bringing culture and intelligence to wild Ukis running in the forests. Now you bemoan Polish fate in an offensive (at least I felt it) way

enormous impact on Polish mentality, our way of thinking and acting - it's why Poles are more like Ukrainians and not like Germans or Czechs.

Why didn't you expand westward? Were scared or something? If so, then why mention Ukrainians at all. Say simply:"I, Borrka, want to be a German and my people be German-like". That's nice and I have nothing against it. But to put it the way you did is wrong in my opinion.
Nathan   
5 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

However ... I definitely prefer German life standards, reasonable politicians, good highways, luxury cars to our Polish life of misery and Ukrainian disaster.

Maybe 20 years since we regained independance is a long period of time, but it is not a bit a disaster. Polish life of misery? Do you want so bad to drive a luxury car? You are just saying that you are a pathetic loser incapable of making your own life better. You hope that somebody else will do it for you. There wasn't a wall on the border with Germany and somehow the inflow of beautiful existance which you dream of never crossed the river. Maybe, there is some other reason for that.

Both Lithuanins and Ukrainians owe Polish Commonwealth their national existence.
Without it there would be no Lithuanians at all today and the population of Ukraine[
would be a part of the happy Orthodox family under Moscow's rule.
Take it for granted.

We don't owe you anything. If not your retarded expansionist policies, there wouldn't be any Russia nowodays. You could have dealt with Swedes and Germans, while we could fight Russians and Turks. But no! Your hungry mugs hadn't enough. You had to backstab and split the country. Why didn't you send your people to study in Germany, to change their mentality, which they (you claim) got infected with from Lithuanians and Ukrainians?

And take it for granted? ;) Your major national flaw is haughtiness and arrogance and no German will ever cure it. But definately try.
Nathan   
4 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Didn't you hear the news Nathan? Germany is accused for not importing to much, not spending to much, for saving to much, for exporting to much and hence being the main blame for the european crisis!

I don't watch much, but if somebody says it that is outright wrong. Germany is the engine of Europe and I personally respect anyone or anything that reached heights by fair game like Germany did. Not pump what is given by nature, but produce wealth on its own.

Just a dream...other than that Poland suddenly finds huge oil resources on it's soil it will be always dependent on other countries for it's energy (like Germany).

I said it wrong. I meant "dependant ONLY" on those sources.

Now as Germany hesitated in the case of Greece you see how "peaceful" Europe became!

Yeh. This is what I am trying to say: diversify and be able to stand on your legs without mother's tit.
Nathan   
4 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

"no longer sell at 1/3 of market price",

It transports through our territory and pays the fee which was agreed upon at 20% discount for gas price. Don't think Russians are as stupid to sell gas for 1/3 of a price. There are other inter-governmental agreement, which seemed to work till right after the Orange revolution. Again this issue is murky waters as I don't believe any politician whoever side he represents.

sue us!

Why? All I am saying Poland should not be dependant neither on Russian, nor on German supplies. Who pays - orders the music. And it is Ok. You have a powerful economy

The EU is Germany....for decades Germany build and paid the EU....call it war guilt

I can understand your self-sacrifice:

But initially the Germans will have to dig deeper into their pockets for the expansion. The European Commission has demanded more money for it, more than €37 billion will be pumped into the new countries in the coming years. How can you make that appealing to the taxpayer?
The financing for this expansion round was already decided in Berlin in 1999. We are spending around €15 billion less than was then calculated and will get by with a total of €40 billion until 2006. The new countries will pay €15 billion of that themselves. All in all, the expansion will cost Germany a net total of €2.5 billion in the first three years. On the other hand, Germany will have an enormous trade balance surplus. That's why viewed economically it's a win-win situation. It makes no sense to say that the expansion will lead to an additional burden for the Germans

Germany does what is essential for its security, nobody's else. And this is fine. I once argued about that, but not anymore. Again I am suggesting for Poland to keep diversified and not rely on its neighbors.
Nathan   
4 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

any aliance with Lithuanians, Ukrainians or Belorussia (whatever it meant 600 years ago).

Where was there any alliance you mentioned, Borrka? It was outright conquest of foreign lands. Even as you called "pagan" Lithuanians who donated their king to the Union became step by step politically dependant and lost their identity to the oligarchy of RP. There was never any alliance as such.

enormous impact on Polish mentality, our way of thinking and acting - it's why Poles are more like Ukrainians and not like Germans or Czechs.

Russia borders Japan...;)
Besides what don't you like about your mentality? And how are Ukrainians worse than Czechs or Germans? As we say: To a bad dancer balls are a hindrance.

Don't search excuses for the way you are or think on a national mentality.
Nathan   
4 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Well, let's say there is some tight cooperation between certain part of EU and Russia. Both are dependant on each other: one is a natural resource supplier and the others are manufacturing giants who need them. Besides their interests in business, they are politically active and interested in increasing their influence over other countries. Deals are being made in selling warships to Russia, which present direct threat to Baltic and Black sea countries. Gas policy which is intended to be able to economically pressure every country in-between: Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland (EU countries) as well as Ukraine, Belorus' and Moldova. Does Western Europe seem any concerned about its EU partners territorial or economical security? Not a bit. But as soon as there are some issues that may interfere with their money flow, they are ready to trample any sign of discord with their own policies.

Following several cuts to supplies to Ukraine, and further on to Europe on 1 January 2006 and 1 January 2009, as well as foreign policy towards Eastern Europe, it has been noted that the distribution of gas can be used as a political tool from the Russian state through Gazprom, which it owns.

Some transit countries are concerned that a long-term plan of the Kremlin is to attempt to exert political influence on them by threatening their gas supply without affecting supplies to Western Europe

In the report published by the Fridtjof Nansen Institute, Bendik Solum Whist notes that Nord Stream AG was incorporated in Switzerland, "whose strict banking secrecy laws makes the project less transparent than it would have been if based within the EU

In April 2006 Radosław Sikorski, then Poland's defence minister, currently the foreign minister, compared the project to the infamous 1939 Nazi-Soviet Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact

Strangely enough, it bypasses Poland even though some claim there is a blooming friendship between neighbors. When time is right a gas tool will be used against Poland by Germany. No need for military clashes, when you have such a weapon. There seems to be no concern whatsoever in Berlin (why should there be? everyone should think of his own skin, right?) and parity claimed by EU has different colors. When there is necessity to bring some changes to the EU constitution, Germany seems to be disrespectful and threatful to the will of the countries who are equal partners in EU (at least I thought so). I am not here to bash EU. I don't know much to argue cons and contras. But the way everything develops seems to be directed to take away voice out of many in order to leave decisions and pressures in hands of a few.
Nathan   
4 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

I think I can safely say there is no fear of a new military clash of Germans and Russians (in Poland nor elsewhere).

Well, no one can be sure of anything. But the world now seems changing from clashes between countries to cooperation in thwarting bridges in a goal to continue hegemony (and I am not talking of a gas-line). There are new ways to bring someone down Munich style, where there is no cultural, political or ideologic boundaries to those who can participate as long as it satisfies a few in exchange of destroying others. Money ran, run and will run the world - no surprise here - and one is for oneself. What I consider important for any country is not to sell its soul (spirit of democracy and its values) while making a deal. For that one must be independant in decisions and diversified. This is what I suggest and wish for Poland. Cause at the end of the day rats will leave the ship first.
Nathan   
4 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

being a bridge is a great position to be in actually!

It isn't bad if the bridge is between two civilized worlds. Otherwise, it will be used by marching soldiers and blown up during retreats.
Nathan   
3 Apr 2010
Genealogy / Auberzinski family name [18]

Yea, I have been working on finding the documentation on the family name.

Try to check out with French lastnames "Auberge" or "Aubergine". Maybe, some of your ancestors emmigrated from France to Poland and slightly changed their name. Or if there is some pronounced French community in Poland, they might have additional info on that.
Nathan   
3 Apr 2010
Travel / Your best memory after visiting Poland [41]

we crossed a woman with her hasbend she has about 50 years old,,she looked very bad to me and to my polish friends with some movements with her lips and her eyes

Was she an alien?

i think now i will not go anymore there

Good idea. Sometimes, they take you away.

in case you're wondering what my odd mix looks like! This is me

I was wondering and wow, you are very sexy and enormously attractive :)

For some reason when I think about Poland long shaped legs come to my mind

Yummy, nothing to add.
Nathan   
31 Mar 2010
Food / Bratwurst in Kraków? [15]

I ... was re-introduced to a wonderful taste sensation - bratwurst!

Heh:)

BB, you haven't won any Oscars recently, have you? ;)
Nathan   
31 Mar 2010
History / Piłsudski, like Hitler and Stalin (according to some Lithuanians) [144]

there were serious allegations of genocide by Georgian troops

By whom? Russian passports?

Russia Today

Why don`t you check out Georgian newspapers? To get a more broad view on the war.

There were claims of harsh treatment by Georgians and that isn't acceptable

By whom? If tomorrow they write that Ukrainians ``treat harshly`` Russians, you would also read only Moscow Today and base your opinion on that?
Nathan   
31 Mar 2010
History / Piłsudski, like Hitler and Stalin (according to some Lithuanians) [144]

South Ossetia is FSB-ruled mafia state similar to Transnistria with smuggling as main industry.
Invented to destabilize Georgia and to eliminate its prospects for NATO membership.

Great point, marqoz. This is exactly what they are trying to do all along, in different countries: to destabilize and destroy. They invest huge money into media, which spreads the lies to cover what they did in Chechnia and Georgia. Russian journalist Anna Politkowska was murdered for shedding the light on Chechnia war as did Alex Litwinenko who clearly showed what is done to perpetuate this cycle of aggression.
Nathan   
31 Mar 2010
History / Piłsudski, like Hitler and Stalin (according to some Lithuanians) [144]

Russia stepped in and sorted it out, they were manly and got the job done.

Yes, they are and they are part of Georgia. And they can be filled with Russian passports, who cares? This is Georgia. Point. And Russia for you was manly enough to invade an independant country. Well, I hope Islam followers explain their position on that issue in more lay terms, because too many `intelligent` approaches are made in regard to human rights by fat asses in secure Europe.

Regarding your BBC video, as you might notice it has big `RT` letters on the side, which means `Russian Television`. And if you base your opinion on the news delivered by an agressive part only, well, here you go. Good luck.