News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Those who wish to avoid brain tumours!

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Facts are facts regarldess what any wimpy whingers think about it.
The latest CBOS survey found President Duda to be the only Polish politican trusted by an absolute majority of Poles (55%). Kukiz is in 2nd place (44%) and Szydło in 3rd (43).

Smart-alecky, badmouthing Delph has again shown hismelf to be out of sync with what real Poles believe.

News / Poland's PiS party members and crime [346]


By comparison the PO is Poland's crime party and they've had 8 years to prove it. A draught hrose is a strong animal but not when compared to an elephant!

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]


No, Bernatowicz is a purely Polish partonymic. Only Poels use the -wicz spelling. The root word Bernat is a Polonised version of German Bernhard.
Bimmer could have been an Anglicised version of Bimer. The only way to know for sure is to consult your immirgant ancestor's OLD WORLD documents if avialable (birth or marriage certificate, possibly travel documents). US-generated documents often reflect how the name got "Anglo-mangled" in America.

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


I'm surprised a that a seemingly educated person like yourself has such a simplistic approach to a highly complciated, multi-facteed issue. No-one is proud of Moczar. He was a clever and ambitious opportunist who knew how to use the Jews' success to stir up envy and resentment against them. That argument was easy to use and provide evidence to back it up towards a group that held a disproportionate number of key posts. Jews accounted for 1% of the Polish popualtion but held 50% of the leaership posts in the security organs. In post-war Poland Jewish over-representation was also the case in the military, diffent ministries and govt offices including the powerful censorship office, not to mention the health service, academia, literature, culture, etc.

During the nearly two years that Podlasie (including the Jedwabne region) was under Soviet rule (1939-1941) red Jews terrorized the Polish populace, fingered Polish officials, officers and other patriotic Poles to the NKVD, helped the Soviets deport local Poels and confiscate their homes and held many key posts in the Soviet-imposed administration. Is it any wonder that some Jedwabners whose families had been sent into exile, jailed or otherwise oppressed felt no love lost when the tables were turned and the Germans occupied the area.

Not without signifncace is the fact that Stalin, who hated Jews with a passion, promoted their over-representation in conquered countries as part of his successful policy of antagonising various ethnic groups.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]


BERNATOWICZ: patronymic meaning "son of Bernat". (Bernat is a Polish version of Bernhard or Bernard.) Concentrated not in Silesia but in NE Poland's Suwałki region along the Lithuanian border.

BIMMER: not currently used in Poland; several dozen people sign themselves Bimer and their bastion is the Katowice and Opole areas of Silesia (Śląsk); probably an adaptation of German Böhmer (a Czech).

For more info on these please contact: polonius3@gazeta.pl

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


Becuase he's a pro-Jewish anti-Polsih chauvinist. For some reason Judaeo-Polish issues incline many of those discussing them to take sides. Why? Is it to curry favour with inlfuential Jewry for possible future benefits? In a balanced disucssion that shouldn't be the case. It takes two to tango and tangle. Both nations have sinned against the other over the centuries. Highlighting one side's transgressions and the other's victim status is a bald-faced lie!


What about Berman, Romkowski, Fejgin, Brystygier, Mietkowski, Wolińska, Hibner, Minc, Szejnfeld, Spychalski, Lewin, Komar, Toruńczyk, Lampartt, Szechter (Michnik's dad) and many, many more?

News / Poland's PiS party members and crime [346]


Unless you are a biased and one-sided poltical chauvinist, you were invited to start a PO crime thread for the sake if balance. Someone constantly doing nothing but badmouthing PiS must be badly distorted adn obsessed. Are they paying you (in whcih case your bias is at least understandable) or are you just being a "useful idiot"?

News / Poland's PiS party members and crime [346]


How many criminals linked to PO or supporting it can a political chauvinist like yourself overlook?
Somehow you failed to mention that the Platfus government deliberately shortened the crime expiry period to reward their most faithful electorate: the convict community. The PO fared better in Poland's prisons than any other political party. Something to be expected of Poland's leading theft, abuse and scam party -- PO.

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News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Sorry about that. He's still in but has dropped. Will look it up.

Kukiz 7.6%


LATEST IPSOS POLL:

PiS - 35%, PO - 18%, Nowoczesna & Kukiz 10% each, KORWIN 6%. PSL and United Left 4% each.

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


How do you know that? The fact is hat if they had fully assimilated, intermarried and abandoned their faith and cultural heritage and lost their uniqueness, they would not have achieved the position they now enjoy.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


The latest Ibris poll shows:
PiS 35
PO 20
Nowoczesność (Petru) 14
United Left (luckily strictly theoretical) 8
PSL 5

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


That is precisely why the reletively small (15 mln-strong) Jewish community
has such great economic and political clout. Had they dissolved into the mainstream they would not have gained their present level of prominence, power and influence. Religion ("the chosen people") has played a big role in it all. Even today's secularised and non-observant Jews are heirs to that tradition and usually display considerable intra-community soldiairty.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]


KLOSKA: either from Polish kluska (dumpling - originally derived from German Kloß) or German pet form of Nikolaus - Klos.

MUSSA: possibly from German Musch, derived from Moses.

For more info on these please contact: polonius3@gazeta.pl

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


Aren't you forgetting the "chosen nation" aspect? Or the Talmud saying God created Goyim to serve the Jew like beasts of burden. The Goyim were pagans, unclean, ate pork and weren't circumcised and Jews had no deisre to hobnob or interact with such Untermenschen. The Shabasengoy was OK in his place -- he was paid a few coins to come in and light the lamps and candles in Jewish homes on Sabbath.

We mustn't be ahistorical and try to impose modern Western concepts of equality and irreligion on bygone eras which functionedaccording to their own values, often quite unlike our own.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


OK, many dzienks. In Poland it would be something like resocjalizacja -- for those who only want a diploma but don't plan to use it for career purposes.

In your view is political science a soft course?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Please clue me in: what is a soft graduate? But, hey, wait a mo, I'll bet it's something bad becuase it refers to PiS. And all thsi time you didn't know I had prophetic capabilities, did you? (LOL!!!!)


That's the whole point. The ZL govt will plug up the holes in the financial system, better enforce tax collection, prevent attemtps to circumvent the law and crack down on abuses. The Polish nation deserves a fair shake, and only the patriotic right can ensure it.

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


Do you think all Jews in the Middle Ages wished to integrate. They lived in shtetls by choice and had their own separate judiciary -- one the privileges granted them by Poland's kings. They had their synagogues, ritual bath-houses, cemeteries, shops. Were there that many (or any) secular non-observant Jews back then? I really don't know but I doubt it.

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


Well, money is indeed the root fo all evil but it does provide power and influence. In Poland, Jews were also the innkeepers and often ran inns owned by the Church, Of course, we can speculate as to what migth have been. Not only regarding Jews. If Britain had despatched its navy into the North Sea and Baltic and France had attacked Germany's western flank in Sept 1939....

News / Poland's PiS party members and crime [346]


You're the crime expert and have followed PO's shenanagins closely all these years so you've got the necessary expertise.

News / The Left wing (not-so Slow) death in Poland [120]


Probably for the same reason the PO did. There were 3 mln PZPR members at one point in all key fields, and there was a lack of nonparty experts and specialists in many areas. What was Poland to do -- import specialists from Turkey or Bolivia? I guess that could be called called pragmatism or Realpolitik.

News / Poland's PiS party members and crime [346]


As I understand it, Kamiński has not withdrawn his appeal and wants it to take its course for full exoneration which is tantamount to a verdict of not guilty. Clemency or pardon indeed implies an offence, and in this case none was involved. He was framed by PO-beholden judicial officials. After 3 courts had dropped charges or acquitted Kamiński, the PO regime finally found one willing to convict him on trumped-up charges. I reckon they knew what side their bread was buttered on.

News / Poland's PiS party members and crime [346]


No, a threat to the remnants of the PO scam machine.


Too bad, because the PO have a much thicker portfolio of crimes and abuses of every type.

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


That's what we call a skrót myślowy in Polish. OK: Serbs and Croates. I studied Serbo-Croatian at uni, so it was a knee-jerk reflex.

News / The Left wing (not-so Slow) death in Poland [120]


Because it's ideology IS strongly anti-communist, the few straggly exceptions notwithstanding.
The question is why over 8 years of Plateformer misrule it was not you who ever saw fit to even mention the significant number ex-commies and secret-police collaborators popualting the PO leadership and ranks. Not a single time! Were you unaware of the degree of infiltration? Or, conversely, were you fully aware but as a paid PO propagandist (or unpaid useful idiot) you felt you had to sweep it under the carpet?

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


But a "drop" that is disproportionately more culturally and economically intelligent, potent, dynamic, influential and strategically positioned than any other nation on earth. And more power to them! Their problem is that people envy them their success to such an extent as to repeatedly even threaten their very existence. It should never be forgotten that there are only 15 million Jews worldwide -- as many as Serbo-Croats. Is there any comparison in terms of power and influence?!

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


Jews themselves believe they rule the world but almost never admit it when goyim are present.

News / Poland's PiS party members and crime [346]


You can say that again. On more than one occasion I have noted that some PF-ers will always take the anti-Polish side of any controversy. I had mistakenly assumed that referred only to antagonistic nations or ethnicites. It turns out some will even defend the Evil Empire, mankind's greatest scourge, if only to strike a blow at Poland, Poles or things Polish. Anyone know why he even bothers to live in a country he seeths with such hatred towards? One wonders whether he also advocates honouring the Nazi and SS war dead with monuments on Polish soil?

News / The Left wing (not-so Slow) death in Poland [120]


All-pervasive cleverly worded propaganda of slick, glib and slippery politicians has long been known to sway the masses. Hitler was physically unattractive, had BO and objectively came across as a wildly gesticulating buffoon. And yet, the overwhelming majrotiy of one of Europe's most culturally and civilisationally (?) advanced nations fell for it all hook, line and sinker.

News / The Left wing (not-so Slow) death in Poland [120]


PO RIDDLED WITH EX-COMMIES ANDSECRET POLICE INFORMERS

Hunting out the few PiS people with links to the former regime is laughable considering how their chief rival PO is riddled with ex-commies and the PZPR regime's secret collaborators (SC).

Such people have held posts of high responsibility and prominence in the Platformer camp and included:

BARBARA KUDRYCKA: Tusk's education min., belonged to PZPR.
ANDRZEJ RZEPLIŃSKI: PO-backed Constitutional Tribunal member; PZPR member.
ANDRZEJ OLECHOWSKI: PO co-founder; PZPR member and collaborator of PRL special services sent to USA as a spy; served as finance and foreign minister in post-1989 governemnts;

MICHA£ BONI: Tusk's adviser, admitted to signing a pledge to be an SB former in 1985.
ZB. ĆWIĄKALSKI: Tusk's justice min. and prosecutor general; PZPR cell leader and SB SC.
IWONA ŚLEDZIŃSKA-KARASIŃKA: PO MP; worked for PZPR organ "Głos Robotniczy"; lost bid for culture min. in Jerzy Buzek's govt after her anti-Semitic activities were revealed.

ZBIGNIEW PAW£OWICZ: PO senator; secret collaborator of PRL military counter-intelligence.
KAZIMIERZ KUTZ: film-maker; PO senator;registered as SC canadidate as early as 1971.
MAREK KONOPKA: PO senator; registered during marial law as a secret collaborator of PRL military counter-intelligence.
JAN KURATA: PO MP, secret SB collaborator.

NOTE: Those who read Polish will find a more complete list of PO-linked collaborators and ex-commies at:

bankier.pl/forum/temat_re-30-po-wcow-to-byli-pzpr-owcy-lub-tw-lista-tuskokomuchow-w-po,6990879.html