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What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]
Oops, guys, all of you who posted here when I was soundly sleeping.
I must say I am NOT impressed with your contribution.
First of all, the thread is kinda historical.
That is why, can you abstain from mentioning such contemporary facts?:
To be fair the Germans do give Poland some EU money.
Secondly, the thread is supposed to present positive things. That is why such true facts as
Murder of 5 milion polish citizens.Murder of the better part of the polish elite.
are politically incorrect here. :):):)
BTW, Sok, since when have you started acknowledging Polish Jews? You stinking hypocrite!
Third, the thread is about Germans and Poland. Can you talk about England and other nations somewhere else? :):):)
But they owe England a lot.
Last, but not least, personal opinions which don`t have much historical value for the thread are also unnecessary. :):):)
i for my part think that this is kinda boring. i like poles. punkt. i liked/like to be there. ende.
I hope it is not too difficult to remember:
So, again:
Germans.Positive.History of Poland.Do you think you are able to bear it in mind? I like working with
intelligent people.
If you have nothing valuable to contribute, can you just read and learn from the thread?
Well, I hope you will come back to topic now.
Thanks in advance.
:):):):):):):)
Here is an example.
Coming back to Krakow again.
In one of his posts Palivec mentioned some Polish words which are derived from German: ratusz, burmistrz. etc etc. Town hall, mayor, etc.
Why?
Many Polish medieval towns adopted the so called Magdeburg Law for their settlement, development and ruling.
Magdeburg Rights (German: Magdeburger Recht) or Magdeburg Law were a set of German town laws regulating the degree of internal autonomy within cities and villages granted by a local ruler. Modelled and named after the laws of the German city of Magdeburg and developed during many centuries of the Holy Roman Empire, it was possibly the most important set of Germanic mediæval city laws.
Krakow is a perfect example:
Cities with German city rights often had similar layouts. Somewhat isolated was part of the city containing the residence and castle of the regional ruler, along with a cathedral. The city proper was centered around a market square which featured a church for wealthy merchants and artisans. Streets led out from the market in a planned grid system or concentric circles in which less wealthy citizens lived; riverfront sections of a city were designed with semicircles. The perimeter of the city was guarded by defensive walls, gates, and moats.
worldlibrary.org/articles/german_town_law
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_town_law
Together with German Town Law, German colonists/immigrants came and settled in Poland, welcomed by local rulers. Also, in Krakow.
Concurrent with the change in the structure of the Polish State and sovereignty was an economic and social impoverishment of the country. Harassed by civil strife and foreign invasions, like the Mongol invasion in 1241, the small principalities became enfeebled and depopulated. The incomes of the Princes began to decrease materially. This led them to take steps toward encouraging immigration from foreign countries. A great number of German peasants, who, during the interregnum following the death of Frederick II, suffered great oppression at the hands of their lords, were induced to settle in Poland under very favorable conditions.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostsiedlung#Poland