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pawian   
24 May 2012
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [859]

Hey how about not having double standards and saying the same to Sobieski. I do not see him sourcing his information.

I won`t say it to Sobieski because that is what I learnt on my own.

However, I couldn`t locate any sources which prove your apparent claims. :):):):)

I use words like 'apparently' and 'from what I gather' as I am not arrogant and I do not falsely claim to state facts when I am not absolutely sure.

That is the favourite method of PiS leaders to suggest things which are untrue. They love using such words as "apparently" and "from what I gather."

there is no sense to argue now with representatives of the league of mental and/or moral midges on this forum.

I don`t mind being in that league. :):):):):

However, if I am a mental/moral midget, then you are a mental/moral plankton. :):):):):)

There will be soon( or soon enough) Polish report on the Smolensk crash !

You mean PiS report, of course.

PiS is not all Poland, never forget it.
pawian   
23 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

Yes, such people also impress me. :):):):) Have you noticed that various kinds of trolls have become very active before EURO 2012? Does it mean Poland is getting on their nerves? :) Warszawette, I have time to deal with you now.

Unemployed Westerners who don`t need to go abroad. How true!

guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/08/ireland-migration-young-liverpool

Up to 75,000 Irish citizens are predicted to emigrate in 2012 - higher than the levels of the late 1980s. In a country with a population of 4.5 million, such shifts generate intense interest and the Irish Times has even created a Generation Emigration blog, with the headline styled up as a departure board.

They don`t need but they want and go.

The same with Poles - they don`t really need to go abroad, but they want. Poles are natural born travellers. Don`t you know that a Poles discovered America?

As far as I am concerned, Poland is for (the sake of) Poles, not Poles for Poland

Sorry, I am from the old school of Polish upbringing. So many patriots in my family (my grandpa was shot in an execution during WW2) are too an insurmountable burden.

PiS or Palikot, unless something new shows up. I am not fond of either, but there is not much to choose from. SLD is out of the question, since Belka and "his" tax, I consider them enemies, and PO just defined themselves as my enemies as well, since they decided that I should not live long enough to get the retirement.

You need to think it over. Currently your political preferences are in a mess.

kondzior: Palikot,Check how they voted on retainment age issue.

Exactly.

Another achievement of the Tusk government: subcontractors (mostly Polish firms) building motorways haven't received money for the job done,however contractors have been paid by gov i.e. Polish taxpayers already.

It is a problem that they are working on now.

Poland shall suffer a lot since banks (also involved in Greece) here are mainly western capital owned

Not quite.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKO_Bank_Polski
pawian   
23 May 2012
Love / What strange/unnerving/funny things do your Polish wives do? [153]

You are unsatiable. :):):):)
Most Polish wives aren`t like that.

do Polish wives have special designated times, and other times that are not acceptable?

Yes, in my opinion they have. Polish wives are conservative and they prefer morning or evening, because during the day they are busy with work, children, cooking, housework etc.
pawian   
23 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

Sorry but unemployed Westerners don't need to go abroad and at home they can live, eat and expect some results.

It is so easy to topple your silly arguments that it has ceased to be a pleasure for me.

Let others do it.

Good day, too. :):):):)
pawian   
23 May 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [306]

Jan Tomaszewski, PiS member, a famed former goalkeeper of the national team in 1970s, first refused to support the Polish team during EURO 2012 but changed his mind after a serious discussion with his boss. Very funny.

Tomaszewski-%E2%80%98will-be-supporting-Poland-during-Euro-2012-says-party-leader
Tomaszewski-I-will-not-be-cheering-for-Poland-at-Euro-2012
pawian   
22 May 2012
Travel / Unusual architecture - bulidings and structures in Poland [28]

You are from Warsaw, I am from Krakow. :):):):) You have Palace of Culture and Science, we have St. Mary`s Cathedral.

Poniał aluzju? :):):):)

Besides, dozens of PF members haven`t been to Warsaw or Moscow.

Please explain your golden rule to me.

Live and let live. :):):):)

I will never cease to admire the National Library in Warsaw:

National Library in Warsaw, Poland

Library in Poland

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_University_Library
pawian   
20 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

Curiosity killed the cat....

OK, Grześ, you are off the hook. I am too curious. What if you write sth funny and I miss it? :):):):)

So, what did you write?

But we must stop "wasting too much time at work" :)))))))

Aaaa, now I know what you mean! Yes, I was too fast.

But that wasn`t such a funny mistake for you to laugh at it for two pages.

Or was, after all? :):):):)
pawian   
20 May 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [306]

Iron, I have had this feeling for some time and I can`t get it over.

You are a female, right?
pawian   
20 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

And please stop comparing France and Poland -

But it was you who started comparing. :):):):)

I am French and I can talk about my country.

To conclude instead of comparing oranges and apples, you need to compare Poland with similar countries (Czech Rep., Slovakia, Hungary....).

Yes, that is why you should give this thread a break for a while so that people from countries similar to Poland have their chance. :):):):):)

I assume that you are writing from the USA or Canada and therefore very far away from Europe:

No, I am writing from Poland, but according to you it is still very far away from Europe. :):):):) So, it doesn`t matter to you, I suppose, where I am writing from.

Will it be OK if I move to France and write from there? :):):)

I happen to live in Pl (not my choice, family reasons)

That must be horrible experience for you. :):):)

KONIEC

Not Fin?
pawian   
20 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

But I can`t refrain replying. :):

Besides, today is a new day. :) Co było a nie jest nie pisze się w rejestr - Passed things belong to the past.

but contrary to what happens in Poland, people in France receive decent money from State.

That is why France`s public debt is going to hit 87% GDP this year.

expatica.com/fr/news/french-news/french-public-debt-to-hit-87-of-gdp-in-2012-report_178293.html

Poland - 56.4% in 2011 and is going to drop to 53.7 in 2012.

wbj.pl/article-59059-polish-public-debt-growth-expected-to-be-at-record-low-this-year.html

So, your decent money from the State is simple borrowing from future generations. One may say that your children and grandchildren are sponsoring you.

Well, not a bad idea. After all, you put substantial effort and money into bringing them up. :)

Warszawette, in case you accused me of mobbing, let me show you that I am also able and ready to agree with you:

Poland is very far behind and probably shall always be.

I earnestly hope so!!
pawian   
20 May 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [306]

On the side note, seriously, people should get over the notion that they or anybody else is or can ever be impartial.

Exactly.

Only our PF mods are impartial.

Such trivial thing but still some don't get it i.e. Iron, but I'm not going to elaborate since he is now suspended.

Alli, you are a person of honour.

I always thought that he is a despicable person and politician.

I tended to forgive him all his previous pranks and antics because I believed he still controlled it. But the way he let the PiS-oriented reporter provoke him into such a silly reaction seriously tarnished his image in my eyes. He should allow an expert to see into his disturbed state of mind.

More or less the same I think about Stankiewicz.

Yes, she practises cheap journalism for simpletons.

To be honest, she is as maniacal as most PiS leaders/members:

PO always seemed to me like a patchy party with very different people in respect of their opinions, political platforms and culture. T

It is their great asset and a weakness, too. But more an asset, I suppose.
pawian   
20 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

I will fight for it, and die if necessary, but I will not starve for it.

Eternal Polish dilemma:
Norwid said: Poles are a great nation, but hopeless society.

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You have to remember that what you are describing is the present situation, but in 15-20 years time what is fact and reality now will be very different from today. Just to give you an illustration, compare Poland to how it looked like 20 years ago, and think how it will look like 20 years from now.

Well said.

Even people who hate PiS, Palikot and so on, intend to go to vote against PO. For whom we'll vote it is a secondary matter, at best.

Aliens?

Warszawette: unemployment rate is close to 14%

Well actually it closer to 12% to be exact

Hague, let`s stop for a while because we might be accused of mobbing...... :):):):)
pawian   
19 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

We "wykształciuchy" are giving up on PO just about now.

Nope. "The Educated" will always stick to PO. :):):):)

Why?

Because they are intelligent. And they perfectly realise what PiS and other "uneducated" forces might do to Poland if they take power again, God forbid.

But how would you know, when all your knowlage about Poland comes from TV and newspapers...

:):):):)

You forgot magazines and the radio. :):):):)
pawian   
19 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

Pawian, 2050? Are you crazy? I refuse to suffer today because some decades from now, "maybe", just "maybe", it bring something good.

That is very selfish of you. Stop being so egoistic. Think about your country. Don`t you love Poland?

So better we consume it today, instead of leting the government to waste it tomorrow.

As I said, the policy of carpe diem is exciting, but harmful in the long run.

Anyway, no one I know is going to vote for PO ever again.

Probably, you know the wrong people. Don`t worry - one day you will meet the right ones.

To help you recognise them more easily:

PIS Poland

Law and Justice Party won the most votes among voters with basic schooling and vocational education . Voters with secondary and post-secondary education , as well as licencjaci and higher educated in the majority voted for the PO - according to data from TNS for TVP and TVN 24 .
pawian   
19 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

I can tell you that most Poles are against it.

Yes, of course, it is natural. I know my compatriots. P:):):):)

the current government shall take care of it in a few months so

Do you wanna bet your new government won`t do anything about it? :):):):)

Like I said, it's purely ideology and not pragmatic. Do Tusk and co. know what goes on in the real world? Nope!

Yes, I agree, Tusk and PO are not pragmatic. Instead of flattering people to make sure they will be voted for at next elections, they are introducing the reform what has an immediate negative result in recent polls.

Yes, probably Tusk and co. don`t know what is going on in the real world but they know what is going to happen in Poland in the future.

Let me present a link to a site where you may learn that by 2050 Poland will have lost a few million workforce due to deteriorating demographics.

knaw.academia.edu/MargaPeeters/Papers/1331546/A_global_view_on_demographic_pressure_and_labour_market_participation

Therefore, such claims

Personally I don't mind working until death if my health let me but who shall hire me when I'm .... 65 ? ;). When we read ads for ex secretaries in Poland, we realize that past let's say 32, women are considered "too old" ;).

Old people in Poland usually look like wrecks, have very poor health so working until 67 does not make any sense.

might be valid today but most probably will be completely useless in 2040. Experts alarm that due to tragic workforce shortages, even 75 year old secreteries will be looked for by employers.

All in all:
My second piece of advice to you (in different words and in bold, in case you didn`t understand the first piece): stop being so concentrated on the present, think about the future too. Carpe diem is a nice attitude to adopt by an individual but very dangerous to the overall prosperity of the country.
pawian   
19 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

Very interesting but please do not copy what you find on the net without checking accuracy and compare what is comparable -

I am afraid that your request also refers to you. You read posts without checking the real message and as a result you draw wrong conclusions.

As to Poland (where I live) putting retirement age at 67 is completely absurd and only motivated by ultra liberal ideology.

You should go back to those posts which inform readers that the retirement reform in Poland is going to start in 2013 and last till 2040.

Therefore, such claims as

Not only most Poles at that age, if still alive, look like ruins but also the labor market does not enable to keep workers longer as there is no work. Officially the unemployment rate is close to 14% (higher than the average in UE) and how much would it be if those millions of Poles did not flee their country for bread?

might sound valid today but in 2040 they will most probably be completely useless.

Those politicians don't know anything about labor market.

Yes, quite possible, but they have money with which they hire experts to predict what is going to happen in the nearest and distant future.

One piece of advice - don`t be so focused on today. You should also look into future.

PS. Grześ, sorry, I can`t read your last post because I decided to put you on ignore. Talking to you is senseless - a complete waste of time. You are like your boss - an economic conman and pretender. Bye, bye. :):):):):)
pawian   
19 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

Now it is cristal clear that you are a total ignorant

Nope. I know what I am talking about. And you also know it because I don`t suppose you are really so stupid. You just prefer to play childish games, because you are unable to run a rational discussion.

Another link, this time in English. I hope you will be able to read that data.

stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DatasetCode=LEVEL

PS. I just remembered you support Korwin Mikke and advocate his economic ideas here. I understand now why he boasts 1% support from voters at each elections. :):):):):)
pawian   
18 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

and in your opinion that's due to a fact that Polish employees "lose too much time at work",

Sorry, if you can`t understand Polish in the article from my link, it is your problem. I am not going to translate it for you.

How about shooting yourself after all, to spare us time and trouble? :):):):)
pawian   
18 May 2012
Life / Old Polish (Russian) Films [9]

Your crazy. :):):):):)

But thank you anyway.

Do you know if the version which was dubbed in Polish is available?

It is, I am sure, but the holder of such a version is still unknown. Sorry. Only Russian versions are available online.

Also, can this be put on a DVD somehow

You can copy films from youtube - there are many ways - one of them: youtube.com/watch?v=rPVg0V86DZg

BTW, my husband is a violin player :)

Just like me. Give warm regards to your hubby.

My husband also said it might have been called "Pożegnanie Ojczyzny"? Is maybe the version in Polish?

Yes, it is the Polish title, but of the polonaise by one of Ogiński family, not of the film:



My husband also said it might have been called "Pożegnanie Ojczyzny"? Is maybe the version in Polish?

I found the song

performed by Belarussian singers

First in Russian

then in Polish at 2.28

youtube.com/watch?v=GxpxE6kJRAI

Incredibly inspiring.

The text: ch.tarczewski.free.fr/pivot/polonez.pdf
pawian   
18 May 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [306]

thats nothing unusual, if some doesn't want be film they can object.

Unfortunately, in Poland, politicians may be filmed or taken photos of in public places without limitations.

The fourth power is the term applied to media.
pawian   
17 May 2012
Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

Come on, that`s ridiculous.

Admit you are saying this boolshyt to provoke a good laugh. :):):):):)

Thanx, we will save on doctors.

PS. OK, some Ukrainian women are almost as pretty as Polish ones.
pawian   
17 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

Do I really need to explain such things? It is explained in the article. 67% compared to 178%.

OK, if you need a simpler explanation, here you are:

What the Poles are doing at work - the case of corporate slackers.

In the light of recent studies of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), which brings together the most developed countries of the world, the Poles occupied 2nd place in terms of the amount of time spent at work. Ahead of us, are only workers from South Korea.

Thing is exactly the opposite in terms of productivity. Poles are in this category on the penultimate place. Less productive are only Mexicans. Is the reason for the low productivity - despite many hours spent at work - still present mentality, born in the time of communism or poor work organization? One reason for this situation is certainly too little involvement, insufficient to carry out their duties and doing everything except the task assigned by supervisor.

managernaobcasach.pl/aktualnosci/gospodarka/1451-co-polacy-robia-w-pracy-czyli-rzecz-o-firmowych-obibokach.html

I wonder what you will say to it.

An honorable guy, according to the pre-war honour code, would apologise and then shoot oneself. :):):):)

Are you such a guy? :):):):)

If yes, you should know that I was joking about the killing part. Apology will be enough.
pawian   
17 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

OK, "darling", go for it !

Yes, that's obvious.

Now please kindly explain that part about "us" losing too much time at work. I hope to hear from you soon !

Sooner than you thought:

Is that all what you can spout on the issue?

If yes, it is pathetic, indeed. Are you an ignorant?

Grzesiu, what is wrong with you? You got lost in life or something?
pawian   
17 May 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [306]

I don't recall him claiming that he is impartial.

I am!:):):)

Look how a notable PO politician attacks a TV reporter (PiS fan) who was filming him and trying to pry out an interview. The guy really should undergo some kind of therapy.

Get out of here or I`ll break your camera!
pawian   
17 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

No, darling, I can easily prove that YOU are ignorant about Polish matters.

The efficiency in Poland, lower than in well-developed countries, has been a problem for many years, despite it constant rise since 1989. Poland - 67%, Germany - 106%, Luxemburg -178% of European average.

And in case you have problems with understanding the relation between efficiency (which you call productlivity) and wages/salaries, I advise you to read a few articles about it.

If you know Polish enough, you can start with this text, just excellent for simpletons: