Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


This is exactly the theory prevalent among Polish linguists.
Lyzko is right when he writes that some areas were considered mere territories by the the Poles.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


that's either russified Polish or polonized Russian :)

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


bingo

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]


What plane is this camera showing?
Do you see red markings?


Visibility was 400 meters. More than enough to see power lines. The boys are locals, they could have known where the power lines are. You can tell where the lines are also because you know where the power line towers/poles are.

Do we know know for a fact that the picture in the camera is the boys' camera? They never mention anything about the camera. Neither do the interviewers. Is the plane shown the very plane that crashed? Can you see red markings? Or is it a flick of another plane. Perhaps taken days before?

Also, fog density is not always uniform and in fact it is often thicker at ground level. Looking up you may see blue skies, while looking forward you may see little to nothing. I drive through for at times. In hilly areas there will be patches of fog and patches of clear air. Sometimes I have to slow down to a crawl because the fog is very thick but the sun and the skies are clearly visible. On occasion I will see no fog on eye level but looking up... lotsa fog. Or would you call that low ceiling?

From the plane the picture may look completely different. The fog has no background light (the Sun) as it does when you look upwards. Hence the fog density fro above will apear higher.


Not really. Jet fuel and contents of the plane (synthetic materials) don't give out bright smoke. The smoke should be dark. The foggy background is not. Also notice the sun setting during the interview with the boys. The angle of the Sun at this point causes it to be behind the thickest possible layer of fog (horizontal view) and yet you can clearly see the Sun.

Take a look at the same interview starting at 0:08.
youtube.com/watch?v=8OytAQFCkFs
The view shows where the plane came from, not where it crashed. That is shown later. Are the boys and the interviewers standing in the epicenter of the crash and fog appears to be around them? A few hours later after the crews arrived and cordoned off the area? There seems to be little wind and it blows from the Northerly direction (look at the smoke). The 0:08 in the flick I linked to shows Eastern, Norther and Western part of the scene. The fog, not smoke is everywhere. If the Wind is blowing from the North then there should be no fog/smoke to the right of the main scene, and hardly any in the Eastern part of the scene. And yet the backg roung looks smoggy? Would you suggest that KGB glued the smoke to the Northern part of the scene? Or perhaps they are blowing it from a machine in co-operation with The Hollywood?

I don't know whether someone "helped" the plane crash and neither do you. Your theory based on a youtube flick is very far fetched and in parts clearly wrong. You want to find a proof the Russians did it so guess what! You'll find it even in the way the journalist is holding the microphone, or in the way the twigs are moving with the breeze.

Wait and see. For now the only roof you offered is that of your obsession.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Yes, the enemy would be the ones to try and crack encryption.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


You probably meant code-crackers' "nightmare"

Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [907]


Guzzler,

Thank you for your posts, even if I sense sadness.

The picture you mention is likely that of Our Lady of Czestochowa also known as The Black Madonna of Czestochowa. Without a doubt the most important and the most sacred of Poland's religious symbols:

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]


I read a suggestion to the contrary. That pilot received some a silver medal from Bogdan Klich, the minister of national defense. The medal was presented to the pilot for "following of procedures and for his sense of responsibility for the four presidents on board of the plane" (presidents of Estonia, Latvia Lithuania and Poland)

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]


Professionals make mistakes too.
And who said he made a mistake 4 times?
He made a mistake one time. His last one.

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]


I think you're jumping the gun.

In fact the Russians said the whole investigation will be conducted in close co-operation with the Poles. They also say they won't do any work on the black box without Polish investigators present.

Let's live and see.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


Plenty of posts by Polish people in this thread. Or is your English tracking you down and makes it hard for you to realize that?


Define "normal language"?

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Because that is what the English called a similar garment that was used in smoking rooms. The borrowing, in Polish, was later extended to denote a tuxedo.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


ouch!
Or was that just a joke?

Travel / Your best memory after visiting Poland [41]

I don't think he meant chicken thighs.

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]


That explains the date of the first partition of Poland but it still offers no proof that everything was peaceful between Germans and Poles during partitions. In fact it was not.

Some examples:

- Uprising in 1794
- Early 1830 - the policy of Germanization is picking up and Polish is forbidden in schools and administration.
- Uprising of 1846
- 1863 - Prussia and Russia sign a pack of co-operation in their fight against Poles rising yet again (Powstanie Styczniowe, i.e. the January Uprising of 1963-64

- 1871 Bismarck intensifies the policy of Germanization
- 1885 the process of "rugi pruskie" begins - expulsion of Poles from Eastern Prussian provinces who did not have German citizenship.
- 1894 HAKATA created (although the name was adopted later) for the purpose of further limiting Polish culture and language in the eastern parts of Prussia.
- The strikes in Wrzesnia, 1901-1902. Poles protested against the removal of the Polish language from the religious education and against severe corporal punishments inflicted on Polish children who dared to speak their native language. Poles were punished with fines and jail terms

There. That's how peaceful it was.

As for the Polish army, I never saw anything wrong with knowing how to pull a trigger or throw a grenade properly. Heck, a lot of kids who served in tank divisions at least could learn how to drive a tractor with a flare ;)

Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]


And that is the correct answer. The word Busia is American-Polish. The word has never been present in any Polish dictionaries, let alone Busha. In fact, I can't think of any native Polish word that would have the "sh" cluster in it.

History / Future of Kaliningrad Oblast - is it possible to annex by Poland or will it become an independent country? [137]


The hilarious thing is that the floods are already happening, so the whole debate on who will get what might not be there when they get it is equally amusing.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8584665.stm

Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]



Deflection a most common Polish tactics?
Like the last line in this fine example - polishforums.com/off-topic-lounge-47/openly-anti-semitic-brits-expel-j ew-42885/2/#msg874288 ?


That's about right and that's why so many Poles, even those previously staying away from debate, are growing increasingly tired and pi55ed off with idiotic threads like this one.

Are Poles this, do Poles that? WTF is that?

So don't be surprised to be told off for the idiocy that is neither typically British, American nor Polish. The mods of this forum don't give a 5hit because in the admin's mind all that counts is traffic. (which btw. could lead to another topic: are so many Americans obese because they care about quantity instead of quality?). That approach in itself is rude. Shove lots and lots of threads down our throats, regardless of how stupid (like this one) they are.

You seem like a person went here and there around the world. So did I and I have to say that it took me more than just the ability to speak the language to break some barriers which made me look rude here in North America. Looking in the eye was one. Not a result of rudeness but of cultural background. In the US and Canada avoiding eye contact will be a sign of rudeness or falsehood. In Poland, under some circumstances, it is (at least it was when I lived there) rude or even a sign of challenge/aggression.

When paying in a store do you hand the money into the cashier's hand or do you put it on the counter? The latter is considered rude in N.A. but not in Poland.

Why is it that Americans speak to you from a distance of minimum of 3 feet (the so called personal space) and have to be loud and bother others, not interested in the conversation? Or is coming up closer, as they do in Poland or Italy, rude?

And why, when I enter the store minding my own business, is this department store clerk bothering me with his stupid "can I help you"? Do I look like a handicap needing help? If I do I'll ask.

Can you imagine that in N.A. when they invite you to a wedding you're supposed to pay for your own drinks? How rude is that!

When in Japan, I'm sure you came across certain customs that made either you or the Japanese look rude. But hey, the Japanese look different so it must be customs. Poles look similar so it must be rudeness.

We could go on with examples. I can't say Poles are the most polite people, neither can I say that about many others,except, perhaps, Arabs. At least those I know personally were always extremely polite and trying to accommodate their guests to the point of absurd. But I experienced enough rudeness wherever I went, France being a fine example, Bell Canada being another.

I hope this answers your question.

Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

Reading some posts by non-Poles on this forum it looks like Polish rudeness has a long way to go before it catches up with the fine examples coming from outside of Poland.

History / Future of Kaliningrad Oblast - is it possible to annex by Poland or will it become an independent country? [137]


Because of global warming it will be flooded so it may be a a good idea to leave it with the Russians or give it to the Germans.

Work / English teaching books in Poland: villains and heroes [30]

I stand corrected.

In 1970/80 L.G. Alexander's manuals were pretty popular and that's what I used to teach ESL.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_George_Alexander

The worst by far was Najnowszy Samouczek Jezyka Angielskiego (The Newest Manual of Self Taught English). I came across it when I first came into the US. The book was first published in 1948 and in late 1980's it didn't appear it had ever been revised. To me one value of that terrible piece of garbage was that it explained why so many Poles in the US spoke "English" with the same clumsy jig and with the same consistent mispronunciations.

Work / English teaching books in Poland: villains and heroes [30]

What racist drivel?
The thread is about English teaching books, no?
I found some second hand copies online.
alejka.pl/my-english-book-podrecznik-jezyka-angielskiego-i-rok-nauki.html

Work / English teaching books in Poland: villains and heroes [30]

My first English manual (I forgot the title) was revolving around two families - The Browns and The Wilsons. The Wilsons had a son Robert who was a medical student, and Susan who had a pus.sy... I mean a cat named Pus.sy.

(I had to add dots inside the cat's name since it turns out this forum censors words from English manuals for beginners too)

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [558]


Those who wanted they accepted and many became officers. In fact I knew personally two such Jews when I lived in the US. They deserted shortly before September 1 1939.


Yes, of course. Every single Jew who lived in Poland between 1918 and 1939 was between the ages of 7 and 14, which was the age group the law applied too. Not a single Jews was older or younger. And every single one of them followed that law too. Even in localities where Jews were a crushing majority. A miracle, I guess.


Not those pogroms. They organized their own, on on a much larger scale. In fact, they still do.

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [558]


are you sure?

Zegota, Council to Aid Jews (Polish: Rada Pomocy Żydom), an underground organization of Polish resistance in German-occupied Poland from 1942 to 1945....Poland was the only country in occupied Europe where there existed such a dedicated secret organization


A pile of lies. Some Jews were saved during the Uprising and those indeed took part in the remainder of the struggle. In 1944 there were hardly any Jews left in Warsaw. Let alone enough to even think about a major uprising. Btw. what were Jews doing in the years before WW2. How many of the 3.5 million Polish Jews organized themselves into units fighting Germans? 5? 10?


A few did. Most lived their lives voluntarily isolating themselves from Poles. A great number of Polish Jews before WW2 didn't even speak Polish.


Wasn't there antisemitism elsewhere? How about Egypt? Rome? Spain? Germany? Great Britain? Portugal? Romania? Hungary? Italy? Switzerland? Austria? Australia? USA?

Wherever Jews went soon there was antisemitism.
So what's your point?


All Poles?
I know quite a few antisemitic Americans.
So I guess those Poles who don't like Jews are likely to have the same reasons some Americans hate Jews.


Few Jews ever considered themselves Polish. Even after generations. So no, they were not the same at all. And they are not the same in the US either. Remember, they don't hide what they feel - Jewish first, American second.


You're welcome.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

That movie is set in outer spaces."


I never claimed the plural usage is mainstream. There are an estimated 900,000 word in the English language. A vast majority of them are not in mainstream use. They still exists as valid words. The same hold true for "cosmic spaces". Not your everyday concept, but it is in use.

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I wouldn't worry about people's reactions. In this day and age, in the so called civilized countries there are still people who do not understand why hands should be washed before meals, or what the value is.


Kinda like God and gods? To some you cannot pluralize the word "god" as they are convinced there is only one. Point of view, philosophy and tradition are one thing, linguistic reality is another. There is a significant body of work where the term is used on a regular basis. Again, pluralized space in reference to cosmos is not your average household concept, but the concept exists and is very much alive.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


It turns out they study both.


In the classic way?
What is that classic way?

In this day and age space, in reference to cosmos is certainly pluralized as illustrated above. What more, some argue that cosmic spaces may have subspaces, and its irrelevant whether there is one or more cosmic space or not. The point is that in English the word has plural forms.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


I'm sure you can give me all kinds of grammatical sources. I am giving you examples of living English as used by native speakers of the language.

Plenty of cosmic spaces out there. Get used to it ;)

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


That would mean there is only one Space.
A lot of astronomers would disagree with you.


The book quoted above does. And so do numerous scientists.

Life goes on. You need to keep up with your own language.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


I'm a little surprised that a native speaker of English can write such obvious garbage. Not trying to offend you, and I still consider your a good teacher of English. But remember this thread next time the talk about linguistic qualifications of Poles teaching English, compared to their British counterparts.


Yes.

3. Cosmic Spaces and Coloring Axioms

A space is cosmic if it is the continuous image of a separable metric space X. Equivalently, X is cosmic if it has a countable network, i.e., a countable collection N of subsets of X such that if x ∈ U with U open, then x ∈ N ⊆ U for some N ∈ N.

source (page 91)
www1.elsevier.com/homepage/sac/opit/book.pdf

In fact "spaces" (plural) is used frequently in regards to cosmos. You just haven't come across that yet until today, have you?