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WielkiPolak   
28 Jan 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

Looking at the Polish PM's response to this, as well as the reactions of some of the other PiS politicians, I get the impression they have no intention of putting the breaks on this law, something I'm happy to see.

Again, this isn't a law preventing more research in to the Holocaust or even criticising some Polish citizens for their actions during the Holocaust. It's simply a law preventing the a lie that has been repeated and published far too often many times now, that there were 'Polish death camps.'
WielkiPolak   
27 Jan 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

The way that he rose out of absolutely nowhere to advise senior Israeli politicians, and now that he's constantly at the side of Morawiecki... it's just strange.

Yep we pretty much agree on this. He's gone from a complete nobody in Poland, to suddenly, in a short space of time, being all over the Polish media and constantly with or around PiS politicians. It's obvious he isn't in this because of some new found love of Poland.

Of course the difference between me and you on this, is that you would love for the right to split and many PiS supporter to turn on them. It only gives the opposition an opportunity to strengthen and you would hope it's enough to prevent PiS from being re-elected. I on the other hand, still believe that PiS is the best thing for Poland at this time, much better than PO was for 8 years + there is practically no serious opposition right now. Having said that, I've never claimed that they were perfect, and this cosiness with Israeli representatives is concerning for sure. It will be interesting to see what happens with this. If PiS stick to their guns then their voters will be happy. If they wobble on this, it could lose them supporters.

Is there are a line of countries and people which would like to to tell Poland what laws should introduce on its soil and what shouldn't?

It seems so, and right now it appears to be Israeli. This new found 'friendship' with people connected to the Israeli government has so far been followed by

1] PiS getting criticised for reacting too slowly to the handful or anti-Semitic and xenophobic slogans in the Polish Independence Day march.
2] Demands for the delegalisation of ONR
3] And now anger at a law they wish to bring in to tackle the 'Polish death camps' myth.

Why are people from other countries even getting involved? What on earth does a new law being looked at in Poland have to do with Lapid or Netanyahu? It would simply be a law defending the good name of Poland and preventing lies about supposed Polish death camps being repeated - why does it bother them?
WielkiPolak   
27 Jan 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1538]

It might look like I'm a bit Jew obsessed today, but it isn't my fault that it's all happening.

You may have heard the Polish government is looking to bring in a law making the use of the term 'Polish death camp' punishable with prison.

Well it seems Israel, the supposed great friend of Poland with whom relations are improving, is very much against this, even though the term 'Polish death camps' is factually inaccurate.

jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Israel-strongly-opposes-Polish-bill-outlawing-term-Polish-death-camps-539972

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanhayu, has called the law baseless and told the Israeli ambassador in Poland to meet with the Polish PM and express his opposition to the law.

An even more furious reaction was shown by the leader of the Israeli Yesh Atid party, Yair Lapid, who defiantly stated that there were Polish death camps and that no law would ever change that. He got in to a mini argument with the Pol embassy in Israel over it [screenshot attached].

The intriguing thing is why Israel would be against such a law. It wouldn't be a law that punishes people for suggesting that some Polish people might have part-taken in the atrocities, it would simply not allow for the term 'Polish death camps,' which is an incorrect statement, to be used.

In my view, if Poland doesn't go through with the law after this negative reaction in Israel, it will only increase the belief in Poland that PiS just do whatever Israel instructs them to do.


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WielkiPolak   
25 Jan 2018
History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]

Yes Russia is a Christian Orthodox country and I suppose Putin is actually a decent guy?

Ktos we're not talking about Russia from hundreds of years ago. I'm not saying Russia is inherently evil - but the Russia of the last 100+years is a bad country and remains so today.
WielkiPolak   
24 Jan 2018
History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]

its purpose: to keep the Polish public in a state of constant fear and anxiety

But the main public media outlet in Poland [TVP] isn't constantly harping on about Russia. If anything, they are having a go at the EU, and are certainly not trying to convince anyone to vote for anything that would surrender more power to the EU.

I don't watch a whole load of TVN, Polsat, read GW etc. but I've never known them to be particularly anti-Russian. In fact, if anything, GW is seen as more of an anti-Polish commie rag.
WielkiPolak   
24 Jan 2018
History / POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER [513]

These are not Polish media

Yeah because the Polish media just loves Russia right? Gazeta Polska does nothing but praise Russia all day? Get real. The truth is most sides of the media in Poland are quite anti Russian [even if for different reasons]. It is probably one of the few things they can agree on - that Russia is bad. Although there are of course still some commie politicians and members of the media who have sympathies towards Russia, but not many.
WielkiPolak   
11 Jan 2018
Feedback / How to reply to a thread on this website? [28]

Don't know how things look on your computer but there should be a white box underneath the last reply [turns yellow when you click on it and start to type] with the words 'post message' below it.
WielkiPolak   
4 Jan 2018
News / Americans incite hatred towards Russia in Polish media [75]

I think a lot of people in Poland don't like Russia, with good reason. The PiS government certainly doesn't and again, that isn't surprising. Russia has not exactly been much of a friend to Poland in the past. I think the dislike of Russia is more to do with the people who run it, rather than Russians per say. It's much like the left who criticises Poland all the time, doesn't like the current government, not necessarily Polish people.
WielkiPolak   
31 Dec 2017
Off-Topic / American Jew Voice in Poland [93]

Yeah it makes sense. So you're white. So are Semites always white, or can they be non-white? That might then explain why some Jews say they are not white, although it wouldn't explain why they say they are not white, but Jewish, given that Jews, as yourself, can be white, so being Jewish doesn't necessarily stop you being white. I.e. you can be both.
WielkiPolak   
31 Dec 2017
Off-Topic / American Jew Voice in Poland [93]

Some people think that there's a Jewish race. This is xenophobic nonsense and must be set to rights.

Well as far as I was aware, Jewish can be a religion or an ethnicity or both. That's why some Jews are not religious, but still Jews, because they are ethnically Jewish. Being Polish is a nationality, so it is different, you are not ethnically Polish, although some might say you can be ethnically Slavic. My question was whether you as a Jew, consider yourself white? It seems that you have given your answer, that you do. As for it being xenophobic to consider Jews to be of the Jewish race, I have heard it said many times, even by Jews, and some Jews also don't consider themselves white [hence my question]. Or would you say being Jewish is a nationality? I never looked at it that way. The way I understood it, a nationality is that of the country you were born in - that's why many Jews consider themselves to be Polish Jews, because they are Jews, but they were born in Poland, so that is their nationality.

You are Jewish if you are born in Israel - nation run accordingly to the laws of Judaism - the very fundation of Jewish identity.

Are you sure about this? I always considered a person born in Israel, an Israeli [by nationality] and a person born in Palestine, a Palestinian [by nationality], wherever the boundaries of the two might be [that's a discussion for another time]. You can be born in Israel and not necessarily be Jewish, surely?
WielkiPolak   
30 Dec 2017
Off-Topic / American Jew Voice in Poland [93]

I think there is definitely a lot of hypocrisy in the Jewish community, but to assume that being a Jew makes you inherently evil obviously isn't fair. I mean, you can't just not like somebody for being Jewish or having a Jewish background, without knowing anything about them. Judge them not by their race, ethnicity or religion, but by their actions.

Having said that, I can see where people form this stereotype of the evil greedy racist Jew from. There are quote from rabbis who have said a lot of negative things about non-Jews. The most famous are probably those of Ovadia Josef, including 'Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world - only to serve the People of Israel' or 'Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created.'

But again, that doesn't make disliking Jews as a whole right. Many Jews say he doesn't speak for them. This is one rabbi. There are a few others who have said equally nasty things, but you could say the same for imams and others. Judaism and Islam do not have an overall leader who you can turn to for guidance. There are various spiritual leaders who say shocking things, but there are also others who counter those arguments and say they are wrong, and preach peace.

There are many Jews who demand that Poland pay for Jews who lost their homes during the war and so people think Jews are greedy and use the Holocaust for financial gain. There are also other Jews who don't believe Poland should pay anything.

On the topic of hypocrisy, here is this clip by a Jewish woman, who says Europe must be made multicultural in order to survive.

youtu.be/53A5AJoRxF0
[she talks at 0.38]

It begs the question about Israel. Multiculti for Europe but Israel only for the chosen people, right? Doesn't sound very fair.

But again, there are many [particularly right-wing] Jews who are against the idea of multiculturalism in Europe and taking in lots of immigrants. Jews don't think alike.

Back to the topic of the American Jew Voice in Poland. I too am concerned, or at least have my suspicions, about the very sudden heavy involvement of members of the Israeli government with PiS. Are they after something, or do they just want a good relationship and good business deals for both nations? Time will tell.

By the way Lyzko, as a Jew, do you consider yourself white, or Jewish or a white Jewish person? I ask because it seems that some Jews do not consider themselves white, but of the Jewish race.

youtu.be/mirL15zZYNc
WielkiPolak   
8 Dec 2017
Off-Topic / American Jew Voice in Poland [93]

What ever happened to Kijowski? You know the guy who wrote bogus invoices for computers and pocketed the cash,

youtube.com/results?search_query=kijowski+newsweek

He's unemployed and has apparently hit some really hard times, but some of his local supporters are supposedly doing a fundraiser for him, so he can pay his child support.
WielkiPolak   
7 Dec 2017
Off-Topic / American Jew Voice in Poland [93]

There's a difference between having excellent relations with the Jewish community, that I have no problem with, and having Jewish advisors and even advisors and former advisors of the Israeli government, telling the Polish government how to run their country.
WielkiPolak   
7 Dec 2017
Off-Topic / American Jew Voice in Poland [93]

More Zionist ass kissing from trump and our politicians. That's all

That's probably the only thing that disturbs me about PiS - all of a sudden after going in to power they have so many Jewish advisors around them, and the more Jewish advisors they have, the more you get the impression it serves Israel, not Poland.

Still, I'll take PiS over PO any day.
WielkiPolak   
6 Dec 2017
News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]

Poland's 'independent judiciary' shown here walking out of a meeting with PO politicians in July.

youtu.be/ZjczWWOMQYw

And some still wonder why PiS want to reform this corrupt mess.
WielkiPolak   
3 Dec 2017
News / Should Poland traitors face the death penalty? [105]

I've got the right to decide on the same basis as you do. And I vote in every election, even to the Rada Osiedla.

Reading that sends a shiver down my spine.
WielkiPolak   
3 Dec 2017
News / Should Poland traitors face the death penalty? [105]

I mean, WP, do you like the idea of someone who openly trains Muslims to wage war living in Poland? Be honest now.

I don't think Polish people ought to fear anybody who has trained any Muslim in the world. Some Muslims in certain parts of the world are viewed as allies, who can help in the fight against a far worse Islamic enemy.

Many for instance, believe that the western world should be supporting the Kurds, who themselves are fighting and trying to defeat ISIS.

Anyway, Islamic attacks should not be a concern for Polish people at this time, not if they are smart enough to keep the current government.
WielkiPolak   
3 Dec 2017
News / Should Poland traitors face the death penalty? [105]

Nope, you've openly admitting to arming Muslims. That puts you into conflict with Poland and Polish interests.

Britain sells weapons to Muslim countries too, so I suppose you'd say that puts them in conflict with Poland? The world is a complicated place.
WielkiPolak   
2 Dec 2017
News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]

1/ The march has only been going for about 10 years, so you're basically saying that it's always been a threatening event and an excuse to do drugs.

2/ If so many people are really so afraid of this march that they leave Warsaw, why were there so many families with young children taking part in this year's march? I didn't hear a single complaint from any of them about feeling unsafe.
WielkiPolak   
1 Dec 2017
News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]

it's not that anti-PiS opposition has more audience - it is quite debatable actually - it is that most media outlets are anti-PiS

Yeah that's what I meant - I suppose I was going on Ziemowit's info but that still needs to be checked. There are more anti-PiS than pro-PiS outlets. On TV, I would say there are three main channels people watch for news - TVP, TVN and Polsat. Two of those are anti-PiS and will stay anti-PiS, whether PiS are in government or not. TVP is currently pro PiS, but if they lose power, it will be anti-PiS again, so that changes depending on who wins the elections. So currently 2-1 against PiS. Other TV networks are too niche to be counted.

As for websites and printed press, there is perhaps more of a mix, but I still get the impression that the anti-PiS titles have more sales, such as Newsweek and Wprost. Gazeta Wyborcza was of course probably the biggest anti-PiS paper around for a while, although their sales seem to be dropping fast, hence the rumours of closure.
WielkiPolak   
1 Dec 2017
News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]

It's truly mind boggling to me that people still give a party like PO the time of day, after all the corruption and all the public money they have siphoned out, not to mention Tusk leaving the mess he made in Poland and running off to the EU and make big money. If he runs for president and wins, I will be stunned at just how stupid my Polish brothers and sisters can be. Or perhaps they're just forgetful? They have memories like a goldfish.

You say you prefer PO to PiS because at least they're not 'fanatical.' I think it's extremely fanatical to hate your own country and rob it and every turn. PiS might not get everything right, but at least they give a damn about their nation.

Anyway, why don't you name these fanatical things they are doing? Reforming a corrupt judicial system - is this fanatical? Or perhaps refusing to take in thousands of Muslim immigrants - wouldn't it be more fanatical to take them in, like PO agreed to do? How about trying to increase the falling Polish population by paying families for every child they have, to help them out - so fanatical. Much better to increase the population with foreigners from a different culture, right? Making big foreign businesses actually pay taxes to Poland - again, fanatical? Or this latest topic, giving people a free Sunday from time to time so they can actually spend time with their families - I mean how dare they? Not to mention that private small business will still be allowed to stay open, it's the big foreign owned supermarkets who make the average Joe [or Jakub in this case] work on Sundays, that will have to close on some Sundays. They really aren't trying to hurt the Polish population with this move, they are trying to help them. Whether you agree with every one of their moves or not, their intentions at least are good. This is more than can be said for PO.

Do Rzeczy is better, but is still behind Newsweek Polska, Wprost or Polityka which is in my view the best Polish weekly.

It would be interesting to see some sales statistics for these. For example, I'm not so sure Gazeta Polska is so niche. They sell papers around the world, not just in Poland, and have their own clubs all over Europe and in the USA.

But I agree with your overall point, that the press is pretty free in Poland and in fact it is still the anti-PiS opposition that has most of the audience in the media.