Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]


Korabl' is still the main word used for "ship" in Russian.


In Russian they would be spelt similar way. Like this


In Polish I guess the first variant is more proper.

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Obama is a first american president who understands what "diplomacy" really is.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]


Sounds like it's related to the word "fish" which is more or less similar in all Slavic languages - "ryba". "Fischer" would be in German. "Fisher" in English. "Rybakov" or "Rybkin" in Russian. That's a very popular last name in all the countries.

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Neither have I against Poles.


True. But their group is insignificant on the scale of all Ukranian nation and they stand apart of the rest of the nation. I equally respect Ukranians, Belorussians and Poles. There's no interest for me to say that exactly Belorussians are closer to Poles; this is just what I feel basing on my life experience and knowledge I've got. There's always room for mistake.

EDIT: I'm glad Slavs deal good with each other being abroad. :)

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Pennboy, different professors make different studies. Surfing the internet you may easily find two diametrically opposite points on the genetics which would contradict each other (I for one have recently found the article "Scratch Russian... get Pole" with a study for it). On the whole I don't tend to thoroughly believe in any of them since the often tied up with political intrigues. So I'm trying to base on the common sense: Ukranians are mostly dark-haired for many factors including early Tataric&Don-Sursk influence whereas Belorussians are mostly blond. The info you're asking about I learnt from the article written by Ukranian author who claimed that in fact there were only two Slavic nation: Belorussians and Poles. All others can be hardly reckoned as Slavic. I don't think it's any biased and I somewhat share it. Btw Belorussian (the initial one, not the current Russianized version of it) is closer to Polish than any other language. And even the current version is so close that Belorussian lady and her Polish husband doesn't strongly need to study each others language since they understand one another quite well.

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Kostia, privet!


His last name could have been transferred for several times. Afterall I wouldn't assert he's not any related to Poles. At least I found a couple links proving that (also see post#1 of this thread). What did you find?

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Belorussians are the closest to you. "The newest genetic study" you mentioned was likely to be about politics rather than real state of affairs.

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Russians are either friendly or don't give a sh!t about you... and the second option is what I'd worry about, if I were you Princy.


Uff... such a poor rhetoric... bad-bad Princy...

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


Says who?! :) They're only useful for yourself when you see there what you wanna see. :)

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Great times of the cheap gas (you meant gas, didn't you) are left behind. Now it's growing for citizens of Russia as well.


I agree in a way.


She did. Seriously, or elsewise you would suffer a stronger deficiency. The problem is that the route through Belorussia technically can't ensure needs of all customers.


Don't give me your bull. :)


Well... only if you want it. :)


I'm not trying to talk you into. I wouldn't really mind, if you didn't buy our gas and oil. In this case Russia will have to get back to her industry which is essentially my dream.

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Europe will anyway be dependent on somebody's natural resources, id est on some particular country. If not Russia then anybody else but I'm afraid that won't make them (resources) for you:

- cheaper
- guaranteed


You mean so-called gas conflict? I see the guilt of Russia there pretty slight comparing to Ukrainian one. However I don't deny Russia played some negative role in all that.

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Why do you like so much to compare some bygone superpowers with the actual state of affairs? Russia is not the USSR, Germany is not fascist anymore. Both are run not by Hitlers (Stalins). Why should you expect any surprise? You still at the times of Katyn... maybe that's the issue.

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Richy you merely don't undertand the ABC of a diplomacy. If two countries get along well why should they do anything bad towards each other?! In your case considering that all Polish foreign policy is based on opposing to Russia, do you think you have any reason to expect some nice attitude from our Gov-t back? I guess no...


And drive to Belorussia to fill your tanks up? Yes Russia is dominating... but isn't the prices they offer cheap? I would personally prefer to see our country not selling any resources abroad... so that you would "enjoy" the opportunity to check prices of other suppliers.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]


That's a lovely way to say "cabbage" in Russian (the regular way is "kapusta"). I think it has the same meaning in Polish but there's always a room for "false-friends". I'm afraid I can't say anything else on your name.


Even though there're lots of "Kapusta" and "Kapustka" in Russia I would look for the origins in Ukraine or Belarus or Krasnodarskij Kraj of Russia. Historically those are places where people have liked traditionally to pick as a last name some nouns, especially related to animals like "Volk" (wolf), Zajac (hare) etc. Considering the place you mentioned (Carpathian mountains) there's also an opportunity that your forefather might be Ruthenians (Rusini).

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Sofia Vasilyevna Korvin-Krukovski, a.k.a. Sofia Vasilyevna Kovalevskaya (Russian: Со́фья Васи́льевна Ковале́вская). (Moscow, January 15, 1850 - Stockholm, Sweden, February 10, 1891, aged 41 from influenza), was the first major Russian female mathematician, and also the first woman who was appointed to a full professorship in Europe in 1889 (Sweden). Her first name is sometimes given as Sonya.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofia_Kovalevskaya - Wiki in English
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zofia_Kowalewska - in Polish

Oleg Ivanovich Yankovsky (Russian: Олег Иванович Янковский; born February 23, 1944, Dzhezkazgan, Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic, USSR) is a Soviet/Russian actor who has excelled in psychologically sophisticated roles of modern intellectuals. In 1991, he became, together with Alla Pugacheva, the last person to be named a People's Artist of the USSR.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Yankovsky - Wiki in English

Btw he's 65 today. :)

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]


Interesting. :) In Russian bud is "pochka" and the second meaning of "pochka" is a kidney.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

In Russian doughnut is "ponczik" ("i" is like in "ditto"). I think it might be Polish or Jewish (PonczAk). Really few info about that last name in runet (it's not very popular in Russia). So Polish people should provide you with the better picture. :)

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Sounds like (Belo)russian for me. The most famous I know[
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Gershkovich

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]


It may be somehow related to the word "head". Just my guess. :)

Life / Which nations do Poles like the most / the least? [150]


It's the media of Polish democracy and freedom of speech.

Russia is on the top of the most liked... I'm sure Poles like us subconciously. :)

History / Famous Russian Poles [243]


Am I? :) Probably you're right... depending on what we call anti-Semitism. I'm not at all concerned about the genetical question, all I care about at that point is the turn of mind. In general and in most of cases Jewish turn of mind is not close to me. I don't accept it for myself. Neither it's close for those who we call "Slavs".


No more or I would better say less than any other folk. :)


I can't exclude that. As soon as I take DNA-test I'll provide you with the more precise data. Honestly I don't care, because my way of thinking defines my nationality rather than anything else.


You're right about the impact on us. Finally neither me nor anybody else can say how well it was. One however can be said for sure: there's no other nation that has ever perfomed such a bloodshed for Slavs as they did in the past century. Unfortunatelly it arose in Russia... I'm not surely gonna shift all the blame to Jews. Russians shouldn't have been that stupid to give a power to bolsheviks.


Have you ever thought of why Jews are the most hated nation ever?
Have you ever thought of why there's no definition of "antislavism" despite the fact that antislavism ideed exists and thrives?
Why haven't you ever thought of word "anti-Semitism" itself which purposely perverted and inacurate? As we all know semits are the large group of folks speaking semitic languages including some north-african tribes. Why not call that anti-Zionism which would be much better or at lest anti-Jewishness?

They need you to feel constantly embarrassed always guilt about something you've never done... meanwhile thanks to them my grandparents dispossessed and millions of Russians, Poles, Ukranians, Belorussians, Germans, Tatars, Caucasians etc... were shot.

Don't take it as if I stay away of Jews. Some who were brought up not in Zionistic (Zionism=Jewish fascism FYI) traditions are my friends. I'm open to them, but they're not always open to "goys"...

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Really hard to say since 1/6 of Russian population has ever had Polish ancestors. The last names with -iy ending is not considered typically Russian but they're pretty widespread.


That's ok. As for me I'm not the biggest fan of his creation. :)


Do you read that in Polish? I wonder if you have his poetry translated into Polish?


Kolia Gogol's considered Ukranian Russian writer. :) Sounds mutually exclusive. But that's the way it is... :)

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Haven't heard about it. Where did you read that?


If you like his books why not read him? Besides, is there any evidence of his "polonophobeness"? I haven't heard of it either. Neither have I about Chechov who was comedian and that would be quite weird to learn of his dislike of any nation...

As for Lermontov I heard only of "Scottish" version.

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There're lots of them of British and Germanic tribe. But this fact doesn't make them relate to those categories. Most of them live not in Israel but in the US. This doesn't make them Americans either... Jews are jews.

Their impact particularly in the last century on Russian history was... let's put it "ambiguous". That's probably why many Russians have mixed feelings about that...


That's a profound thought. :)

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I called him a "Russophobe" implied that his reasoning on Russia has never had anything with reality. Nowadays US is the agressor as the USSR used to be with the only difference that their "Poles" are Serbs, Iraquies etc... Quite hypocritically of you that you support them (to say nothing that it's not very smart).


With all respect... Jews are not Russians.

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Szkliarski Edmund Mechislavovich/Шклярский Эдмунд Мечиславович (26 September 1955, Leningrad, the USSR)
Poet, musician, composer, artist, has also a degree in building of atomic boilers, considered as one of the fathers of so-called "Russian rock". The most famous representative of "psychodelic rock" in Russia. The leader of famous Russian rock-band "Piknik" (Picnic) URL.

Speaks Polish and Russian, sing in Russian but some say he has some songs in Polish (I haven't heard of any though).
His personal blog: qazimodo.ru/blog
The example of his painting:



Video:

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God knows. :) Typically Russian invention. Even in Serbian and Czech it's the same name very seldom... But anyway I heard them using those names as diminutive for Alexander.

The Polish name I'm really interested in is Zbiegnew. It doesn't seem to have any analogy in other languages. What does it mean? What're the origins?

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This is like affectionate diminutive. Full names are different... Konstantin, Alexander, Evgeniy, Ivan. Sasha and Zhenia could be both female and male btw. Answering why so... well... maybe because Russians in general are very kind (and modest) nation. ;)

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Prince if I were you, I'd better start with the mention of so-called smuta and guys like Minin&Pozharski.


You don't seem to get my PM in Russian. :) Fortnatelly or not this's the way things go. Russia is a big and multiethnical. One may be against despot rulers two others may be for. However I believe things are to change in the next 20-30 years.


Starina Zbiggi is a blatant Russphobe working for another Empire. I wouldn't state his opinion as something worthy on should strain ears for.

I like Bulgakov too. His Master&Margarita is one of my favourites. Do you read him in the original? I just thought it could be not easy...

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Russians themselves have never collaborated with anybody against Poles. The head of it did though. As for common Russians that was usually represented for them as if it was "liberation". For instance till 90th my father'd known only one version of Katyn: "Germans killed 'em all". To some extent this kind of thinking is rightful... at least not one-sided. In fact nobody knows what would be with Poland if the USSR didn't interfere.


I'm after friendly relationship with Poles firstly and with Poland secondly. I've never been taught as if Poles some hostile nation for us. One always has a right not to fall into propoganda trap. Why not use it?!

EDIT: I want to show that Poles contributed a lot to get Russia where it is right now, to show that Russia is essentially a big international game where Poles played a huge part.


There're many monuments devoted for Poles in Russia.


I don't speak Polish but if you follow the Polish link in wiki on Przevalski's personality the fact of his "polishness" is cast in doubt (as far as I got it using my knowledge of Russian). It's only one of versions right there...