Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

If guns do become legal in pl I def want a good polish or czech (usually modern soviet versions) handgun or rifle. A lot of older generation poles esp in the country often have shotguns for hunting and home defense.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

@faithfulpilgrim

The owicz or even more specifically the wicz or icz bc if it were Russian it would be anglicized to vich. There are no w's in Russian they instead use a v which is written like the letter b. Also there's no cz instead it's ch which is written as like an upside down h. The wicz ending is popular in pl and more often than not denotes polish stock.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

@johnny reb

Actually a lot of americans are greedy. Not just for money but knowledgde, technological advacement that's why we're number 1 and we can even buck the un security council at will and have numerous times before

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

@Johnny
Of course it all stretches back to their defeatism. Uk went from being basically the U.S. of its time to being just another western European country. It's less significant than russia, china, and even Germany now. These idiots managed to hand political and economic power to the losers of ww2 and let germans dictate what laws Brits should follow. And you expect them to have a culture that promotes self defense rofl? Like I said, they have generals who weak skirts... that alone speaks volumes... They're just jealous because the us became what the UK use to be.

US has largest economy, largest military, most world renowned unis, most millionaires and billionaires,
and of course the 2nd best leader in the world, after putin, Donald trump.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

Street cops don't even have guns in England lol and besides there is quite a bit of shootings in uk esp London in certain areas not to mention terror attacks. For christ sakes they had a general who wore skirts. They're not qualified to speak on thus topic

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Exactly. The Mauritanians do it - that's their culture... Not to mention child labor where kids work with their parents (like I did) which is practiced the world over and not seen as a wrong - like in Indian or Pakistani society for example.

A gun is a physical object not a person or even an action. Same with drugs, alcohol, etc - if you're not into it that's your opinion. The vast majority of people who buy guns legally buy them for self defense, hunting, target shooting, etc. There will always be a deranged person who slips under the radar and is able to purchase a gun legally and then commits a massacre. However, they could have also just as easily purchased an illegal gun. The fact remains that the vast majority of gun crimes and homicides are not caused by people who legally purchased a gun but rather criminals (mostly young urban blacks with latinos in 2nd place) who purchased guns illegally.

The US citizens have decided in their constitution and up to today that they are willing to put up with a certain level of gun crime committed by legal gun owners for other legal owners to carry them - the main reason why that is is because the vast majority of murders and gun crimes are committed not by people who are legal gun owners, but illegal owners like gang members, criminals, etc. The level of gun crime coming from gangs, cartels, and even teenaged street criminals is far greater than those committed by a crazy guy who purchased a gun legally. We have decided as citizens that we wish to protect ourselves from these gangs, street criminals, etc. and have a right to bear arms.

Also, there's bad apples in every organization, country, race, creed, etc. Adam Lanza happened to be the NRA's. However, the vast majority of NRA members who own guns are law abiding US citizens who purchased their guns legally.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

If you don't like guns, don't own one... but don't bother people who legally want to buy a gun...

News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [669]

@SigSauer

The Russians, namely Kremlin, will either demonize or praise Stalin and USSR during Stalin's time when it suits them. Beating the Nazis - Stalin and Georgians good. 2008 - Stalin and Georgians are all evil!

Even now with the October Revolution anniversary, the Kremlin didn't really pull out all the stops for parades and rallies and all that like they do for Victory Day.

Ever since oil prices collapsed, Putin has used external threats - NATO, 5th column liberal Russians, Georgia, Ukraine, etc to garner support amongst the Russian populations. Russians genuinely love him though - he has 80%+ approval ratings and that's according to US sources not Kremlin ones.

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]

@SigSauer

The only reason why NJ is alive is because of its proximity to NY and the hard working immigrants that have been living there for generations - Italians, Poles, Irish, etc. Some cities in NJ like Trenton and Newark are straight bombed out like hoods in Chicago. But the laws are more strict. They even made an equivalent to 'driving while black' but for whites... its called 'loitering with intent' (intent to purchase drugs that is.... they believe why else would a white guy be in the hood lol)

USA, Canada / Poles Living in the Chicago Area [343]

@chaser79

The best place to meet other Poles is up and down Belmont. There's a few decent clubs where the crowd is mostly Poles esp Stereo, Martini Bar and the infamous now closed Jedynka. Sound Bar is also popular amongst younger Poles.The Polish girls that come are more beautiful hands down than the US girls. They're smart, sexy, tall, skinny but nice curves, blonde/brunette with blue eyes, wearing black dresses and spiked heels. Many of the FOB and 1st gen Poles who are fluent in Polish like myself have since moved to the suburbs due to the high crime, taxes, traffic, etc of the city - especially families. Nonetheless there is quite a few that remained in the old Polish strongholds like Jefferson Park, up and down Belmont, Harlem and Irving, southside, pockets of Niles, Norridge, Park Ridge, etc., Polish triangle, and a few others. Also, a lot come to the Polish hotspots whether its clubs, delis, supermarkets, cafe's, restaurants, often especially on the weekends. You can find Polish owned businesses from the south side to downtown to the north shore.

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]


Im not aware of the overall US statistics with justifiable homicide. What I do know is that in my city which happens to be the murder capital of the US, only about 12% of murders, are 'cleared' meaning the suspect is arrested, the shooting was justified as self defense, the shooting was a suicide, or it was a cop shooting a perp. The remaining 88% are not 'cleared' meaning no suspect is arrested.

In 2017, out of over 500 homicides the numbers break down as follows:

Legal Outcome
Homicides
No Suspect Charged 506
Suspect Charged 71
Police-Involved 10
Self-Defense 10
Murder-Suicide 4

Most of these murders 500 are committed by gangs with guns that were purchased illegally. The remaining self-defense, police involved, etc are mainly murders committed by legal gun owners. Almost all of these 500 murders were committed in majority black areas like the west side and south side with a mixed Hispanic/black/white neighborhood coming in 5th most deadly. A black neighborhood can easily have 300+ shootings, 25-75 murders a year while on the white north side it's a shock when there's just 1 murder.

Out of all murders in Chicago, 78% are by blacks, 17% by Hispanics, and the remainder are police/white/unknown.

Like the famous web celebrity Tj Sotomayor (who is a black Panamanian says): Don't ban guns, ban n1ggers...

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]

Well of course blacks and arabs aren't going to fly the confederate flag.... Muslims instead fly the black standard - a flag that has the shahada/takbir (Allah Akbar as in modern Iraq) written on it was used during Muhammed and the following caliphates brutal conquest of 'kuffars' where they raped, pillaged, and murdered anyone who refused to submit to Islam - much like they're doing now in Europe. The same flag was used by ISIS as well as modern Arab states which have incorporated parts of the black standard onto their national flag - Saudi Arabia, iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Malaysia, Mauritania, etc. that's why so many Arab countries have combinations of black/green/red/white on their flag and will display Islamic symbols on their national flag whether it's the shahada, takbir, a crescent, etc.

I'd rather see these symbols on toilet paper or a floor mat, but that's just me...

As far as blacks/Africans, they have a variety of flags... some denote nationalism, some have communist emblems, some historic African emblems, some religious, just depends on the country... Mozambique even has an AK-47 on its flag and a very commie era looking coat of arms...

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]


Well, since 2001 there have been over 30,000 terror attacks (amount of attacks, not fatalities) around the world. How many attacks have Buddhists/Christians/Hindus/Jews combined committed? Couple dozen? Maybe a couple hundred? Certainly not tens of thousands though... To this day, not a week goes by that Islamic fundamentalists do not attempt to kill Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists explicitly in the name of Allah.

This is the same Taliban that is gradually being recognized as a legitimate government...
khaama.com/taliban-chop-off-elderly-womans-limbs-before-murdering-her-in-helmand-03718
Allah Akbar!

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]


It's actually mostly young black men that are both victim and perp and that's a fact. Recently a Chicago magazine (I forgot if it was the trib or sun times) compiled a sort of collage of all the deaths since 2001 - which was more than the amount of Americans that died in both Afghanistan and Iraq combined. If you look at the photos of the victims, its well over 90% young black and Hispanic men. It's the same scenario in every major city with the exception that in some cities the rate of Hispanic homicide victims/perps is a larger proportion.


I can't speak for all conservative US males but as a former democrat and centrist, the ridiculous multi-kulti far left PC agenda that resembles the same sort of socialism my family escaped from is what has pushed myself and many men like me to the right. Not insecurity. In the 90's and early 2000's people preached tolerance and respect - now that's no longer enough. Now you're forced to not only tolerate but also like things that are contrary to your own values, morals, religion, etc... and if you don't wildly clap and applaud hordes of migrants cutting into razor wire to illegally enter European countries or trannies who use locker rooms and bathrooms based on 'what they identify with' because their ego and sense of entitlement is more important than the uneasiness and discomfort of everyone else around them... well you're considered a racist/homophobe/etc...

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]


All the massacres by white people in the US and Europe combined over the past 30 years doesn't even compare to the fatalities caused by 9/11 alone - not to mention all the other Islamic terror attacks in France, UK, Spain, Belgium, Germany, USA, etc.

Most Muslims, with the exception of the few who wish to work, assimilate, and follow the laws and customs of their host nations (the Turks and Kurds for example don't seem to have much of an issue assimilating), are INCOMPATIBLE with Western civilization and liberal ideologies.

You fail to realize that Islam, even in a so called 'moderate' form, is an aggressive religious/political ideology developed over 1k years ago that seeks to implement Sharia law and Islam in every country of the world by FORCE and greatly decrease the rights of women, religions other than Islam, gays, etc. Those who resist converting to Islam are to be killed or extorted (jizya tax). You fail to understand that Muslims HATE the liberal western secularism of Western Europe and are using your own PC far left liberalism against the citizens of the country. The West preaches tolerance and the Muslims have taken advantage of that by spewing a hateful, supremacist political and religious ideology.

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]

Back on topic: Red Pilled Austria:

Nationalists are taking over baby - we're not going to let Eastern Europe be cucked, forced to take down crosses because they offend non-citizen Muslims, have our women raped, have our countrymen massacred by the religion of peace, or any of this other bs.

TIDE TURNING? Slap in face for Juncker as Austria appoints anti-EU Foreign Minister
express.co.uk/news/world/876490/european-union-austria-sebastian-kurz-coalition-government-norbert-hofer-foreign-minister
telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/16/austria-joins-eus-new-right-wing-eastern-bloc-set-confront-franco
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-15/austria-shifts-to-right-in-election-that-empowers-nationalists

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]


Yes, Poles continue to be welcoming of Asians, Indians, Ukranians, Belarussians, Italians, etc. However, even in 2015 they were firmly against accepting migrants - hence PO's loss and record low popularity - less than half of PiS

Perhaps if the migrants and Muslims behaved better they'd be more accepted and less vilified. However, Muslims time and time again refuse to speak out against the rapes of European women, they don't condemn the Charlie Hebdo attacks- most Muslims still believe that in Europe people who caricature Muhammed should be killed - that is totally against the European values of free speech which Muslim migrants REFUSE to accept. Same thing with equality for women. They hate these ideals yet naïve liberals keep supporting them and apologizing for all the problems Muslim migrants have caused.

It's the same way with blacks in the us. the reason why normal law abiding blacks get pulled over by cops far more than whites is because so many blacks are involved in drug dealing ang street gangs. It's the same with Muslims in Europe. Europe has seen innumerable terrorist attacks, rapes, crimes, 2 year state of emergency in france, countless riots, economic problems like spending 100k a day to house migrants on a cruise ship, etc. so naturally when Poles, Austrians, Hungarians, Czechs, etc see all that happening in Western Europe they don't want to take the risk of having the same kind of things occurring in their own country.

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]

@Harry

Yes and there are far more violent Muslims than europeans, chinese, brits, indians, etc. Hence why Muslims are responsible for the majority of the terror attacks, rapes, murders, etc in europe

Also the new New testament has little violence. The old testament describes wars, political intrigue, etc. The new New testament does not have the sort of vengeful God like thr old.

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]

You're blaming the european people for being reactionary? They're not being ignorant. Quite the opposite they're no longer naive nor do they care anymore about being called racist bc that word has been totally worn out. Europeans are seeing the civilizations being threatened by Muslims and the unelected pc pushing commisars who protect them along with the German cow Merkel. Why is it that Buddhists Jews atheists Ukrainians poles Hungarians orthodox literally no other religion or culture or country in europe commits nearly the same level of death, terror, rape, crime, years long states of emergency quite like Muslims do? What other religion is killing 20k 30k people a year in the name of their God? Do christians say praise jesus after massacring a dozen people? Just last week in NYC one of religion of peaces finest drove a truck into a crowd chanting Allah akbar and asking for an Isis flag to be hung above his hospital bed. They ought to let the survivors torture that pr1ck.

Also sig the amount of genders is double - 72 according to the safe space crybabies at university of Michigan and other unis.

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]

@Harry

Most of them are 7rh century barbarians, or stleast have beliefs and values counter to the western liberalism. Islam is an aggressive supremacist violent ideology. No other religion seeks to implement it's religious teachings by force all over the world and extort or kill those who refuse. Pick up a Koran if you don't believe me. In Morocco and other north african/arab countries young men 'practice' on donkeys and sheep bc they believe it will make their pecker longer and will make them a better husband to whatever teenage bride, up to four brides depending on husbands wealth, they end up marrying.

We Poles don't want them in Poland it's that simple. It appears czechy Austria Hungary Slovakia the Baltic etc aren't to keen on them either. Our countries our decision. Like our politicians say - in poland, poles make the decisions.

If it was educated Muslim families coming to work and assimilate it wouldn't be as much of a problem but it's the lazy dregs of Muslim societies coming

Law / Work permit + national visa in Poland for India citizen [91]

@mafketis

In wealthy gulf nations like uae Kuwait etc the citizens who are a minority out of thr total population tend to work government or business jobs. They typically only work like 5 hours or so a day. The hard work is done by foreigners and other people.

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]

Claude juncker biatch timmermans cries uncle rofl:
express.co.uk/news/world/876415/Poland-European-Union-Frans-Timmermans-judicial-reform-rule-of-law

Unelected eu commission deputy: Oh please pis you're already soo powerful please listen to us don't ignore us oh please
Pis: in Poland, it's Poles who decide about Poland.

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Absolutely... hell Poland is even looking at economic ties with Turkey and Iraq lol. It's more evident than ever that despite Poles wishing to stay in the EU for economic reasons, we are increasingly concerned about EU's political dictates into how we should manage home affairs inside our sovereign internationally recognized borders. It's not just Poland either. Germany and Merkel's acceptance of migrants have effectively divided the European continent into those countries West of Germany (including Germany) having tons of migrants and demanding that others 'share the burden' to those countries East of Germany like Poland, Austria, Czechy, Slovakia, Hungary, etc who are rejecting forced acceptance of migrants.

If Merkel wouldn't allowed hundreds of thousands of migrants to come into Germany and other countries, or even before that helped Italy and Greece as well as Libya and Turkey to patrol the seas which no one wanted to do and PREVENT those migrants from going further north (refugees are required to claim asylum in the first SAFE country they're in - not travel through 6-7+ countries before they reach the welfare state of their choice), the EU would not be divided like it is today. It's that simple... we don't care this isn't our problem. These people need to go back and rebuild their own countries instead of leeching off the far wealthier and more developed Europeans' societies.... kind of like how Poland did after being annihilated in ww2 despite having no funds from the west and were the ones to first to depose the commies (only to have them join modern political parties later unfortunately and be paid retirement by PL taxpayers).

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]


50 euro per head per day is no small sum... Like I said, if the Swedes decided to do that, fine. But we Poles do not want to host migrants in hotels, cruise ships, camps, etc. We have other concerns. We don't want them here in the first place let alone our taxes to pay for them to fart into a mattress all day long because they're too lazy to get a job. 3/4 of Poles reject migration from ME and Africa. We won't be forced into accepting something the vast majority of Poles is against.

Also, it costs 30k-40k USD a year to lock up a prisoner... its the same thing as giving a migrant food, housing, etc. Only difference is that the migrants aren't in a jail but instead in hotels, cruise ships, camps, and even old luxurious castles where they complain the free WIFI is too slow and the food isn't up to their standards...


Meant ancestors... Again, our ancestors built and fought for Poland for Poles - not for Muslims to come in and spread Islam while Polish people pay for their food, housing, and stipends.


Well, in a way they have a point. If I were a Brit I'd be pissed too that hundreds of thousands of Poles came in. However, they eventually lightened up to Poles as they see Poles assimilate, generally don't cause problems, don't rape women, WORK HARD - unlike the muslims, and contribute to the society. We don't cause terror attacks. That's why even the EDL embraces Polish immigrants. Also, Poles fought for UK during WW2

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]


Germany, France, and Sweden took hundreds of thousands of migrants in. That was their decision. Poland didn't want to, Po agreed to take in a few thousand and Poles wilL NEVER forgive them for kowtowing to the EU. That is why their level of support is LESS THAN HALF of PiS and won't recover anytime soon. 3/4 of Poles don't want them in our country, and we're not going to be like Sweden paying $100k A DAY to house migrants on a cruise ship.... The people who are coming to Germany are overwhelmingly young economic migrants mixed in with foreign fighters and families. It's too big of a risk for Poland to take them in. Besides, even the few Poland did take in they ended up leaving anyway. We prefer to take in Ukrainians who have a more similar culture, religion, and do not mow people down with vans, cause rapes to skyrocket, and cut off our soldiers' heads in the street.

Polish politicians are meeting with Iraqi politicians to discuss how the geopolitical situation is going to play out now that the war with ISIS is almost over. Poland and Hungary stated that they can invest in these countries to stem the flow of migrants and stop the brain drain. If we allow everyone to come to Europe soon half of Africa and ME will be knocking on our doors.

Poles and EU citizens have the right to enjoy Polish society. Migrants and middle easterners who are not EU citizens do not unless they are given residency/citizenship. If other countries want to give them residency or EU citizenship, that's up to them. Those people can come to Poland if they want as a EU citizen but its up to us who to let into our borders, put under surveillance if they think they may be a threat, and give PL citizenship.

Poland was created and fought for with millions of lives by our descendants for Poles to enjoy - not for some young dude from Africa or the middle east to live off our welfare, expect us to provide him with housing, food, etc. No, this country is first and foremost for Poles. As we Poles say, nasz kraj, nasze zasady - our country, our rules/way of life.

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]


Doubt it. Poles overwhelmingly reject forced migration from ME and Africa. We have no problem with taking in Ukrainians, Indians, etc that wish to assimilate and work. We are not interested in people who don't want to and wish to espouse their aggressive Islamic ideology. Many Muslims will tell you straight up that they wish to have Islam and sharia law in every country around the world. We don't want such people in Poland. There's plenty of other countries they can go to.

The fact that Poland only pays 80 euro or so a month for welfare has been one of our biggest blessings. Poland took in some 1k Iraqi/Syrian Christians and most of them immediately left for Germany because they didn't want to work and the welfare was too small. Very few remained, assimilated, and sought work in Poland.

The whole relocation quota is complete bs anyway. Last time I checked only 300-400 or so (around a year ago I believe it was) migrants have been relocated out of the 160k. They haven't been able to relocate even 10k migrants across the countries who are willing to host them in about 2 years - 1/16th of the total 160k number. How long is this supposed to take? Decades?


Accepting non EU citizens into our borders was never part of EU policy till the migrant crisis came along. Poland abides by 99% of all EU rulings - there are certain things that are a red line for us.


Oh they've really 'made it' rofl. Thanks to Merkel, the AfD is now a popular main stream party stealing seats from the parties who give preference to the needs of non-citizens who only came to Germany thanks to generous welfare over German citizens.


Then they shouldn't of allowed hundreds of thousands of migrants to come in and give them housing, food, and money then demand other countries help out once Germany realized inviting in hundreds of thousands of unvetted mostly young men from a vastly different culture who have caused tons of crime, terror, rape, economic hardship, etc. was a bad idea.

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]


Interesting... just opened the article... never heard of the Mari before

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]

Well the red pilled Czechs have also chosen a populist Euro skeptic anti migrant party

Eastern Europeans see the migrant problem as a mainly German problem, not ours.

theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/21/czech-billionaires-ano-party-set-to-win-elections-andrej-babis

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]


My dad is like that and some members of his family. Most Poles are fair skinned, light eyed (usually blue, sometimes brown/green), and hair color running the gambit from almost white blonde to dark brown to a cherry red. However, there is quite a few Poles that have darker skin - and not just the Gypsies. I honestly think that this may be a remnant of the golden horde invasion into the lands and some genes remaining. Some Poles have almost like central Asian skin colored - the sort of darker golden hue you're referring to. I don't know how much research into all the different halpogroups in PL and where they originate from has been done. The most common R1a/R1a1 though is supposed to be from India/Iran areas

News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]


USA also suffers from extreme 'organized' crime - mainly in the form of street gangs - much of whom are latino and/or black which are the main ones driving up the murder rate - regardless of the state and their gun laws... same as in Honduras mexico etc where gun laws are strict but illegal guns plentiful... same thing with the Philippines where many illegal guns are made in jungles and then shipped to markets


Depends which European country. Guns are easily accessible in many Slavic/Balkan countries and there is lax control in places like czechy, switerland, and high rates of gun ownership yet far less crime. Even despite the presence of organized crime in places like Ukraine, Serbia, Bulgaria, etc. and a lot of guns there aren't all that many shootings.


The four extremists (pretty low rank, extremist migrants) were able to get their hands on an AK... its very to easy to do in the SEZ's in the migrant SEZ type hoods... The average criminal or lone wolf can print a 3d AR-15 that will disintegrate after some 100 rounds... not to mention buy a gun illegally whether from their local hood or through a deep web tor site which is very easy to do as weapons are the 2nd largest black market after drugs... or convert one from a legal no license required bobby pistol .. even a low level weed dealer keeps a 22 or 9 by the bed..