Life / Do you know these characters from Polish movies? [223]

Yes Pawian. That must be Ogniem i mieczem.
The character....? Don't remember.....some Polish Sczlachta dude I suppose....
Dirk or johnny would tell you. After all, they are such great Polish patriots.....or did I mean, nationalists - not the same thing, I know, but I am sure they would know.

Life / Do you know these characters from Polish movies? [223]


Must be Henryk Sienkiewicz then shirley?

Food / What Polish foods and brands do you miss when you go to other countries? [216]


Jesus man! You were banging on about how food prices in Poland are so low compared with the rest of Europe. Make your bloody mind up!

Note to Mods. This is NOT abuse. The above is jokey British English banter, and our language came first:)


Excellent johnny. I'm sure the Krauts stole pickled cabbage from the Poles. On the other hand, Polish sausage is now officially total rubbish (unfortunately I still eat it because it's a vice)

I'm old enough to remember when Polish cold cuts were the best in the world, bar none. Those days are gone for ever, because money talks and curing time is no longer followed, even with the "premium" foods.

As for "parowka" - scientests have linked that to cancer. For God's sake people, avoid that rubbish.

Life / Do you know these characters from Polish movies? [223]


Who? The red sash is interesting....I initially thought it was Stanislaw Poniatowski.....last king of Poland

Life / Owning a house in true countryside of Poland - stories [648]


Demolition. A pity, but no longer fit for purpose.

Life / Owning a house in true countryside of Poland - stories [648]

Really nice Pawian. Super colour. Can I ask if you insulated it and do you pay neighbours to watch it for you?
Wifey's property on the other hand isn't in such good condition and needs some work:)

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Travel / What is the weather like in Poland where you are now? [202]


I agree. The grass in Dabrowa Gornicza was trashed. After grafting with the scythe for 5 days I felt ready to be carried off to hospital through heat stroke. No appreciable rain there for yonks.

Study / Various education and school issues in Poland. Opinions, stories, controversies. [940]

Pawian, the answer is no. There are two contrasting factors that I can identify:
1. The class 1 scenario: Parents have lost touch with their children, parents are too "busy" and leave their children to their own devices (literally) or tell them that they will carry on the family business, whatever that may be....

2. The class 2 scenario: Parents either dominate the offspring to follow them, regardless of talent, or encourage their children to mediocrity.

It's not a Polish phenomenon. The answer is, as you hint, in empowerment, not in regulation teaching from the chalkface, with rows of tables. The fault is squarely with the ministry of education. They are living in the 1960's.

Travel / What is the weather like in Poland where you are now? [202]

Great. Torrential rain non stop here in Tri City for 3 days until yesterday. It's apity the Soviets couldn't change the weather as they tried to do. Property prices here are a joke when the summer only lasts for 3 months and is interrupted by 14 degree spells.

News / PiS candidates are losing positions in EU Parliament. Will they keep power in Poland? [358]


Excellent candidate and a shoe in. You don't like her because she will follow unswervingly in Junckers' footsteps and prevent American domination of Europe. And she will hold the Union together, and it looks ever more likely that will include the UK.

Admittedly she is softer than Junker because the Poles back her. Interesting.

That will stop the Yanks dirty little plan to divide and dominate.

Travel / What is the ugliest city or town in Poland? [89]

I don't know. Any northern British town, bar Edinburgh, food and drink for student types or young grads/old boys like me is far cheaper pound for pound.

Poland - the new rip-off destination. For those who don't know what they're doing.

Travel / What is the ugliest city or town in Poland? [89]


I had the misfortune to spend today there. OK for the banker corporates, but an expensive rat race ******** for everyone else.
Any redeeming features?

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]


Kamieniczy...

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]


There's no excuse for it in 2019 kaprys. Government should be held to account ( probably they just pay the fines - taxpayers' money is cheap) Of course you need to retain core centres of old mining towns - but not kilometre after kilometre after kilometre of busy roadside bloody buildings from the early 1900s that no-one in their right mind would rent.

They are not fit for purpose, and in any real democracy regeneration or return to brown field, ultimately to greenery, is what should be happening. Enforced by legislation too.



I thought I made it clear I was referring to successive Polish governments, who simply pass the inner city housing probelm to the next administration, and act as though the widespread slums don't exist. It is they for whom "There is no concern."

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]


There is no concern


Dear oh dear. South catholic coal blighted Katowice The only reason people still live there is:
a) Work in the local coal mine, and that's dying fast.
b) It's cheap. And families can't escape, or through miner heritage pride, don't wish to.
My view is that a lot of buildings should be condemned (maybe not there, but whole swathes of Chorzow stary, Bytom, Swietoclowice.....) You don't ask the population to move - you legislate for them to move. The buildings are slums according to WHO guidelines. Nothing to preserve; they're not even historically old.

AS for Nikiszowiec....those flats are not healthy though and nobody would wish to live there through choice so please stop lauding such places as something to be proud of. I have 2 or 3 books and DVDs of Nikiszowiec and Giszowiec - both areas are tatty and poverty stricken to put it mildly and who is going to pour money into a historic housing scheme of what are now basically slums.The first named properties were amazing homes for the miner of the 1920s, who for the first time had the marital bedroom, and also a separate room for his children, as well as bathrooms for some. But for today? Even the second named, which was a garden suburb of self sustainability in the 1920s when it was built is now surrounded by miner co-operative blocks and is just another urban blight.

Clear the bloody lot, and start again. Kazimerz Kutz and others live in a museum like world, but in the meantime,in todays# world of cost cutting and public accountabilitym a working class hero is not something to be.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]


Yes. Done that. If they are shite holes it is because of the residents and their behaviour, not necessarily because of housing what was originally provided.

A great many Polish inner cities have large districts which are a health hazard and need demolishing.
Any other argument is spurious and suggests you have never spent any time in those areas or experienced at first hand the archaic or dangerous conditions people have to live in.

Government responsibility, for condemning areas is governmental legal responsibility, but instead they waste money on populist handouts.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]

There are a collective tens of kilometres of the bloody things Kaprys. What are you going to do - renovate them all?
Nottingham demolished it's slums 50 years ago. Because they were slums and dangerous to health. And those streets aren't?
Been there, spent time there. Absolute brick shite holes nd not legal 20th century conditions.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]


I did. Three city.
Warsaw is to blame for the shocking living standards in Slask. The European Union really need to step in and enforce condemned areas for demolition because the local government seems to think the slums should be protected as some form of skansen.

Quite shocking and probably illegal.


I did have some humour - but why wouldn't things radically improve in the 30 years I have been in and around Silesia? How much time do these city planners need to start improving localities? I fail to see the joke.

Only wholesale demolition of whole areas will do.


You portrayed yourself as superior to african immigrants. What makes you so much "better" than them?
The board is waiting.
Racist scum are not welcome in Britain. Why not come back here and join your chums in small town nationalist Poland?

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]


Yeah - again one immigrant thinking she is better than other immigrants because of racism.
You really are a disgusting individual.


As you well know, I was not referring to communist tower blocks - which I clearly said were a massive improvement on what came for before for the masses.

Working class areas of terraced housing built in the 1880s and into the 20th century. It's called Slask.
Stop being a boring patriot. A lot of these properties need to be condemned and demolished for they are slum housing. That includes 20 percent of Bytom, Ruda slaska and Katowice.

Of course Poland has no history of inner city regeration and will continue to deny the realities of whole districts of neglected and ruined housing stock. Eventually the European Union has to come down hard on Poland for it's lack of care to its citizens.

I know a fukk of a lot more about Slask than you do, having lived in the area for 20 years. It really is a shitthole, and yet you condone it?

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]


To be fair to the communists, tower blocks were only designed for 50 years according to state documents. The blocks were a reaction to the shocking state of housing that came before that - some of which my wife's great grandfather built as a slum landlord. They are still tenanted today. That is the real crime, that in 2019 a relatively large population is still living in what should simply be condemned housing - and the government are likely breaking all sorts of environmental laws by making the legal process avery long road to grant condemned status to present day owners of such buildings (because the state refuses to re-house such tenants)

Instead of attacking the real problems, they fukk about with 500 zl handouts.In short, life in tower blocks isn't so bad for some. The price of such is an unbelievable 8,000 sq metre in some areas here - which does beggar belief. The real slums are those built before the 1960s. And successive Polish governments are powerless to do anything to demolish them.

Life / How do Polish people treat their animals? [33]

A neighbour kicked my dog when he was a pup.
I've been waiting for 5 years now, for a good moment when I can creep up behind him with a piece of 4 by 4.

Life / How do Polish people treat their animals? [33]


There was a woman in Britain (Leicester) who was caught on CCTV a few years ago putting a cat in a rubbish bin. She was prosecuted and the council had to rehouse her in a different town with a new name because the locals were going to string her up.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]


Sorry pal. We had Wojciech from Plock staying with us in the 1960s, and a great lad he was too. I was 10 at the time and he was 18, and like some sort of God. He taught me to swim the front crawl. He had two pounds in his pocket for the 3 months and probably is retired now with a pension. All I remember was hating the system that made him so meek and humble, or should I say brow-beaten.

Yes - that was the third world as it was known to be back then. Dont try to deny it. For the property owning families who survived the war and who refused the 1970s party card it was nothing short of a nightmare.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]


They've engaged in war for centuries too. The European Union excludes that possiblity though I daresay the nationalists will have their day and start murdering innocents once more. That day has simply been delayed and just maybe the good people who want no part of it can escape - say to Sweden - which has a sad history of conscientious objection and therefore is morally reprehensible also..we're doomed, I tell ya!

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]


Dirk, you are being a dick again. Your father was a "turd worlder", but the Yanks took him in. And I way prefer a land with some foreign voices in it to a lifeless, staid, unchanging world like small town Poland. You can always retire there if that's what you want when you're old.

Except you wont. Not in a million years will you want to coexist with those (poor) catholic bigots. But you seem to think that is something to aspire to - because you've never had to suffer their ignorance.

Why not try it - and report back to the board with your findings?
LOL.

Life / Child abuse in Poland [64]


The other way round Rich. Kids are innocent. Adults are not.

Life / Child abuse in Poland [64]


No. Better to address the cause. Do I not speed when the penalty is increased? No - I pay more attention to what I can see in the mirror. The same applies here.

Quite hopeless and outmoded shite. All we get here is Jonny trying some shite, trying to pin child abuse on immigrants. Quite rightly shut off by the Mods and he should be banned for such racist filth.

Life / Child abuse in Poland [64]


..to call 112.

Life / Child abuse in Poland [64]


Empty words. Devout parents send accusatory letters to the bishop, not to the police. It's tradition for catholics to respect their priest, but Poles take this way too far to the realms of neglect of parental responsibility. So they write to the bishop, and internal machinations take over. Such letters should be forwarded to the kommisarat - but never are - until the parents make a formal complaint, when the church is obliged to hand over any evidence they have.

Nothing will change Braveheart - it's all empty words. The Polish catholic church is especially backward in it's thinking and as a professor in the film says, Polish bishops act like princes, and nobody will dare to act against them, as it's political suicide.

Life / Child abuse in Poland [64]


This is outmoded nonsense anyway. Children should be given a few passages from the bible to read before Easter and that would surely suffice. Barring that approach, the mother should be given paid leave from work (the state pays her wages), and she escorts her child to the church - rather like Spanish mothers chaperone their children.

If the church refuses to immediately report any accusatory letters from parents directly to the police, then they can't be trusted in this sexalised age, and deserve to be treated with a general suspicion.