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Posts by Natasa  

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Last Post: 11 Nov 2012
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From: Beograd, Serbia
Speaks Polish?: no
Interests: sea

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Natasa   
30 Apr 2011
Life / Why Poles have so pro-emigration attitude? [92]

hard disciplinary work

That is why I think it is a Hell.

Anyway, maybe I didn't understand croata but he tried to relativize the concepts of rich and poor, or not? That attempt is in accordance with our common socialist tradition.
Natasa   
30 Apr 2011
Life / Why Poles have so pro-emigration attitude? [92]

Why on your opinion Poland is 'poor country' and Germany 'rich country'?

El Croata,
Our glorious mother Socialist federal republic of Yugoslavia died, with it died also the socialism and its definitions and the power to define economical terms. Actually to define anything.

I studied law when SFRY was collapsing, and I had to learn two completely different political economies. One professor was progressive, the other was a bloody commie ;) So, I could compare the ideas.

You know who won that battle, the richer, not the poorer ;)
Natasa   
22 Apr 2011
Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

They have largely copied the ancient greek grammar and syntax but they omitted the grace.

I've noticed those problems with grace in various domains. It's irrelevant for them. It doesn't have a function.

Please get back to the topic of this thread
Natasa   
22 Apr 2011
Travel / What about that Banja Luka Serbian restaurant in Warsaw; Is that realy that good? [30]

Filled with rice or meat

Ours is always mixed meat and rice, hot. Naturally.

Is it a one melting pot, or each ethnic group kept some set of dishes that are only specific to the given area?

Dear Marynka, feeling of some shared values ;) is inviting me to give you an answer in Crow's absence :))

Croatia- Mostly Mediterranean (Italy) cuisine with Austrian influences. Lots of fish, pasta and better cakes than those we (don't) eat.

Slovenia - Austrian as far as I know, didn't eat much there.

Bosnia - melting pot, has its own dishes like " bosnian pot", mix of everything. Turkish heritage very pronounced, a lots of pies, no pork these days, interesting.

Macedonia - excellent vegetables and fruits, similar to Serbian

Montenegro - meat monsters, although they have a piece of coast, nice one, you can hardly find a good fish restaurant, mostly serving MEAT!!!! (I heard the locals complain how there is no fish there due to the configuration of the underwater terrain, while Croats few km away have plenty of fish)

Crow, correct me if I'm wrong
Natasa   
22 Apr 2011
Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

Indeed as E.M. Forster wrote "Suspicion is the sin of the East and Hypocrisy is the sin of the West."

It couldn't have been said better or more accurate than this :)
(I knew about the hypocrisy,I tried to avoid that label, but as it is usually the case, my people flaws were blurred for me :)))

Suspicion it is. (but justified naturally) ;)

With German on the other hand you are obliged to get into a frustrating combo of details because without them the sentence is sitting on the air as we say here

Learning German was an act of violence for typically chaotic Slavic mind. Horror. How can I wait for the damn verb that comes at the end of the sentence, not having a clue what the speaker wants to say until he finishes it? It forces one to really listen :))
Natasa   
22 Apr 2011
Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

English, perhaps due to the Danish and Norman conquests of England, has a larger vocabulary than most languages.

Acknowledged :)

But it still doesn't explain the tendency for that excessive use if phrases, euphemisms from English native speakers....

Other languages also have lexical funds large enough to use synonyms, idioms and slightly alter the meanings, but still don't use that possibility that frequently.

Idea behind that manner of speech is different. Here it is disrespectful to talk like that to the interlocutor, it is usually interpreted as a way to mislead or deceive.

English, the idea is not to offend the person, as far as I understood the intention of that practice, right?
Natasa   
22 Apr 2011
Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

The English language allows them to bend things to their own needs, rather than just spit it out.

I was thinking about this characteristic of English language. Compared to German who's cousin it is, it is less clear. But for me with basic education in Russian (later Spanish a bit too), English sometimes seems like encrypted. After understanding the meaning of the sentence, I need to perform another procedure, what did the author really want to say :)) (verbal abilities are not my strong side)

So, this could be an interesting question, why did English develop in that direction ? That had to have some purpose, maybe early development of parliamentary life? ( guessing..)

Or people get more easily insulted, something to do with the mentality?
:)
Natasa   
22 Apr 2011
Travel / What about that Banja Luka Serbian restaurant in Warsaw; Is that realy that good? [30]

You didn't ask me, anyway I think I am competent enough to answer this one ;) Unlike most of the Serbs I had argues with about , I don't think it is something special.

People here like to eat a lot of meat (pork, beef, lamb), so biggest Serbian cuisine achievements are related to meat.
Worth a try IMO are Sarma (sour cabbage with minced meat). Kajmak (sort of cheese, foreigners don't understand it usually), ajvar (boiled paprika with spices).

Meat has excellent quality. Vegetables and fruits too (above EU standards).

Cakes are awful. I guess it has to do something with climate, too warm for more demanding sugar/fat combos.
Foreigners also are very pleasantly surprised with our pastry.
One American girl said " I'm going to miss the bakery (she was asked is she will miss anything)".

(there are many German, Italian , Greek and Turkish influences, each army brought its recipes (Greeks brought it with love);))
Natasa   
22 Apr 2011
Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]

What foreigners may find rude is Polish peeps use of the imperative. It sounds rude to a refined Englishman, for example, but that is not the intention.

I think that is not only a Polish problem, but has to do something with all Slavic languages. I heard the similar complaint about Serbian imperative from foreigners, nobody is offended for its use here, and we have some temperament issues :))

There are different ways to differentiate when it is a command, and when it is a form of asking. Paralanguage.

So, to defend my Polish brothers I think that our use of imperative is implying more direct way of communication (preferred), most of the language means are not allowing evasiveness (words used to hide, not to say), like in English :p

Welcome back Seanus ;)
Natasa   
10 Apr 2011
Off-Topic / Being a Slav: a blessing or a curse? [199]

Mediteranean legs suffer from shortness and deviation from vertical position.

The daughter of one of our diplomats who lived in Rome 4 years, told me that she didn't see one "pair of good legs" during that period there.

I noticed that too in Italy, but they are skilfully masking the problem. In general they look OK.
Natasa   
7 Apr 2011
Off-Topic / Being a Slav: a blessing or a curse? [199]

Mila Jovovic

Interesting mix of the robust, strong body (serbain feature), slightly sharper facial characteristics and Ukrainian colors.
I have a friend made of the same compounds, she looks completely Ukrainian. Red hair. Higher cheeks, meaty, heavy legs (that is rare here), narrow shoulders....but kinkiness is also Ukrainian ;)
Natasa   
5 Apr 2011
Love / Is rape so common in Poland? [95]

@southern
I have some ideas about some PF members that might possess the superior equipment.
Natasa   
1 Apr 2011
Off-Topic / Being a Slav: a blessing or a curse? [199]

blessing.

Only that, of course.

Do you have any stereotypes about them?

It is of course a positive stereotype coming from a Slav. (I would include handsome (pretty), fearless, melancholic, warm, hedonistic, friendly....maybe chaotic)
Natasa   
7 Feb 2011
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

My first husband was handsome and all women wanted him, so I had to donate him back...

Those have to be on the short leash.
Women are compared to men more cruel, somehow foreign territory seems more attractive than unconquered one. Evolution I guess.
Natasa   
6 Feb 2011
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

One theology student told me that Mel Gibson depicted him quite accurately in his movie.
Genderless. (the devil)

long lasting relationship

look becomes irrelevant as far as i noticed at some moment. Those relationships tend to destroy even the perfection.
Unless refreshed from time to time.

I guess that applies to Polish guys and women too. or not?
Natasa   
5 Feb 2011
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

German, Polish, Russian and French

If you have Telly Savalas haircut you can really be everything.
Everything else is forgiven ;)

blue eyes, average height?

Aren't Russians and Poles more robust types compared to German or French or I was distorting my perception to fit my desires? :))
Natasa   
27 Jan 2011
News / Poland's trafficking problem and prostitution [33]

That is why I go for the free hunt.

I'm not sure if that investment pays off better :))

6000 is too much.This is the price for famous models,TV stars etc.

There were some rumors for some of our celebs, prices were in that range. In 90s.
Natasa   
27 Jan 2011
News / Poland's trafficking problem and prostitution [33]

<puts hand on her shoulder ... do you want to talk about it ... ;)?>

:)))
If you put your hand on my shoulder you are risking my license and helping me alter my professional preferences ;)

I'm pretty sure you won't get E 6.000 per session

As far as I know, one of the largest fees per hour that I have heard of (it's possible that the information is outdated) was one thatFamous Psychologist was charging, it was I think , 800 $ per hour. But that guy is (was) a giant in psychology almost like a Freud. And he had 40 years of work behind him at that moment.

Fools....fools.
just joking of course.
Of course it's easier to explore peoples darkest and most painful experiences than.... to...to... do whatever those women do for 6000.
WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR THAT MONEY AT ALL???
Natasa   
27 Jan 2011
News / Poland's trafficking problem and prostitution [33]

"The standard fee charged is about €120 (£100), but some of the women who advertise their services have been known to earn up to €6,000 a session."

I was raised in a wrong, very very wrong way.

My sessions are ahahaha :)))) (but I would cry now honestly)

Goodbye psychology.

Hello love.
Natasa   
29 Dec 2010
History / Poland in a Slavic Union/Alliance/Federation? [335]

no one will harm you again'

Exactly. Again. The history is the reason why that particular word was successful in charming the masses.

the Hague

Interesting death rate there ;)
I wonder if and when is Seselj coming back. He had some health problems recently too.

mir is peace and rat is war

Bravo, It took me few years of Russian in school to realize that mir in russian means world...

You are welcome ;)
Natasa   
29 Dec 2010
History / Poland in a Slavic Union/Alliance/Federation? [335]

territory obsessed

Life obsessed.... WWII couldn't be forgotten.

"1991. came immediately after 1941." (Smilja Avramov, professor of international public law on civil war in Yu)

you'll understand
sr.wikipedia.org/sr-el/%D0%A1%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%99%D0%B0_%D0%90%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B2
Natasa   
29 Dec 2010
History / Poland in a Slavic Union/Alliance/Federation? [335]

I wonder when the Serbs will learn their lesson...

You got it all wrong, we are giving lessons ;)

Woda, ziemia, szczęścia, światło, chwała, miężczyzna, kobieta, trzymać?

Voda, zemlja, sreća, svetlo, slava, the others are more similar to Russian, mušćina (man?)..

there is much machoism in the Balkans

Rumors :))
Natasa   
28 Dec 2010
History / Poland in a Slavic Union/Alliance/Federation? [335]

What would they rather be? Irish?

Oh.... they thought of themselves as Goths, Aryans (historical reasons), Persians....

They are facing some identity problems.

I think they are dressing up as Germans( helmets, uniforms from WWII), speaking German gibberish when alone at home ;)
Just joking, but I really don't know what would they like to be. Not Slavs.

But the truth is they are quite mixed with Italians, Austrians, Hungarians and Serbs, so their family names have letters like w, y and others which originally don't exist in their alphabet.

Contrary to Serbs, they always liked to be assimilated by some of their neighbors hating what they really were. Slavs. Now they are heavily mixed Slavs.

But with aspirations to loose that label in time.
Natasa   
26 Dec 2010
History / Poland in a Slavic Union/Alliance/Federation? [335]

What all three have in common?
Some hints....not legs, not eyes...so?

or it can be a creature like from myths, head of a lion, body of the bear and eagles legs.

I'm more for option one.