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Poland's trafficking problem and prostitution


SeanBM 35 | 5,808
27 Jan 2011  #1
I believe this is a very real problem in Poland and in some other countries.

I drive through a forest with prostitutes in them when the weather is not too cold.
It is very unsafe, there are no washing facilities, no protection from whackos or anything.

This is the main reason why I believe that prostitution should be legalised, it would be safer for everyone.

They could have sexual transmitted disease tests, washing facilities, protection from violence, pay taxes and have a pension etc...
OP southern 75 | 7,097
27 Jan 2011  #2
I drive through a forest with prostitutes in them

You choose it carefully?
Stu 12 | 522
27 Jan 2011  #3
This is the main reason why I believe that prostitution should be legalised, it would be safer for everyone.

Good point, Sean. In the Netherlands and Germnay prostitution IS legal. The sex-workers have a union, pay taxes and in Germany even get welfare benefits. But unfortunately, there remains an illegal circuit where trafficked women are forced to work under the most horrendous cirumstances.

So ... what to do about this illegal circuit? It obviously still pays to traffick these women otherwise this circuit would have died out automatically.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
27 Jan 2011  #4
You choose it carefully?

I have never paid a prostitute for sex.

About a week ago I saw a truck driver, who must have got distracted by the prostitutes because exactly where the prostitutes stand in an opening in forest, he crashed off road, what an idiot.
convex 20 | 3,978
27 Jan 2011  #5
Good point, Sean. In the Netherlands and Germnay prostitution IS legal.

In Poland, prostitution IS legal.
Stu 12 | 522
27 Jan 2011  #6
Is it ...? Sorry, didn't know ... my bad.
OP southern 75 | 7,097
27 Jan 2011  #7
I was told that only Ukrainki and Belarusskaye debushky are engaged in this dangerous form of prostitution while Polki are supposed to be clean.
I was told by a Belarusskaya about a friend of hers who used to stand on the side of the road moving from village to village as the truck drivers transported her during the day till she came home on the last truck.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
27 Jan 2011  #8
In the Netherlands

I lived in the Netherlands when I left school and it opened my eyes to many very good things, coming from "good auld Catholic Ireland" I certainly needed some eye opening.

I thought it was amazing that prostitutes were on the national health service.
Correct me if I get the details wrong but in the NL, if you have a severe illness, you can get a prostitute to visit you at home, paid for by the government.

I think that is brilliant, there is no point in denying that prostitution exists and that everyone, even the sick, want sex.

So ... what to do about this illegal circuit? It obviously still pays to traffick these women otherwise this circuit would have died out automatically.

I don't know, I would assume that legalising it would certainly get rid of a lot of the illegal trafficking?

In Poland, prostitution IS legal.

Is it really?
Stu 12 | 522
27 Jan 2011  #9
while Polki are supposed to be clean.

Not on the border with Germany they aren't ... :-S

I don't know, I would assume that legalising it would certainly get rid of a lot of the illegal trafficking?

Well, yes ... I would have assumed that as well. But unfortunately that isn't true. There still have been a lot of trafficking cases in Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands. So that's why I can only assume that illegal trafficking is still profitable, although prostitution is legal. And then the question begs how to eliminate that circuit ... ? I haven't got the answer either, I'm afraid.
OP southern 75 | 7,097
27 Jan 2011  #10
In Poland it is semilegal.In Sweden it is strictly illegal and the client gets punished as well.
Natasa 1 | 580
27 Jan 2011  #11
Only the client. Prostitute is not getting punished.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
27 Jan 2011  #12
strictly illegal and the client gets punished as well.

i think to deny the facts or to think that making something illegal will stop it, is nonsense.

As my father says, "Banking is the second oldest business in the world and less honourable than the first."
OP southern 75 | 7,097
27 Jan 2011  #13
Banking is the second oldest business in the world

Being priest is the oldest.(the name of prostitute in ancient greek is ''ierodoulos'' which means slave of the priest since these women also used to clean the temple.It was also an euphemeism.

Not on the border with Germany they aren't

Crossing the borders too often?
Anyway polish pros have the fame in Germany that they are the best.And in Germany we are talking about first class international competition.
Stu 12 | 522
27 Jan 2011  #14
Crossing the borders too often?

Yes ... but only by plane.

And in Germany we are talking about first class international competition.

And expensive as well ...

From The Independent:

"The standard fee charged is about €120 (£100), but some of the women who advertise their services have been known to earn up to €6,000 a session."
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
27 Jan 2011  #15
Anyway polish pros have the fame in Germany that they are the best.And in Germany we are talking about first class international competition.

I should have but didn't realise your thread was a competition.
OP southern 75 | 7,097
27 Jan 2011  #16
but some of the women who advertise their services have been known to earn up to €6,000 a session."

Polish prostitute fined 2.4 million zloty for evading tax.

huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/12/prostitute-fined-820000-f_n_420637.html
wildrover 98 | 4,452
27 Jan 2011  #17
I have never paid a prostitute for sex.

Don,t you just hate people who run off without paying...
Natasa 1 | 580
27 Jan 2011  #18
"The standard fee charged is about €120 (£100), but some of the women who advertise their services have been known to earn up to €6,000 a session."

I was raised in a wrong, very very wrong way.

My sessions are ahahaha :)))) (but I would cry now honestly)

Goodbye psychology.

Hello love.
convex 20 | 3,978
27 Jan 2011  #19
Don,t you just hate people who run off without paying...

post of the month
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
27 Jan 2011  #20
Polish prostitute fined 2.4 million zloty for evading tax.

That's interesting.

Prostitution in Poland Wiki

In Poland prostitution is legal, but operating brothels or other forms of pimping are prohibited. Prostitution is present in various forms in the country and experts estimated that 18,000 to 20,000 women worked as prostitutes, many of them employed in "massage parlors" and "escort services" that functioned as brothels.[75]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Europe#Prostitution_in_Poland

Don,t you just hate people who run off without paying...

:) :) :)
JaneDoe 5 | 114
27 Jan 2011  #21
LOL! Guys, you need to start searching for other job opportunities. ;)
Stu 12 | 522
27 Jan 2011  #22
Goodbye psychology.

Well ... "Love" ... ;) .., as soon as you are a qualified psychologist, I'm pretty sure you won't get E 6.000 per session ... <puts hand on her shoulder ... do you want to talk about it ... ;)?>
NomadatNet 1 | 457
27 Jan 2011  #23
some of the women who advertise their services have been known to earn up to €6,000 a session."

now, you understand why there has been crisis in economy?
women are tighthanded.. if you keep paying them, you will find yourself as their prostitute.
OP southern 75 | 7,097
27 Jan 2011  #24
you won't get E 6.000 per session

6000 is too much.This is the price for famous models,TV stars etc.
Natasa 1 | 580
27 Jan 2011  #25
<puts hand on her shoulder ... do you want to talk about it ... ;)?>

:)))
If you put your hand on my shoulder you are risking my license and helping me alter my professional preferences ;)

I'm pretty sure you won't get E 6.000 per session

As far as I know, one of the largest fees per hour that I have heard of (it's possible that the information is outdated) was one thatFamous Psychologist was charging, it was I think , 800 $ per hour. But that guy is (was) a giant in psychology almost like a Freud. And he had 40 years of work behind him at that moment.

Fools....fools.
just joking of course.
Of course it's easier to explore peoples darkest and most painful experiences than.... to...to... do whatever those women do for 6000.
WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR THAT MONEY AT ALL???
NomadatNet 1 | 457
27 Jan 2011  #26
6000 is too much.This is the price for famous models,TV stars etc.

even 1 euro is too much for any of them, even if she is a model or tv star.
OP southern 75 | 7,097
27 Jan 2011  #27
WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR THAT MONEY AT ALL???

It's a secret.Their service also can vary in duration from 5 minutes to one hour.So a bulk thinking economist will prefer to reduce the price and the time simultaneously.Anyway the investors are quite happy but can anyone explain to me why the Italians are so dumbasses to marry pros?And why the Arabs are eager to spend on them a fortune for one night?

Some men really spoil everything.That is why I go for the free hunt.
NomadatNet 1 | 457
27 Jan 2011  #28
That is why I go for the free hunt.

Free? is the most expensive thing.
Natasa 1 | 580
27 Jan 2011  #29
That is why I go for the free hunt.

I'm not sure if that investment pays off better :))

6000 is too much.This is the price for famous models,TV stars etc.

There were some rumors for some of our celebs, prices were in that range. In 90s.


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