News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


In the current Polish reality, those words sort of fit PiS instead.

A very good post Paulina, you've hit a lot of nails on the head.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


It can't (and doesn't). Unfortunately religious extremists like the PiSites would rather see human misery than see their religious fantasies proved wrong. They thrive on that - some extreme fundamentalists actually belive that human suffering is a good thing.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


It's in the interests of PiS in many ways to let that awful situation continue; they thrive on human misery (happy and prosperous people do not vote for parties like that), and the more incest there is, the more inbreds there are to vote for them

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Yeah right, some poor kid in a village is going to go through all that legal procedure just because her brother diddled her?

News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]


Were you there? Did you (in your home a long way from Poland) see the Polish pro-democracy rally?


That would b a lie if it were untrue. Which it isn't...

News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]

Looks like it's all still getting worse:




politico.eu/article/poland-kaczynski-szydlo-tribunal-constitution-crisis/

News / Throwing away the constitution in Poland? [626]


Exactly. They pretty well backtracked on all the ones that sounded worthwhile, not that there were many.

Food / Where can I find halal butchery in Warsaw? [28]


Quite.

Anyway, the largest halal butcher is just round the corner from the Warsaw Central Mosque in Wilanów - anyone looking to buy halal meat just needs to ask there.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Read the post carefully, Po, and try not to pretend that you misunderstand.

Just in case anyone is taken in by your usual misinformation, the post you pretend not to like was about the silly way the government in Poland behaved, pulling tampon ads from the TV during papal visits - for no sensible reason whatsoever.

Anyway, he was just a person, flawed like any other.

And given the misery caused to families in the developing world (and not only; in Poland too) denied birthcontrol, abortion etc) on his watch it would not be unreasonable to call his attitude to abortion an act of evil.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Good news, it's likely not to happen
abc.net.au/news/2016-04-10/thousands-protest-against-proposed-poland-abortion-law/7314296

How is it in any way the business of any booby bishop or their political supporteres anyway, if a woman wants to get some of her own cells flushed out?

The real risk of course is that this is all a smokescreen - basically an attempt by Kaczynski, a notorious manipulator to propose a massively unpopular bill like this and use the obvious protests to mask some other sort of dirty deed that he's up to.

Worth following the news very carefully indeed at the moment.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Show such an insult, since you claim one.

And do you actually think there was any reason to censor tampon ads during his visit?

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Indeed. If men could get pregnant, this discussion would simply not be happening.

Do you remember JPII's visit's to Poland? They stopped tampon adverts being shown on TV. Probably not because of the tiny offchance that he should spend part of his busy visit watching 'M jak Miłość' he might watch the commercials and learn for the first time that women menstruate, but hard to htink of any other reason.

A very good article here:


theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/10/poland-abortion-ban-petition-women-streets-law-justice

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Exactly. Trying to impose a very negative view of the world and a very low impression of women.

As I've said before, the guy comes across here as having no redeeming features whatsoever. I sincerely hope the reality is different, but I very much doubt it.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Looks like there's a new scandal breaking right now - of course yet more PiS misdeeds. Not just the dead horses in the famed national stables after PiS relaxed the expert director with one of their cronies who is entirely unqualified.

More news to follow...

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

There is a surname (not a common one) Groszewa.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


You're obsessed with the subject. Absolutely obsessed.

Anyway, Poland has already has a homosexual head of government - Jaroslaw Kaczynski who is the leader of the party who are unfortunately in government now.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

So he can only bring himself to live where his "family's roots are", rather than in the capital, the proper place for a head of state, not that he is much of one.

This would surprise and amuse so many people.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


And of course as if a cluster of cells with no brain or neural network were a child.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


This is actually something that political tendency would be happy with.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Basically stealth taxes to try to fund their wingnut policies and similar woo. This is something we'll be seeing a lot of until they're booted out.

Life / Bribery and corruption 'fact of life' in Poland? [152]


Fits PiS perfecly. They even admit that they are corrupt.


An 'official' PiS mouthpiece.

Life / Bribery and corruption 'fact of life' in Poland? [152]


Which mirrors the persecution and score settling they tried during their previous brief period in office.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


It's very much an argument, and yes, the same goes for prohibition of alcohol and other intoxicants. One very major reason American prohibition ws repealed was due to those self same "shady sources" that they allude to.

I would say very strongly, that the risk to women's lives from the home-done abortions that happen anyway is a good enough argument on its own for it to be available on demand. Plus of course all the other compelling arguments.

History / History of two Neighbors: Poland - Germany Interrelations [283]


Plenty. There has always been overlap between the two communities and people with a foot in each camp. Lots of Poles have German names and lots of Germans have Polish names. Plus entire cultural groups that straddle both. As Gunther Grass (of Kaszub roots) said, the Kaszubs are too German for the Poles and too Polish for the Germans.


The beginning of settled life. I wouldn't call it 'interrelations' since the borders were fluid and the two nationalities very close.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Re. the cluster of cells, looks like the Mods deleted the comment we were both replying to.

With the abortion debate, it isn't in any sense about the ethics of abortion. Abortions are available discreetly in Poland despite the current legal restrictions, they are even more available a short hop away on Ryanair, and theyve always been available if you have Pennyroyal tea or a knitting needle.

The issue is twofold. Whether religious and other groups have the right to impose their views and mostly, that the government seems to thing that legal abortion is unacceptable while knowing full well that women are being injured or killed by home-made ones.

Food / Polish bacon doesn't fry up? [70]


Eating raw bacon is a very bad idea for a whole lot of reasons, stomach cancer (a lot of that in Poland due to the processed cold meats) being high on the list.

At least the medical treatment is free here in Europe - a good thing you aren't stuck in Mexico or America or somewhere like that.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Given that a cluster of cells has no central nervous system or brain it would hardly care.

So he's a cluster of cells without a brain or central nervous system is he? I know that some of the more conservative posters here manage to post under those circumstances, however I doubt that applies to Smurf.

With these crazy abortion proposals (and Poland already has some of the most restrictive abortion laws in Europe leading thousands of women to go abroad or do it in Poland illegally) it looks like PiS has managed to upset both the anti-abortionists who want it and the women of Poland who don't.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Basically something else the PiS flappers have destroyed with their corruption and ineptitude. They are determined to make Poland a laughing stock like the last time they crept in.

I notice that Giertych is back in bed with them now. Are there any depths to which they will not sink?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Impressive only in its ineptitude and venality.

Every single thing they have attempted has backfired on them and somehow hurt Poland.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


So when he's out of office and without any sort of immunity, things could get quite interesting about tax evasion.