News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]

I wonder what you mean by that - expelling 5 million of the Polish population?

History / Why Poles love Russia [105]


culturally? yes; ethnically? well yes? lingusitcally? they all speak Russian - those Buriats, Yakuts, Bashkirs are a bit like Natives in the US

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [227]


yeah sure SB deceived itself with mass producing fake information - what they did though is rely on spoken word of trusted people - it's obvious because SB was just Kiszczak and 10 other honorable camarades - but sure everyone is entitled to his own opinion (also what Cenckiewicz states as his sources are a variety of documents not just SB archives) - everyone knows that communists never had any snitches because they didn't have to - the society was just loyal like that

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [227]


it's not self-inflicted - it's Gazeta Wyborcza inflicted or at least TVN-inflicted

News / PiS and Russian political/economic interests [70]


I sometimes wonder, pawian, where you were when president Kaczyński flew to Georgia to support it against Putin's invasion

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [227]


Cenckiewicz is a historian and he quotes a variety of sources in the article - I knew you wouldn't read the article but maybe some people who would like to learn a couple of facts about Wałęsa would

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [227]


he most probably was a communist confident as soon as his time in the military and continued till the democratic Poland although at some point he probably played some game with the communists - however his political maneuver was heavily limited by the compromising material the communist secret services gatheren on him - this is my opinion - feel free to read the Cenckiewicz article though - sometimes it's good to face interesting questions about those you admire/follow/etc

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [227]


read this pawian: niezalezna.pl/93236-tylko-u-nas-slawomir-cenckiewicz-obala-14-mitow-walesy - I have little hope you don't brush it off but since you wanted some sources here you go

History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [227]


it is your good faith that many of the poeple you talk about were let off the hook in good faith

I also presume you don't think Wałęsa was ever an SB confident

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]

as far as I know the budget draft includes very similar cuts in the funds Germany receives - would you call Mrs Merkel a failure then - btw it is not rumours - there is a draft of the EU budget by the EU Comission already proposed for negotiantions - negations are still ahead of us


very similar percentage-wise

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


have you noticed a pattern: you hear about people arrested with VAT fraud charges now (for quite some time) - I don't remember hearing about such things during the PO rule - do you?

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


the simple answer to your simple question is that PiS doesn't go hand in hand with VAT fraudsters - my previous answer was to show you why but you probably can't add two to two

ok pawian - I shouldn't have called you an idiot because you might have been unaware of the fact that VAT gap is caused by various things not just large scale VAT fraud that some people call VAT mafias - but I hope you are enlightened on the topic now

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]

sorry you are an idiot - the VAT gap during PO times comprised for the big part of large scale VAT fraud - this fraud was largely eliminated as proven by the huge growth in VAT income - the small scale VAT fruad that relies on not issueing invoices and similar was not even addressed for the most part by now - maybe there will come a time when addressing this issue would be more welcome by the populace

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the part of the VAT gap that was due to VAT caroussels and other serious VAT fraud was almost wiped out I guess - the remaining VAT gap is due to small businesses not issueing invoices and thus avoiding paying VAT

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]

20 billion PLN is a 15 per cent growth year to year (between 2016 and 2017)

by the way the data you have shown for bonuses in the times of PiS pertains to bonuses paid to the ministers - when you look at global bonuses paid to state administration the comparison is not as glaring: in 2014 452 million PLN was paid in bonuses and in 2017 712 million - the 8,6 millon figure paid to ministers in bonuses in 2017 pales in comparison to the global figures

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


na jakim ty świecie chłopie żyjesz - po przejęciu przez PiS władzy i wydaniu wojny mafiom VATowskim dochody z tytułu VAT wzrosły o ponad 20 miliardów niemal z roku na rok

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


maybe that's why they created a VAT gap (including VAT carousels) 25 billion worth - what did they need bonuses for if they were hand in hand with VAT mafias

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


how do you know PO and its cronies didn't grant themselves bonuses in the similar amounts - just from glancing at those articles about Grad and PGE JE I saw there was a mention that they were allowed high bonuses

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


are you somehow restricted in voicing your opinion now ?
in times of PO you talked about the achievements of PO government mostly - why don't you talk about PiS achievements now - like significant lowering of VAT gap (counted in billions - like over 20 billion PLN now) - like eliminating of petrol mafias who never paid any akcyza in Poland - have I made all these up


but they eventually lowered them quite significantly - do you remember any such move on the part of PO during their rule? I don't

and seriously ? you never heard of the word crony before? don't you read internet in English?

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


so Germany has budget shortfall now? - I heard before that in previous years German budget scored surpluses


this was definitely not thousands of people - the project never actually reached physiacal manifestation

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


wpolityce.pl/polityka/260400-koledzy-z-platformy-dobrze-sie-bawia-budowa-elektrowni-atomowej-w-polsce - I based my statements on this source - after reading more carefully I have to admit I misunderstood it a bit - according to the author of the article all money spent on the project of Polish nuclear plants amounted to 1.5 billion - but the guys who ran the show really earned a lot according to all articles on the topic (although they don't all agree on the figures)

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


yes patriotism as celebrated by PiS is bombastic and well over the top - I admit - I also think PiS may possibly get Poland in trouble with all this sociall spending - but I honestly can't see any better alternative at that moment - maybe something is wrong with my mind then - I honestly considered voting for Kukiz in the European elections but it looks like Kukiz is at the verge of collapse

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


you know exactly one example of such behaviour on the part of PiS and the article I quoted for you mentions at least a couple of such instances with PO members

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


yes you are a troll indeed - you can't imagine people vote for PiS and support them because of their conscience - and then you are surprised PiS gets over 40 per cent of votes

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]

also I know you are sort of moderate as far as Polish politic goes Ziemowit, but I honestly can't remember you raising the issues of blatant corruption or shady behaviour of PO politicians during their joint rule with PSL - maybe you didn't read the websites and commentators i read at the time

pawian on the other hand is an example of a fanatic to me to be honest

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


I watch Wiadomości TVP quite often (but not really regularly) and I haven't seen anything like you claim in months - I admit that they go too far with "propaganda sukcesu" (success propaganda?) and this may backfire on them


I missed that to be honest - perhaps because I don't read the likes of gazeta.pl and watch TVN because it's constant shitstorm against PiS and it gets on my nerves - also I sometimes go for days without checking news

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


no I haven't heard stories - I have heard allegations without any hint of proof - even if Kaczyński is a gay in denial he doesn't support things like gay adoptions which I welcome from politicians

honestly I don't know where you people were when PO was in power - in a mousehole? - not reading anything past Gazeta Wyborcza?

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]

@gumishu

also there was a scandal of Sikorski travels - he claimed that he made 32 thousands kilometers in his private car between 2007 and 2014 when he was a defence minister - this amounted to almost 30 000 PLN which he claimed from Sejm - if you don't believe here's an excerpt of a Polish article about that :

- Tygodnik "Wprost" napisał, że Sikorski w okresie od 2007 r. do września 2014 r., kiedy pełnił funkcję szefa polskiej dyplomacji i przysługiwał mu samochód służbowy z kierowcą, a także ochrona BOR, przejechał prywatnym autem w celach służbowych 32 tys. km. Za każdy przejechany kilometr własnym samochodem poseł dostaje z Sejmu 83 gr.

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


Lenka just read the article I posted about the earnings of Aleksander Grad (he raked in 55 thousand PLN a month) leading an institution that was supposed to build a nuclear plant in Poland - and it built exactly nothing but spent 1.5 BILLION PLN on 'expertyzy'

News / Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland [470]


most of these positions were occupied by PO cronies before PiS came to power - and they earned as much or even more than now - like this guy Grad : wpolityce.pl/polityka/260400-koledzy-z-platformy-dobrze-sie-bawia-budowa-elektrowni-atomowej-w-polsce


name this pet young man that was 'mentored' by Kaczyński or just shut up - by the way Macierewicz has a wife - just use your internet sometimes