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Lyzko   
22 Jan 2024
Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]

@Mowiciel prawdy,
I find it interesting if nothing else, that one of the master stylists
in the English language, Joseph Conrad, was a Pole who didn't
learn English until his was a young merchant seaman.

They say he spoke with a heavy Polish accent, yet his writing
seems to reveal no such interference.
Never once did I suspect he was anything but a native English
speaker until I was in my last year in high school and learned
he was a Pole from a well-born family.
Lyzko   
22 Jan 2024
Life / Jerzy Kosinski: Are his works popular in Poland? [48]

Thanks so much for your timely response. His biography, not to mention
his professional resume, is indeed impressive. Never quite understood why
he was ever so dogged by plagiarism during the latter phase of his relatively
short life.
Lyzko   
22 Jan 2024
Life / Jerzy Kosinski: Are his works popular in Poland? [48]

His much tanished reputation notwithstanding
along with his sporadic successes in the US, I'm curious
as to how Kosinski, a Polish Jew who wrote in English and who as an adult always lived abroad ,
is currently received in the land of his birth.
Lyzko   
22 Jan 2024
Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]

Polish has an exceptionally elaborate morphology, complete
with a conservative system of productive prefixed verbs which
require a more subtle usage than their English equivalents.The
concept of "imperfective" vs. "perfective" can drive many a learner
to distraction!

For example, "pisac" (to be engaged in the act of writing) vs. "NApisac" (to have completed the act of writing) vs. "pisYWac" (to be continually writing),

and finally "ROZpisYWac" (to write until one's fingers are about to fall off, figurately speaking of course) etc...

English requires explanation more than translation, whereas in Polish, the prefixes themselves do all the work.
Lyzko   
21 Jan 2024
Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]

@Mowiciel prawdy, Norwegian's a most apt example, actually.
Nynorsk isn't even a centuries' old language, but a construct
based on Ivar Aasen's attempt during the mid-19th century to return Norwegians to their
true Norse roots by extricating all Dano-Norwegian aka Bokmaal/Riksmaal words from the language in a sort of nativist, peasant revolt.
He succeeded!
Lyzko   
21 Jan 2024
USA, Canada / Where can I meet Polish women in Chicago [85]

And you remind me of a guy who WISHES he were trapped in the 1940's
and pretends his isn't.

There was much to be said for the immediate post-War Era, my friend.
Lyzko   
21 Jan 2024
Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]

This discussion reminds me of a most engaging debate between linguists
during a symposium headed by the Canadian Prof.Steven Pinkert, in which the concept
of dialect vs. language was being discussed.

A gentleman rose during the session and quipped, a dialect is merely an appendage
to a language, whereas the latter is merely a dialect with an army and a navy behind it.

Standardization, as I've said before, is as much political, indeed social, as it is linguistic!
:-)
Lyzko   
20 Jan 2024
Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]

Allow me to qualify. The language of the Dutch West Indies/Antilles aka Papiamento is technically a pidgin,
as is the varieties of English spoken in both Hawaii as well as the Pitcairn Islands in the South Pacific.

However, Australian English for example, is not a pidgin because it remains a recognizable facsimile
of the language which we all recognize as "English", albeit spoken in a different area of the world than
the UK, same with American along with Canadian English.

Typically, pluracentric languages such as English, Spanish or French, will experience dialect variation
throughout the world as a consequence of centuries of colonization, whereby "foreign" varieties, such
as new lexic etc. are gradually added to become part of the base vocabulary.

Polish on the other hand has no known pidgins or varieties of language owing to colonialist expansion
as the language is primarily, indeed almost exclusively, spoken within one country, namely Poland.

@jon, you're quite right. Yet, in my experience, the "Standard" English spoken throughout England
is still RP (Received Pronunciation), although even that pronunciation has changed considerably over
the past decades, perhaps to reflect a more brashly proletarian usage, even on the BBC.
Lyzko   
20 Jan 2024
Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]

A pidgin in linguistics refers to a bastardized variant of an established
source tongue which, owing to political influences, has morphed into a separate
entity.

Since "British" (as opposed to "American") is the Ur- or Primordial language
from which the latter derived, I don't entirely see your point here.
Lyzko   
19 Jan 2024
Language / Is it possible to master the Polish language fluently for a non-Polish speaker? [120]

No so, mowiciel!

American English has long developed into her own proud language, complete with her own
distinct vocabulary, even grammatical structures, idiom, not to mention divergent pronunciation.
Our "standard accent" is based on the "dialect" or erstwhile speech of Southern English pronunciation
from the 17th century, around the time the Puritans landed at Plymouth Rock.

Both British and American have both gone in separate directions and are as different from either
the O.E of Beowulf, the M.E. of Chaucer or the tongue of the Great Bard as day and night.
Lyzko   
19 Jan 2024
USA, Canada / Where can I meet Polish women in Chicago [85]

Unrelated to current thread, but there's an old, old movie "Northside 777" (1947) w/James Stewart
and Lee J. Cobb among many others, and it's about the Polish mob on Chicago's former North Side.
There're some snatches of Polish spoken throughout and authentic location shots of the neighborhood,
giving the film a true Polish flavor.
Lyzko   
18 Jan 2024
History / Why Poland achieved nothing at all? [69]

@jon, name for me a single famous Russian who wasn't mixed with
something else!

Pushkin for instance was half black, Lobachevsky might have been part Jewish, Shostakovich
was half-Polish, the list goes on....
Lyzko   
18 Jan 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

You know very well what I mean. Furthermore, eighty is not old. It's the new sixty. LOL
Thanks for the compliment. Trolling's your department too.
Lyzko   
17 Jan 2024
History / Why Poland achieved nothing at all? [69]

Mendelejeff simply codified them, you mean, Yes, jon. That's correct.
However, his singular attempts did catapult them to importance in the
world of chemistry.

Oh, yes and how could I have forgotten to mention Dr. Pavlov in my
list of crucial Russian contributions. Or even the first Putin before the
current Czar Vladimir[The Last], RASputin, the "Mad Monk". Mme. Blavatsky etc.....

Conversation overheard at a party:

Random guest: Anybody here know what Pavlov fed his dog?
Pilot: I don't know. Was the dog flying tourist or first class?
Lyzko   
17 Jan 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

@Ironside, you realize you haven't one scintilla of evidence to support your specious claims.
@Alien, I certainly do believe in angels.
Lyzko   
16 Jan 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

For someone whom I've never met, I don't understand you, really I don't!
At least get to know the person on a friendship level before deciding you
don't like them.

Besides, who ever said you have to like that person in order to engage
in conversation??

I stay in touch with many people I personally can't stand, yet I put personal
feelings aside for the sake of social peace.

'See you haven't quite gotten to that level LOL
Lyzko   
16 Jan 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

Re-read the post, if you can, and then I'm certain you'll at least partially agree.
Your written English has so much native language interference, as with certain
other posters here, even after reading it several times, I'm still not sure I completely
get the point.

Crudeness and nastiness should never serve as a crutch for plain ignorance!!!
Lyzko   
16 Jan 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

Unless a non-native bilingual learns their second language BEFORE roughly
the age of nine, they will always experience a degree of first language interference,
bar none!

A language consists of far more than merely its words, pronunciation/accent, intonation, or its structure. It includes
gesture, length of or the presence alone of facial gazing, humor, transitions and the like aka the intangible stuff of cultural, hidden cues.

For example, renowned Hollywood actors Paul Muni, Edward G. Robinson, and Jose Ferrer
(Only the latter a true native-born bilingual) not only spoke, but thought in the English language
despite their being born resp. in Eastern Europe, Romania, and Puerto Rico. The reason? They
all learned English well before the advent of their teen years.
Lyzko   
14 Jan 2024
Off-Topic / Personal Pan-Slavic Manifesto [37]

@Torq, have you read Roman Dmowski? Curious
as to your reaction to his pan-patriotic writings, e.g. "Kwestia Zydowska".
Lyzko   
14 Jan 2024
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

Polish looks? As far as Polish male looks, I tend to think of Zygmunt Malanowicz from "Knife in the Water".
Lyzko   
11 Jan 2024
History / Why Poland achieved nothing at all? [69]

Don't be so sure! The first human, as well as animal, in space was/were
from the former Soviet Union. In addition, without Mendelejeff's Period Table,
chemistry as we know it might still be in the Stone Age. Furthermore, before
either Hermann Oberth or Robert Goddard, a Russian first envisioned space travel.
Lobatschevsky pioneered higher functions in mathematics, Pushkin, Dostoyevsky, Chekov, and
Tolstoy made sizable contributions to literature, not to mention Ilya Repin, Malevitch in visual
art, Tschaikovsky, Scriabin etc. in music, Fokine, Diaghelev in ballet, along with Eisenstein, Pudovkin
Dovzhenko, and Vertov in cinema...

Come on, Alien. You can do better than that.