Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


Far from that, and mostly fun. Even the dreary folk dancing or almost deliberately boring ones.


The frog one is about a miserable subject, and as for the Irish one; they know what they're doing. Dead dogs are never a vote winner

Poland's is like watching paint dry.

There are one or two weird folksy ones too.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]

It's about miserable French songs, tacky Balkan costumes, crap Polish entrants, deliberately crap Irish ones since they're sick of winning, obvious bloc voting and about Sweden getting first place in the end.

Not about fúcking Israel and Gaza. That's been puked over plenty of other threads here.

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All that is good has sent him to keep the fascist vote nicely split.

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1387]

Who knows how the Spanish describe foreign food restaurants in their own languages. We should annex the nice bits anyway. If Putler gets away with invading Crimea, we could probably do from the bottom to a bit after Malaga. It would stop them being twatty about Gibraltar.

Nostradamus wrote a quatrain about it:

From Albion's coast the lion shall descend,
To seize the olives where Castilian donkeys bray
Mazurswife, lice-crotched, shall feign to defend,
Her loins ablaze with cockroaches all day.

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@mafketis
English restaurants. The food doesn't suit the weather. It's not really Spain though, more Essex.

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As a noun, it's basically taproom talk, not for here

Even "ethnic neighbourhood" or "ethnic restaurant" is iffy since all neighbourhoods and all restaurants are ethnic (or multiethnic".

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In English?

Mentioning people as being from ethnic minority backgrounds or living in such a community is fine. The neologism "ethnics" as a noun to describe people was created as a slur and is only used as such.

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There are so many different ethnicities; all of us have one, some have 100% one and 100% another, however saying or writing "ethnics" in English is to use a term which exists to offend.

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1387]

Yes. The word is a neologism that's only used as a slur and as othering.

It's the constant othering by some voices in society that reinforce divisions that need not exist.

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A loaded word and best avoided, however it proves my point. Living within in a closely knit community, they still get the nurture.


Who said they did? And why would someone do that?


Do you mean "other people"?

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1387]

@mafketis
Remember people born and bred in, say, the U.K. or the U.S. and have a Polish granny aren't Poles and don't behave, act or think like Poles.

It's the same with any culture, Take a kid out of their environment and they'll be a very different adult to what they'd have been if they'd not left.

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Or taking responsibility for things. A fatalist society. That's how things have turned out though, nurture not nature, and we shouldn't beat in them too much for it.

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There's the elephant in the room.

Gaza is slap bang next to the northern Egyptian conurbation, one of the largest and poorest in the world with a huge birth rate and little in the way of an economy.


Lots. It's not all cosmopolitan ex-Varsovians or people with one foot in Tel Aviv and another in Brooklyn or Glasgow. Millions of people there came from other parts of the MENA region after 1948 to escape pogroms. Most are generationally poor.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


Australia and Israel are surrounded by stuff culturally further away and both countries buy a lot of TV from Europe, especially the Royaume-Unis

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


Some of the acts are spectacular.

If you follow your own country who keep sending garbage despite other countries around Europe listening to their music the rest of the time and having laws to limit its airplay, it's sad to watch them plummet down the scoreboard.

Always Sweden and Ireland winning.

History / Is there any part of Polish history that's at least a bit glorious? [239]


Germany isn't "hell'.

Unless you mean pale beer.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [580]


Same same.

Countries that have worldwide hit songs send their shít songs to Eurovision

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We've got the strongest government for many decades.

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Their name is Legion

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Yes. Just spewing out the worst drivel from the internet.

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Quite big.

As Nostradamus wrote:
Mieszko's heir with whiskers proud shall stand,
More vast than Stalin's tache across the land.
Yet not as luxuriant as those of Mazur's wife,
In whose pubic tresses cockroaches are rife.

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Poinformował nas również o wyniku.

In northern fields, the trident rises bold,
The Bear shall roar, then burn with fire cold.
Iron skies rain judgment from the west,
The black land freed, the Eagle laid to rest.

Work / Self-employed American living in Poland? Is it possible? [54]


Odd that he writes "come" and not "go" to Poland, given that he lives thousands of miles away and hates his homeland.

He doesn't know whether he's coming or going.

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1387]


It's more the common interpretation of it that's outdated. Saying that it's only great men that make history.

What Carlyle actually wrote was about the way charismatic and able individuals sometimes act as a catalyst for change.


The type of person who is drawn to extreme politics. The points in their election leaflet are purely opportunistic.

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1387]


Populists tend to attract rich backers and are very good at getting in by the back door. They are superb at PR and if there's a sudden crisis they use it cravenly and very quickly. They scare people with imaginary threats. Orban, Milei, Vance/trumpet, Saddam, Franco, Stalin, D'Annumcio as well as a famous Austrian. All like that.


Google: Great Man Theory

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Someone who famously idolised Frederick of Prussia and wrote a very large book about him.


That's what populists everywhere do. It's part of the playbook. Griffin and the BNP did it, even on PF when one of the activists popped up using the "I wouldn't hesitate to vote for the BNP" schtick that their goons were smearing like turds in a prison wall over social media at the time. They won nothing; people found them so distasteful that they came out en-masse to vote against them.

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You have a codex based legal system which probably means that people can't be prosecuted for the Alice thing. In Common Law systems there's the concept of "reasonable understanding" which means they can. I'd just ban it.


Both are important. There should never be a state narrative about history as there is in Poland. It should look at the good and the bad and above all understand the way people thought. It sounds like Hocke wants school to teach the 'Great Man' approach to history. I'd be happy about that (after all it was invented by my most famous relative who admired and famously wrote about Frederick of Prussia) if it wasn't inherently fascistic and if it didn't ignore the social context and the incredibly complex sets of circumstances that drive things along and if it didn't invariably extol the virtues of individuals, hero-worshipping or demonising them.


Fascists pretend to be anti or pro all sorts of things. It's solely about what suits their cause: power and destruction.