Life / Blasphemy not OK in Poland! [54]

FlaglessPole
I woiuld be absolutely oppsoed to a so-called aritstic 'installation' depicitng the Tora or some nation's flag immersed in excrement, urine or anything else that would be offensive to Jews or others. But this cannot work one way.

PC is about creating new pet sacred cows (homosexuals, Jews) but turning a blind eye to other forms of discrimination such as Catholic-bashing and Pole-bashing.

PC is the personficaiton of Orwell's poignant words: Everyone is equal except some are more equal than others!

Life / Blasphemy not OK in Poland! [54]

Another example of PC justice. A few years ago some 'artist' in NY ( I won't mention the nationality but he wasn't Portuguese!) displayed a cruxifix in a jar of urine. Those who protested were shouted down that it's simply freedom artistic expression. I wonder whatJewish NY would say to a n 'artistic installation' comprising facsimile of the Tora imemrsed in a bowel of excrement.

The point is not to try and push the tit-for-tat limits of the permissible and bend the law to the breaking point but but to be guided by comon sense, restraint and mutual respect.

Life / Blasphemy not OK in Poland! [54]

But as the song goes 'Let Poland be Poland.' Polish sensibilites including the nation's supreme judicial organ at this point in time are what they are. In future the permissive society's inclination to the 'anything goes' mentality may eventually come to the fore. When it does, all we can say is 'God help Poland!'

BTW, citing American exsmples, one could also say that handguns and rifles should be seld at every Leroy Merlin, Castoirama and Praktiker in Poland. Are you a big fan of the gun culture?

Life / Blasphemy not OK in Poland! [54]

When courts rule in favour of someone's biases, they say courts are indepndent bodies. When they rule the other way, the same poeple shout 'infringement'. Unless lobbies are outlawed, every citizen, company, organisation or other entity has a right to try to influence the ruling powers. The Church is no exception. Its priority is to protect religion, whilst some artist may feel that artistic freedom should be unfettered and in art 'anything goes'. In a democracy, there will be voters and parties and MPs supporting the one and the other position and probably intermediate positions in between.

Besides blasphemy, obscenties, foul language, vulagrity, Jerry Springeresque popculture, etc. are not things contributing to a better, gentler, friendlier society, but on the contrary -- rile up, aggrevate and unsettle. Do our turbulent really need more chaos and confusion?

Life / Blasphemy not OK in Poland! [54]

Becuase you have latched onto one thing, the Nergal case and similar epsiodes in a horse-blinkewred fasion. I am referring to the grand sweep of contemporary popculture, which is impactiung human behaviour -- the Jerry Springers (rarely if ever deals with religion), reality TV, the do-something-outrageous-and-get-your-5-minutes mentality, the increasingly foul language in public space, the depraving soaps nad sitcoms -- the whole shebang as contirbuting to today's moral ambiguity, confusion and decay. The language of poltical 'dialogue' (if you can call it that) is also a prime offender. If this continues, Shariat will prevail sooner than anyone thinks!

Life / Blasphemy not OK in Poland! [54]

Rising above the Nergal case, too many people fail to see that our 'anything goes' cutlrue, our 'let-it-all-hang-out' culture, our '5-minutes of fame' culture is among the main reason for the morall rot which may cause the West to succumnb to Muslim fanaticism and take-over perhaps sooner than anyone thinks. If you doubt it, try following the spread of their outposts acorss the globe - the Phillipines, Latin America, Scandinavia, North America, continental Europe, you name it.

The sick permissive, hypercommercial, popculture-fuelled society tells people 'it's OK to be this or that or do this or that', regardless of whether it is sensible, advisable, rational, decent, valuable or individually or socially harmful. Legions of the gullible swept along by every passing fad lap it all up and throw common sense, decency, restraint and decorum to the wind.

Not religion but popculture is the opium of today's masses.

Life / Blasphemy not OK in Poland! [54]

Desecrating national flags in public is an offence in the US and other countries. But isn't that ridiculous? It's only a rag, innit? Threatening a public official is also punishable, but thems only words, ain't they?

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

The root of the name is inceed malina (raspberry), but perhqps 95% or more of all Polish surnames with the adjectival '-owski' ending are of toponymic origin, hence traceable to localtieis named Malinowo, Malinówka and similar. (Raspberryville is rather mroe unwieldy than Malinowo BTW.)

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

GIERBLIŃSKI - MASIASZ

GIERBLIŃSKI: rather obscure, but possibly a Polish adaptation of the Bavarian (German) name Gerblinger or Gerbling – most likely a toponymic tag derived from the Bavarian localites of Gerblinghaus or Gerblingrode.

MASIASZ: Possibly a toponymic tag for someone from Masów; or maybe it was a misspelling of Masiarz (masarz) – butcher.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

FEDOR and similar forms (Fiodor, Feodor, Fidor,Fedir, etc. ) were all derived from the originally Greek name Theodoros meaning 'gift of God'. The 'f' forms indicates they came to Poland via the Ruthenian tongues of the Slavonic east where theh Greek letter '' (th) was pronounced like an 'f'.

History / What do Poles owe to Hungarians? [233]

There's another Hungarian food shop in Gen. Zajączka street near Carrefour.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


i would even beef up that statement to read 'nearly all go-with-the-flow-types'... Beacuse a go-wtih-the-flow type is the opposite of a thinking, conscious human being. He will go along with most everything that is trendy, cutting edge or which most other people think, buy or do.

Since most everything in life is possible, it is not impossible for someone outside the Judaeo-Christian or Buddhist fold to do good for its own sake, but it's a hell of a lot harder and far less common.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

That's why it takes courage and determination to be a Catholic consistenty defending the Magisterium of the Church.
Conventional garden-variety wisdom, supported by today's PC ideology, takes a purely biological view of man, hence panders to his baser instncts, egoism, pursuit of comfort, convenience and pleasure here and now. And the majority of go-with-the-flow types eagerly swallow all that is nice, easy, pleasurable and fun - hook, line and sinker. It is far more difficult to win people over to higher values such as a sense of sacrifice, altruism and the common good.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

That's a really tough question. Probably the automatic human reflex would be to save that which is known and loved. However, I merely indicated what the official Magisterium is. I hope I am never faced with that dilemma!

Under Polish law, abortions are legal in the following cases:
1. rape
2. incest
3. seriously damaged foetus
4. Threat to woman's life.

The recent Sejm vote has sent to committee a draft to eliminate point 3. It is unlikely ever to become law. Even good Catholics support the current compromise abortion law.

Education and stiffer penalties might decrease rape - such as mandatory castration after one rape conviction. Also a ban on free Internet prn would help. If everything has to be paid for, púrn consumption would decrease considerably. Don't say it's technically infeasible -- where there's a will there' s way.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

Somehow this enquirer got overlooked; since nobody saw fit to answer him, here goes:

SZCZĘŚNIAK/SZCZEŚNIAK: - patronymic from (first name) Szczęsny (Felix) , hence Felix's son.
KRAJNIK: – root-word kraj which can mean country or end; possibly an alternative form of krajan (countryman, someone hailing from the same region)
MITKE: possible roots – mitki (archaic dialectal for soft, modern Polish = miękki); or from Mitek, Mitka, Mitko – hypocoristic forms of Dymitr; Mitke spelling suggests Germanised/de-Slavicised version of Mitka.

SZEMBORSKI: alternative spelling of Szymborski, topoynymic tag from Szmybory.
TYBURSKI: looks like a patronymic nick from the old first name Tyburcy (originally Roman Tibertius); could have come to Poland via Hungary where the name Tibor is used.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


When there's a medical problem during childbirth and only one or the other can be saved, the so-called 'modern' secularist view is to save the woman. Catholic teaching holds that newborn should be saved. Why?

Because the woman has already experienced life for better or worse. She has had stories read to her, cuddled a teddy bear, watched butterflies and puppy dogs, seen Father Christmas, got her first doll, started school, learnt to ride a bike, been taken on holiday and obviously gone on her first date...

All those things still await the newborn.

Language / Busha and JaJa [140]

Never heard of retro? The popcommecialists every so often also ressurrect dances, concerts, happenings, etc. based on the roaring 20s, 30s, 50s, 70s, even 90s.

History / Battle of Vienna - history movie about Poland / Commemoration [36]

Haven't seen it yet, but I gather from soem reviews that it is obivous the film was not directed by a Pole or based on a Polish script.. Poles would have focused on Sobieski and his triumphant victoria, while this version shows things through to eyes of an Italian monk. Too bad Poland can't afford to make more of its own historical blockbusters. Even if tecnically and budgetwise they're not on par with Spielberg stuff, at least they project a Polish viewpoint.

Language / Busha and JaJa [140]

Busia not onyl means granny in the American Polonia, it has been elevated to the rtankl of a symbol of the good old days of one's Polonian childhood, the simpler, gentler times of comfort foods and the quaintl Old World ambience of which babcia was usually the heart and soul. This notice is an example of that secondary, symoblic meaning of busia:

MADONNA UNIVERSITY HOLDS POLISH NIGHT
LIVONIA: There was festive Polish music and the family style Polish dinner brought forth fond memories of traditions imprinted from Busia. The decorations, entertainment and extra little touches such as featuring Tyskie Polish piwa had everyone enjoying the festivities at Madonna University’s “Be Polish for a Night.”

Nearly always when two languages or cultures come into contact, all kinds of hybrids may emerge. A case in point is Franglais just north of the border. Here is a typical exchange:

Gina: Ah mon amie, veux-tu un beer?
Moi: Non merci, je suis le stuffed. As-tu regardé le episode de Newport Beach hier?!
Gina: Mais bien sûr! Ben McKenzie est un hunk hein?
Moi: Je pense que obviously.

Why Gina did not say bière is beyond me. Maybe just trying to be cute?
Other than imbedding English words as above, it is even more common to Gallicise English roots as in:
crasser (instead of traverser) la rue (cross the road). That formation is similar to the Polonian drajwować karę, pejntowsć giejtę, klinować szusy, etc.

Language / Busha and JaJa [140]

I think Harry effectively has admitted somewhere down the line, a bit between the lines but in a clearly legible manner, that he is only having fun on PF, hence his provocative digressions and tendency to evade the issue. He knows that tactic drives some people up the wall, and that's precisely what he's after. He is not interested in any thoughtful discussion or exchange of ideas.

Language / Busha and JaJa [140]

Boletus - you are by far the most knowledgeable re things linguisitc.
How would you label or categorise such terms widely used in Polonia. as dziadzia (also spelt jaja), busia, babci, baci, cioci? How about 'kara na kornerze stryty' and 'klinować flory w ofisie'?

Émigré dialect, subdialect, ethnic jargon, argot or something else?
When Afros in the US say axe instead of ask, what would that be? Or 'I goes', 'he like' (inverting the 1st and 3rd person singular present tense endings)?

What about Anglo-American-influenced Franglais in Canada?

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Too many women have peanut-butter legs. Easy to spread! And then they go cry-babying and whining about their horrible fate.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Terms such as equality, justice, fairness or balance are just empty words in any country where abortions can be performed without the express written consent of the father. It's his unborn baby just as much as it is the mother's!

Language / Busha and JaJa [140]

The largest Polish concentration in Ohio is of course Cleveland and such nearby communities as Parma and Garfield Heigths. Polonians are also found in Toledo, Akron, Dayton and other localities.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Should abortions be allowed in any country without the father's consent? It is as much his kid as hers!

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


But late partial-birth abortions are. Here is the medical description:
Partial birth abortion, medically known as intact dilation and extraction (IDX), is a method of late-term abortion that ends a pregnancy and results in the death and intact removal of a fetus from the uterus. In the United States, as of late 2008 the procedure was illegal.

Genealogy / How did Leszek Miller get the surname Miller - is it a Polish name? [30]

The original German name was Müller and some 1,800 people in Poland use that original spelling. Most have phonetically respelt it to Miller (6,000) or Miler (4,000). So the name was originally German but after centuries of Polonisation most of them probably have few drops of German blood left in them.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

Yes, do tell Harry to stop. It's always the same old libertine mumbo-jumbo: easy prn, easy sex, easy condoms, easy abortions, easy infidelity, easy divorce, easy deviation, anything goes, let it all hang out, you only live once, bla-bla-bla...

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

And then they could be sold on the human-organs market. Maybe an even better solution is to deliver the chiild after the full 9 months and then murder it, taking care not to damage any of the potnetially marketable organs.