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jon357   
16 Feb 2021
Work / Working as a PL-EN translator - good idea? Sworn translators in Poland. [27]

The.problem

Still, it's gold dust sometimes for those who can do it. It avoids having to use native proof readers to rewrite everything the Polish translator has done, and if it's a literary or academic translation, the publishers always want an idiomatic and nuanced knowledge of both languages, especially in the target language.

As an accredited translator,

The sworn translators; exam isn't as easy here as it used to be. Nevertheless, I know one Brit (without family connections to Poland) who's done it..
jon357   
16 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

Jews admire Mickiewicz if they teach literature, Szopen aka Chopin if they love music, and Wójtyla et al.if they love life:-)

Of course, however when there's oddballs with an axe to grind, loving life doesn't come into it.

Some of the finest interpreters of Chopin are/were Jewish. The great Polish pianist Artur Rubinstein among them.

And when 'nationalists' try to distort the past in order to create a particular mythos, they only ever end up hurting their own cause.
jon357   
16 Feb 2021
UK, Ireland / Can anyone recommend private transport/courier for deliveries from UK to Poland? [25]

courier a package of table tops from Warsaw to London

You're better looking on one of the facebook groups for expats and/or British people in Warsaw. There are people there sending consignments of different sizes back and to all the time and people asking similar questions (and getting quick answers).
jon357   
16 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

a whole new version of Polish history that they are the guardians of

Basically, a Potemkin village.

The more 'official', the less credible. It's an insult to the people who lived at that time.

around in the PRL, why on earth would he support any kind of censorship?

A Nomenklatura mindset.
jon357   
16 Feb 2021
Work / Working as a PL-EN translator - good idea? Sworn translators in Poland. [27]

company called forum.eu

I haven't heard of this company; I'll have a look at them.

Some translation work involves bidding for it on platforms. They usually choose the quickest and/or cheapest.

translate.three.full.articles from gazeta wyborcza and i did not even have a subscription and you have to have a paid subscription to read entire articles.

This does sound like either a scam or just shoddy business practice. Perhaps it's the quality and speed they want to test. They'd probably compare the articles to an existing translation which may well not be much good anyway.

Do you have a portfolio? It might be worth working up some samples and knock on some agency doors

This is good advice.
jon357   
16 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

that's exactly what the PRL did to people.

One reason that PiS is called PRL-bis.

The problem is that if they try to obfuscate or flat out deny the bad things, people cease to believe in the good things.
jon357   
16 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

censorship

Censorship is an important issue.

Those who disagree should censor their words

That sounds very much like you favour intimidating people with views different from your own.

Generalization about Poles and Poland is Ok

The whole point about academic study is to avoid generalisation.
jon357   
16 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

and that dude is a 100% proven liar

Who? The female eyewitness?

Let them sell it

Good you approve of academic freedom and disapprove of using the courts to censor historians.

The Jews

It didn't take you long.
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

that a huge number of Poles gave up their lives and often their families lives, to save Jews.

This should be praised in and cherished as an example of human goodness.

Using the courts to attempt to suppress evidence of the exact opposite behaviour however just makes people wonder what's true and what isn't and call into question what they've heard from reliable sources. It's an insult to those people who did risk (in some cases lose) their and their families life to save other humans to try to obfuscate events during that period and the full horror of the times in which they had to live.

Is Poland robust enough as a country to be transparent about the past or not?
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

Faction vs faction

There's always been the "wojna Polsko Polska", for centuries, with most people not extreme but tending to one side.

Personally I prefer the Poland of Pilsudski, Korczak, Holland, Gross, Gombrowicz, Narutowicz and Tuwim to the Poland of Dmowski, Bubel, Rydzyk, Miedlar and Korwin-Mikke.

Extremist views growing

This makes it all the more important to be objective, transparent and to not give the impression of trying to manipulate the historical narrative. Truth and only truth wins in the end.
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

with the polarization in the U.S it's quite difficoult

It's always been like that.

Poland has very few allies abroad

And even fewer enemies.
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

Which is why it should be discussed internally,

part of the issue is that it never was discussed internally. And now an attempt to stifle historians has gone worldwide. Anyone reading the articles about the affair in any one of the 50 countries in which it's been reported now think that Poland is trying to hide things.

Much better to be objective and transparent from the get go, and situations like this (it isn't the first and probably won't be the last) won't arise.
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

Poland got nothing to hide,

Nothing at all. Although as we see in this thread, there are those who would hide things that don't need to be hidden and shouldn't be hidden.
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

darker past

There's plenty of dark things in any country that has been occupied by a brutal and savage oppressor.

The man who collaborated with the Nazis in Malinowo for example, the one with exactly the same name as the man who saved Jews (that the lawsuit referred to in this thread is about) is a good example.

The behaviour of one doesn't cancel or balance out the behaviour of the other. Life doesn't work like that.. However both stories are part of the same past. If part of the past is downplayed at any given time, it will stand out all the more later.
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

Politically there is a lot of catching up,

This much is true.

Poland has nothing to hide; it's much better to acknowledge the darker things in the past rather than obfuscate or attempt to censor mentions of them. Being open makes people more understanding of the suffering and appreciative of the good things.
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

Which is why our watch is everlasting

So help us God

Over the past 250 years, how well would you say that's gone?
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

mmature kids

"Immature kids" aside, historians will always want to uncover something hidden, and as long as something's perceived as having been buried or suppressed, the books will sell all the better.
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
USA, Canada / American wanting to move to Poland from USA - how hard is it? [40]

NIP is just a tax identifier.

not to mention us companies wont work with you at all here unless its like chinese or indian wages.

Those are the ones to avoid like the plague.

A lot of work (from the US and Europe) is outsourced to India and SE Asia now since they'll work for peanuts. I don't see that changing.
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

Can hardly be challenged in Poland

Poland has always had that uneasy balance between absolutism and relativism. A narrative of martyrdom can exist together with an acknowledgement that bad things happened too, that some people did bad things.

Which is why it needs to be discussed internally first,

Yes. And unfortunately attempts to stifle discussion, lawsuits etc don't advance any discussion internally while at the same time bringing issues to a wider and very objective audience.
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

t hasn't been solved internally but been heavily pushed internationally.

One does lead to the other.

Instead of having an historical debate

Where censorship (or perceived censorship) exists with the goal of preserving a national image, historical debate is inevitably compromised, not least due to few if any objective observers believing a compromised narrative.
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
History / Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression? [447]

which could been readable

They're very readable and sold well. The controversy only increased worldwide sales.

It is a pity they are dragging Poland down the mud

The alternative is to censor (or self-censor) now, have nobody believe the narrative (and be sceptical of the good things too) then watch it all explode later.
jon357   
15 Feb 2021
Life / UFOs in Poland [57]

The Kielce one is being restored now. It's an amazing building!
jon357   
14 Feb 2021
Life / UFOs in Poland [57]

in the article

Of course, it's in the article.

There have been a fair few other alleged sightings here.

Die Glocke ws of course a fascist hoax, however some of the other ones are quite entertaining to read about.
jon357   
14 Feb 2021
Life / UFOs in Poland [57]

An interesting story here:

"In May 1978, a 71-year-old peasant from the small village of Emilcin in eastern Poland began telling a story about how he met aliens and was taken onto their spacecraft. He never renounced it. "

culture.pl/en/article/the-emilcin-incident-a-polish-encounter-of-the-fourth-kind

There was also the famous story about Die Glocke, plus the theory that Gfynia is the Polish Roswell...
jon357   
14 Feb 2021
UK, Ireland / Old Polish consular passport to renew - live in the UK [3]

This thread has some info.
https://polishforums.com/uk-ireland/nearly-impossible-passport-appointment-london-86175/#msg1771702

This explains the documents you will need, how to arrange an appointment, how to collect the passport and what to do if you don't have all the documents they want: gov.pl/web/wielkabrytania/paszport-dla-osoby-doroslej

This is where you apply online:
secure.e-konsulat.gov.pl/Wizyty/Paszportowe/RejestracjaTerminuWizytyPaszportowej.aspx?guid=0e9b2958ac5d489da805cbc76a925f01
jon357   
14 Feb 2021
Food / British food products in Poland? [334]

Now that's an interesting idea.

Historically, one type of pastry was. Hot water pastry was for preserving meat. It's still delicious though.

Dealz is now cutting back on the British products because of Brexit

JasonDMZ who used to post here was saying the same. He'd apparently spoken to someone at Dealz. Things like HP can be sourced (sauced) within the EU because it's made here (as is English mustard now) however it's all the other stuff that will disappear sadly.