kaprys
23 Oct 2017
kaprys
23 Oct 2017
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
@crmondo
I wish I could help but it's mostly guessing.
The surname looks like Supka indeed. The same with Rog, Opata and Cub.
As for the question of Magdalena's citizenship or the country selection in your search, I really don't know.
I hope someone will be more helpful.
Good luck!
@crmondo
I wish I could help but it's mostly guessing.
The surname looks like Supka indeed. The same with Rog, Opata and Cub.
As for the question of Magdalena's citizenship or the country selection in your search, I really don't know.
I hope someone will be more helpful.
Good luck!
kaprys
22 Oct 2017
News / Poland supporting potential new EU members - Georgia and Turkey [32]
@Dirk diggler
Learn what? How to be manipulative? Or should I look for stronger adjectives?
With such a mentality of admiration for strong figures in power, you're likely to fall under totalitarian rule. Lots of people have. Think of millions who followed Hitler or Stalin.
And no, sure I haven't heard the saying. Tell me about it ;)
@Dirk diggler
Learn what? How to be manipulative? Or should I look for stronger adjectives?
With such a mentality of admiration for strong figures in power, you're likely to fall under totalitarian rule. Lots of people have. Think of millions who followed Hitler or Stalin.
And no, sure I haven't heard the saying. Tell me about it ;)
kaprys
22 Oct 2017
Genealogy / Polish looks? - part 2 [71]
I don't see any photo here so hard to say. Poles differ in terms of height, weight and eye or hair colour. I don't even know if you're male or female. Your height would be more common among men here.
As for your parents' surnames, Kozak is actually far more common than Lasz and doesn't actually mean you're if Cossack origin.
I don't see any photo here so hard to say. Poles differ in terms of height, weight and eye or hair colour. I don't even know if you're male or female. Your height would be more common among men here.
As for your parents' surnames, Kozak is actually far more common than Lasz and doesn't actually mean you're if Cossack origin.
kaprys
21 Oct 2017
News / Poland supporting potential new EU members - Georgia and Turkey [32]
@G (undercover)
Yeah, after all there are kebab shops and holidays in Turkey.
@G (undercover)
Yeah, after all there are kebab shops and holidays in Turkey.
kaprys
20 Oct 2017
News / Poland supporting potential new EU members - Georgia and Turkey [32]
In what way could Turkey help us ? Assuming 'us' is Poland (is it? )
I doubt Poles 'generally have no problems with Kurds and Turks'. If they 'have a problem' (euphism) with Muslims, they don't care if they're Turkish or not.
Your awe of Putin and Erdogan is quite disturbing to be honest . O_o
In what way could Turkey help us ? Assuming 'us' is Poland (is it? )
I doubt Poles 'generally have no problems with Kurds and Turks'. If they 'have a problem' (euphism) with Muslims, they don't care if they're Turkish or not.
Your awe of Putin and Erdogan is quite disturbing to be honest . O_o
kaprys
20 Oct 2017
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
Czub is more possible to have been misspelled as Cub as in Agata Cub. But that's a wild guess.
Have you got any photos of the original records we could look at?
Czub is more possible to have been misspelled as Cub as in Agata Cub. But that's a wild guess.
Have you got any photos of the original records we could look at?
kaprys
20 Oct 2017
Language / Busha and JaJa [140]
'Dziadzia' is actually used quite often here :)
However, mostly with very young children.
'Dziadzia' is actually used quite often here :)
However, mostly with very young children.
kaprys
20 Oct 2017
News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]
There are a lot of people here who want the welfare state.
500+ is a bonus for most families and people appreciate it but there are lots of people who already get money from mops and 500+ and don't give a dam about working. And it's scary as some of them have a serious drinking problem.
There are a lot of people here who want the welfare state.
500+ is a bonus for most families and people appreciate it but there are lots of people who already get money from mops and 500+ and don't give a dam about working. And it's scary as some of them have a serious drinking problem.
kaprys
20 Oct 2017
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
@Gość1952
It's more possible for a nickname than the name of a parasite to have become a surname. Not sure when the parasites were called węgorek and if local populations were aware of the existance of such parasites to give somebody such a nickname. Eels are known, traded and eaten Poland for centuries.
Unfortunatelly, I have no idea how abundant in eels were in Wielkopolska when Węgorek was first used as a surname.
@Gość1952
It's more possible for a nickname than the name of a parasite to have become a surname. Not sure when the parasites were called węgorek and if local populations were aware of the existance of such parasites to give somebody such a nickname. Eels are known, traded and eaten Poland for centuries.
Unfortunatelly, I have no idea how abundant in eels were in Wielkopolska when Węgorek was first used as a surname.
kaprys
19 Oct 2017
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
@DominicB
I quoted moikrewni.pl several times here. Again not sure how reliable the information there is. I have a friend whose dad is not Polish. So is her last name. Still she was born here. She went to school, studied here and works here. Her surname doesn't appear in the search. So we can be as sure of the information there as we're sure of what stankiewicze.pl says.
@DominicB
I quoted moikrewni.pl several times here. Again not sure how reliable the information there is. I have a friend whose dad is not Polish. So is her last name. Still she was born here. She went to school, studied here and works here. Her surname doesn't appear in the search. So we can be as sure of the information there as we're sure of what stankiewicze.pl says.
kaprys
19 Oct 2017
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
Ok, I checked Lubasz - definitely under the Prussian partition. Still the variations of the spellings are incredible.
As for the changes in the original names - I wouldn't be so sure.
But then again, I'm just a laywoman trying to help.
Ok, I checked Lubasz - definitely under the Prussian partition. Still the variations of the spellings are incredible.
As for the changes in the original names - I wouldn't be so sure.
But then again, I'm just a laywoman trying to help.
kaprys
19 Oct 2017
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
@DominicB
But Tąbor and Tombor would be pronounced pretty much the same and the op first wrote the name Tombor. As for Tąbor derived from Tabor, I found this explanation at stankiewicze.pl - perhaps some sort of vowel shift or misspelling - who knows.
@crmondo
Opata is also used as a surname - derived either from a regional variant of łopata-shovel or opat-abbot.
I have to say that the variations of spellings of your family's surnames are quite impressing - no wonder you have trouble finding records. As for first names, Joseph - Józef, Peter - Piotr, John - Jan, Michael - Michał and Mary - Marianna or Marjanna (old-fashioned) - the English version is Maryann. Marganna doesn't make sense. But since Marianna/Marjanna was spelled Marganna, perhaps it was Roj/Rój not Rog/Róg. Someone might have had a problem with telling the difference between j and g - just guessing ...
I don't know ... perhaps the names were originally written in the cyrillic and then someone made a mistake translating them into the Latin alphabet?
@DominicB
But Tąbor and Tombor would be pronounced pretty much the same and the op first wrote the name Tombor. As for Tąbor derived from Tabor, I found this explanation at stankiewicze.pl - perhaps some sort of vowel shift or misspelling - who knows.
@crmondo
Opata is also used as a surname - derived either from a regional variant of łopata-shovel or opat-abbot.
I have to say that the variations of spellings of your family's surnames are quite impressing - no wonder you have trouble finding records. As for first names, Joseph - Józef, Peter - Piotr, John - Jan, Michael - Michał and Mary - Marianna or Marjanna (old-fashioned) - the English version is Maryann. Marganna doesn't make sense. But since Marianna/Marjanna was spelled Marganna, perhaps it was Roj/Rój not Rog/Róg. Someone might have had a problem with telling the difference between j and g - just guessing ...
I don't know ... perhaps the names were originally written in the cyrillic and then someone made a mistake translating them into the Latin alphabet?
kaprys
19 Oct 2017
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
Róg/Rog are both used as surnames and derived from róg-horn.
Rój/Roj are derived from rój-swarm.
Łopata - shovel.
Tąbor (might have been misspelled as Tombor) probably derived from tabor - nomadic camp or Mount Tabor.
Supka might be misspelled Zupka -derived from zupa-soup or Supko also derived from zupa or customs house according to stankiewicze.pl though they don't say what language that comes from :s
Róg/Rog are both used as surnames and derived from róg-horn.
Rój/Roj are derived from rój-swarm.
Łopata - shovel.
Tąbor (might have been misspelled as Tombor) probably derived from tabor - nomadic camp or Mount Tabor.
Supka might be misspelled Zupka -derived from zupa-soup or Supko also derived from zupa or customs house according to stankiewicze.pl though they don't say what language that comes from :s
kaprys
18 Oct 2017
Language / Polish language would look better written in Cyrillic Script? [212]
@DominicB
Not to mention, they wouldn't have spent their evenings writing anything - in any of the alphabets mentioned before ;)
@DominicB
Not to mention, they wouldn't have spent their evenings writing anything - in any of the alphabets mentioned before ;)
kaprys
18 Oct 2017
News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]
@Dirk diggler
Yeah, they're such nice chaps. They even went to Katyń to pay their respects to the Polish officers killed there. And then waved their Stalin-adorned flags. Who gave orders to kill the officers?
I get it - you like bikers. But as a Pole I distrust organised groups with close relations to the Kremlin. Thank you very much.
@Dirk diggler
Yeah, they're such nice chaps. They even went to Katyń to pay their respects to the Polish officers killed there. And then waved their Stalin-adorned flags. Who gave orders to kill the officers?
I get it - you like bikers. But as a Pole I distrust organised groups with close relations to the Kremlin. Thank you very much.
kaprys
18 Oct 2017
Language / Polish language would look better written in Cyrillic Script? [212]
And Gniezno and Polanie were rather far from Moravia, ufff ;)
I keep repeating myself.
@Ziemowit
oj tam, oj tam - no mystery here ;)
And Gniezno and Polanie were rather far from Moravia, ufff ;)
I keep repeating myself.
@Ziemowit
oj tam, oj tam - no mystery here ;)
kaprys
18 Oct 2017
News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]
They rode to Berlin displaying red flags with a portrait of Stalin and shouting the Red Army's creed. And you seriously think that would have been welcomed in Poland.
It would have been both offensive and provocative. And if anything had happened, the Kremlin might have cried about anti-Russian sentiments in Poland.
They rode to Berlin displaying red flags with a portrait of Stalin and shouting the Red Army's creed. And you seriously think that would have been welcomed in Poland.
It would have been both offensive and provocative. And if anything had happened, the Kremlin might have cried about anti-Russian sentiments in Poland.
kaprys
18 Oct 2017
News / Austria's swing to the far right on Poland? [229]
Night Wolves admire Stalin. That was one of the reasons why they were refused to enter Poland. Was Stalin right winged?
Night Wolves admire Stalin. That was one of the reasons why they were refused to enter Poland. Was Stalin right winged?
kaprys
18 Oct 2017
Language / Polish language would look better written in Cyrillic Script? [212]
@Ziemowit
I never did. Read posts #129-135. Vesko claimed Poles used the cyrillic during the times of the Kingdom of Great Moravia.
@Ziemowit
I never did. Read posts #129-135. Vesko claimed Poles used the cyrillic during the times of the Kingdom of Great Moravia.
kaprys
18 Oct 2017
kaprys
18 Oct 2017
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
@mafketis
Because one 'dż' is not enough ;)
I haven't heard it used as a surname, though. It's probably derived from the old form of deszcz-deżdż.
As for Węgorek, we may just guess and it might have been used for someone fishing, trading or smoking eels as you suggested.
@mafketis
Because one 'dż' is not enough ;)
I haven't heard it used as a surname, though. It's probably derived from the old form of deszcz-deżdż.
As for Węgorek, we may just guess and it might have been used for someone fishing, trading or smoking eels as you suggested.
kaprys
18 Oct 2017
Work / Is Poland's ZUS obligatory for a one man LLC? [13]
For the first year you pay the preferrencial contribution - 487,90 in 2017, then the full contribution. In 2017 it's almost 1200 zł per month.
For the first year you pay the preferrencial contribution - 487,90 in 2017, then the full contribution. In 2017 it's almost 1200 zł per month.
kaprys
18 Oct 2017
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
@Gość1952
1) Because Węgorek sounds like wegorz, not like robak or glista - both are used as surnames, interestingly enough. There are dozens of Polish surnames that come from names of animals like Kot (cat), Kura (hen) or Lis (fox).
2) Surnames are centuries old - it's really hard to state what the origin of a given name is. As for the common folk they may come from names of places like Tarnowski, from professions like Kowal, Kowalczyk, Kowalik (blacksmith), from nicknames coming from body parts like Noga (leg), Oko (eye) or characteristics like Chudzik (from chudy-thin) etc. Some are polonised versions of foreign names, some are misspelled or regional versions of common words. The list goes on.
@Gość1952
1) Because Węgorek sounds like wegorz, not like robak or glista - both are used as surnames, interestingly enough. There are dozens of Polish surnames that come from names of animals like Kot (cat), Kura (hen) or Lis (fox).
2) Surnames are centuries old - it's really hard to state what the origin of a given name is. As for the common folk they may come from names of places like Tarnowski, from professions like Kowal, Kowalczyk, Kowalik (blacksmith), from nicknames coming from body parts like Noga (leg), Oko (eye) or characteristics like Chudzik (from chudy-thin) etc. Some are polonised versions of foreign names, some are misspelled or regional versions of common words. The list goes on.
kaprys
17 Oct 2017
Language / Polish language would look better written in Cyrillic Script? [212]
@gumishu
Agreed. He can't have known. It's part of our history and identity now. In fact, it helped Christianisation of Poland and reinforced our national identity, too - at least in my opinion.
@gumishu
Agreed. He can't have known. It's part of our history and identity now. In fact, it helped Christianisation of Poland and reinforced our national identity, too - at least in my opinion.
kaprys
17 Oct 2017
Language / Polish language would look better written in Cyrillic Script? [212]
@gumishu
St Wojciech was killed in the 10th century. The Teutonic Knights were invited in the 13th century and as far as I know their 'christianisation' was far from peaceful. They did attack Greater Poland, too.
@gumishu
St Wojciech was killed in the 10th century. The Teutonic Knights were invited in the 13th century and as far as I know their 'christianisation' was far from peaceful. They did attack Greater Poland, too.
kaprys
17 Oct 2017
Language / Polish language would look better written in Cyrillic Script? [212]
@gumishu
I know well how it ended. Still there were enough pagans there to claim that. And there are remains of pagan rites and beliefs in Polish Christianity, customs and language - do licha ;)
@gumishu
I know well how it ended. Still there were enough pagans there to claim that. And there are remains of pagan rites and beliefs in Polish Christianity, customs and language - do licha ;)
kaprys
17 Oct 2017
Language / Polish language would look better written in Cyrillic Script? [212]
@Ziemowit
That's why I wrote 'probably'. Still Gniezno, inhabited by a tribe called Polanie or not, was not part of the Kingdom of Great Moravia.
Plus I'm kind of emotionally attached to the idea - that's what they taught us at school :p
As for Mieszko and Dobrawa, let's face it. Marriages served the country's politics back then (and even centuries later) so I doubt he adopted Christianity to marry her.
When it comes to Christianisation of Poland, well in 1226 Konrad Mazowiecki thought it stull was a good idea to invite the Teutonic Knights to spread Christianity here. In 1410 they still thought the locals were pagan. In the 2010s Noc Kupaly is getting more and more popular and the reason people don't 'drown' Marzanna any more or not that often is the ecology rather than abandoning pagan rites ;)
Actually it's interesting how Polish Christianity adapted quite a few Slavic customs. Adopting Christianity was definitely a process but one thing is certain - it has always been mainly Rome centred and that's influenced the alphabet.
@Ziemowit
That's why I wrote 'probably'. Still Gniezno, inhabited by a tribe called Polanie or not, was not part of the Kingdom of Great Moravia.
Plus I'm kind of emotionally attached to the idea - that's what they taught us at school :p
As for Mieszko and Dobrawa, let's face it. Marriages served the country's politics back then (and even centuries later) so I doubt he adopted Christianity to marry her.
When it comes to Christianisation of Poland, well in 1226 Konrad Mazowiecki thought it stull was a good idea to invite the Teutonic Knights to spread Christianity here. In 1410 they still thought the locals were pagan. In the 2010s Noc Kupaly is getting more and more popular and the reason people don't 'drown' Marzanna any more or not that often is the ecology rather than abandoning pagan rites ;)
Actually it's interesting how Polish Christianity adapted quite a few Slavic customs. Adopting Christianity was definitely a process but one thing is certain - it has always been mainly Rome centred and that's influenced the alphabet.
kaprys
17 Oct 2017
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
@Gość1952
Wegorek is probably derived from wegorz -eel.
@Gość1952
Wegorek is probably derived from wegorz -eel.
kaprys
16 Oct 2017
Language / Polish language would look better written in Cyrillic Script? [212]
pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Awi%C4%99ta_Ewangelia
The first translation of the gospel into Polish from Church Slavonic was in 2014. They also keep to the Julian calendar unlike Catholics.
When we celebrate Epiphany they celebrate Christmas.
pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Awi%C4%99ta_Ewangelia
The first translation of the gospel into Polish from Church Slavonic was in 2014. They also keep to the Julian calendar unlike Catholics.
When we celebrate Epiphany they celebrate Christmas.